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bokuda
eh?! Wha~aaT?!
Shubhansh Agrawal
400!!! Next are we heading towards the 4 digit mark?
Really wanted to go out during the Obon holidays, but now doing so is like playing with fire...
Can someone recommend some good ways of enjoying the leisure time at home?
Monty
Hey Guys...
400 cases among a population of 14.000.000 in Tokyo is 0.0028%
Let us say the reported number is wrong and it is 10x higher. So 4000 cases.
4000 cases among a population of 14.000.000 is 0.028%
Let us say this number is also wrong and it is 100x higher. So 40000 cases.
40000 cases among a population of 14.000.000 is 0.28%
Even it would be 40000 cases, it is lower than 0.5%.
And that after 8 months pandemic.
Everyine can decide by themselves to go into a panic or not.
Me, by myself, will continue like I do since 8 months, do my best personal prevention and live my life.
wtfjapan
Me, by myself, will continue like I do since 8 months, do my best personal prevention and live my life.
or become asymptomatic bring it home and infect the rest of your family, so many so blase until they become infected or a family member becomes infected.
nandakandamanda
If you look at the breakdown of cluster locations, they are mostly places where people remove their face masks, to eat drink, sing, shout, when under closer human spacing conditions.
Karaoke joints, night entertainment spots, restaurants, families at home, etc.
shogun36
Don't worry everyone.
We still have our "cool biz" and "go to" campaigns happening.
What are we concerned about?
iraira
Monty,
You are looking at numbers on one day.....Expand those cases over three or four weeks and you exceed the number of hospital beds In Tokyo available not just for severe Covid cases, but also for people suffering from other diseases or trauma.
Monty
@Wtfjapan
Please give a suggestion! What should I do according to you?
Quit my job?
My wife also quits her job?
My son stops going to school?
We lock down ourselves at home for the next 2 months, and then we can sleep in the park and eat garbage because we have no money for rent and food?
Like I said before. If you do your basic personal prevention, washing hands, wear mask, use sanitizer and keep social distance as much as possible, the risk that you get infected is almost zero!
And me, my family and everyone around us are doing these prevention since 8 months.
Monty
@iraira
Do you read and understand my post.
I count with 40000 cases. Probably we have in 3 weeks. But even with 40000 cases we are just 0.28%.
I agree with nandakandamanda, most clusters are, where people dont wear a mask!
vanityofvanities
Positive rates are increasing everyday while death rates getting lower and lower. What does this mean?
Monty
@Tom Doley
I dont understand what you are talking about!
iraira
Monty
My point is keeping the numbers down so as not not saturate the hospitals. The number of patients the hospitals can take care of is difficult to increase. The numbers of infected, the true rate of spread, and most importantly, the remaining portion of the population who are susceptible to severe symptoms is not able to be calculated at present. That’s the problem.Chico3
@ Monty - Here's another option. Move out of Tokyo and go south. Tokyo is overrated, over crowded, and too expensive. Japanese are nicer further south.
Monty
@chico3
I lived many years in Tokyo, then moved to country side for a few years, but now I am luckily back again since a few years in Tokyo.
I love Tokyo!
Yes, maybe you are right, south Japan is nice, but sorry I prefer Tokyo, even the Corona Numbers increase.
And I am not young anymore, so moving again is hard.
Ascissor
Mind you, it's not just your own chances.
Akula
The virus itself seems to be attenuating, hence the low death rate. The virus is slowly burning itself out. The rise in numbers is concerning but not massive given Japan's population.
Toasted Heretic
All those who say they will do as they like and/or take their chances, don't be so selfish please.
It's not all about you.
TigersTokyoDome
But. Koike announced a "special" emergency yesterday. So we're all fine. We're "special"...
It means the death rates are a lie. And we won't see the death rates for May/ June yet. The only deaths we see stats for now are up to April/ May. If a Covid-19 death causes the official death as pneumonia or respiratory failure they are probably recording them as that. Olympics 2021 and all that.
iraira
Akika.
During the winter and spring, the virus was running around in the general population, so it was hitting more people who were susceptible (Ie., older people and people with comorbidities). Therefore you saw a higher fatality rate. Those people are not outside among the general population the people who are getting the disease now (ie., a younger group of people much healthier much more likely to survive the disease) which is not indicative the general population. Therefore now you see a lower fatality rate.
if you have a peer reviewed even a non-peer reviewed article from a source such as biorxiv or medrxiv, indicating the attenuation you suggested please post a link.
iraira
Sorry....Akula....autocorrect
bass4funk
Not again.....sigh....
Toasted Heretic
Maybe now you'll wear that mask.
kohakuebisu
I find this increase now with people wearing masks, using sanitizer, and doing some social distancing practices more concerning than the last time. It also seems to be happening in other countries that have previously been praised for their Covid-19 response. On the upside, the number of deaths or people seriously ill in Japan seems to be low.
Anyway, it looks like this stripped-down, less-fun existence we are having is going to continue.
Takara
ha again "some" number!
we know it's not the real number so let's keep calm on "low Mondays" and "high Thursdays, Fridays"...
"go to trouble" campaign is definitely paying off...but I think people are just getting used to life with corona that they are less careful...
(why to care?! No deaths...-being sarcastic here)
corona is going nowhere so we just have to adapt to that fact. Shouganai.
Orac
"More than 400 after the 4-day-weekend."
The four day weekend was the 23rd-26th. The incubation period for the virus is 14 days. It takes Tokyo 3 days to compile the stats for Covid 19,so these tests are for the 28th/29th, which means these positves picked up the virus so where around the week of the 14th.
Orac
But here is another number:
Mortality across the nation dropped by 3.5% in May from a year earlier, with Japan recording a total of 108,380 deaths from any cause, data released yesterday by the nation's Health Ministry showed.
So in the middle of pandemic, fewer Japanese people died.
Takara
orac
yes, it may be 14 day but symptom onset is on average 5-6 days and during those days you can just pass it to someone else.
Goodlucktoyou
Tokyo should do a two stage lockdown. People with a postcode ending in an odd number, no house arrest. Next day people with an even postcode, no house arrest. One day at work, one day at home.
moonbloom
Numbers/stats related to deaths are to be taken with a huge grain of salt as at this point everyone knows the LDP routinely manipulates all data to their advantage.
Goodlucktoyou
Fake news. It can be anywhere from 3 to 14 days about. Depends on the health of the inflicted person and environment.
the virus lifespan on objects depends on the material. Face masks contamination lasts up to about 72 hours. If you touch your mask once, you will infect all objects. Wash your hands, don’t touch door handles etc. stay safe
therougou
Before, they only tested you when you were about to die. You could have a fever for a week and still not get tested. Now they are testing more, so it is natural the rate will fall.
Boy Next Door
This is just the tip of the iceberg. If they had done more tests, the number would have skyrocketed.
SJ
"The greatest shortcoming of the human race is our inability to understand the exponential function."
--Albert Allen Bartlett
NOMINATION
Do tell us your part in the fight against this virus. Locked up in your house in a hazmat suit?
Kitchener Leslie
Disgraceful.
blahblah222
Nothing will be done before end of Jan 2021 because the Go To campaign will take priority over everything else.
Japan needs to surpass US in daily infection numbers for Suga and Nishimura to even admit there’s spread. Nishimura just went on a presser just today saying there’s no covid spead in Japan.
smithinjapan
If it were not so serious and people not suffering and dying at the government's inaction, it would be hilarious to watch them sitting on their hands and just trying to pray this away, insisting it's all okay.
TigersTokyoDome
Orac 'the middle of this pandemic' is not May deaths and you know it. Wait until August September death stats come out.
May deaths would relate to March or April positive cases so the drop means nothing. Wait until August and September death stats to see the spike in deaths (and remember to check all deaths because Covid-related will be hidden).
Ah_so
Monty - you forget a couple of factors - one is that this is for one day only. Even if this infection rate remains stable, that's 12000 a month.
The other is the imputed R number behind this. Japan had very few infections a month ago. Now it has hundreds a day. If it continues to spread at the current rate, there will be 4000 infections a day. There were 85 infections in the whole of Japan a month ago.
Not saying I have a solution, but you can't dismiss the data so easily.
HBJ
The numbers keep creeping up - but everything is fine.
Do you remember when Koike said (or was it Abe?) something along the line of ‘there’s no need for another SoE as long as we are under 150’.
Well here we are at 463 in Tokyo. Oh and @Monty - 463 doesn’t mean there are ONLY 463 cases in Tokyo. It means 463 of X tested (again, the article doesn’t put the 463 in context). How many tests were conducted in Tokyo to get 463 positives?
If 463 is 10% of the tests conducted, then your calculation (@Monty) means 1.4 million people in Tokyo are potentially infected - and walking around, taking public transport, spreading it a little bit more every day, and just about to undertake their Obon holidays...
Good luck everyone.
dan
Until there is a vaccine we will have to make the best of it without totally freaking out all the time!
rainyday
Yes you numbskull its WORSE now than it was in March and April!!
rgcivilian1
Koike also said that Tokyo could declare a state of emergency of its own if the situation worsens.
How much worse does it have to get than it already is, however I for one don't lose sight of when and where this virus made its way into Japan. Does anyone remember the first case reported and where? I have the original posted JT article.
Objective
This is a HIGH number, comparatively. Is everyone looking at the flat mortality curve at the same time? You can't just look at the infected total and make a conclusion of doom. While the cases are up it seems the treatments must be working better than they did in early spring. A "SOE" statistically wouldn't save lives since so few were lost in the 2 months after the last "SOE." It is all a risk assessment that the government is making. As a society we make these assessments every day as there is potential danger in everything. Just be prudent and live a little more cautiously.
TigersTokyoDome
rgcivilian, the first case was probably the tour group from Wuhan where the bus driver and attendant were infected. The two Japanese idiots who were flown back from Wuan and refused to quarantine (and subsequently infected their own children) are up there too. Also the origin of the Diamond Princess mass outbreak who flew back to Hong Kong from Japan.
gakinotsukai
@HBJ
Absolutely !!!
N.M.
May do this, may say that.
Stop talking and do it Koike.
yakyak
As I was saying CLOSE Tokyo for 2 weeks and figure out this mess or you will be closed for 2 years repairing the damage that is beginning to occur.
TigersTokyoDome
We'll all be fine because Koike will hold up a red board this evening saying 'emergency'. That'll do it.
Any word from Abe? How on earth does that man keep his job? Failure on the spread of Covid, failing to support small businesses with cash payouts, his wifes connection to fraudulent school land sales, promoting lawmakers who pay cash bribes, 'losing' the list of gangsters invited to the sakura viewing.
Numan
Has anyone noticed that Abe and Aso have been hiding from the public?
OssanAmerica
If necessary do it. Declare a state of emergency for Tokyo. Nobody in or out. Clamp down on the night life business. Whatever is possible under Japan's lukewarm laws. The consequence of failing to act will be much worse.
yakyak
We can not blame it on the people at this point.
The government set the foundations for this to be happening.
vanityofvanities
Fortunately, death rates are not increasing while positive rates increasing as a result of more tests. I guess in this way, the COVID-19 will gradually diminish. Choking businesses is not a good choice. Some say one third of Japanese are already contracted unknowingly and they acquired immunity. Do not get panic.
Christopher Glen
“Just wait and see what will happen during the summer vacation and Obon time!”
Your doomsayer hands must be rubbing together with glee
Jonathan Prin
Sooner or later some high rank politicians or member of Empirial family will die.
Then things will start moving (or heads will roll).
In the USA, the former Republican candidate to US presidency Cain died from Corona virus at 74 after he attended Trump's super meeting in June, without mask. Know your limits and whatever your age, you may get long-term health consequences from the virus. I believe I have some although I remain athletic, so be warned.
Christopher Glen
“If necessary do it. Declare a state of emergency for Tokyo. Nobody in or out.”
You offering to compensate people? Didn’t think so.
Christopher Glen
“Until there is a vaccine we will have to make the best of it without totally freaking out all the time!”
Precisely! A vaccine won’t magically fix it though
Velius
Guaranteed many of these are from Go To campaign non-Tokyoites swarming to/through Tokyo. GUARANTEED. Yet Tokyo pays the price. Time to move out. This is ridiculous.
Mirai Hayashi
Monty
Do you even understand what these numbers are? You talk as if 40,000 is the total number of cases of infected people in Tokyo. The reality is the number is UNKNOWN, that is why we test. But they way things are trending, the numbers are probably much higher. Also, the number of infected people is INCREASING, that is why the government is stepping up the precautions (although its arguably a moot cause unless they start enforcing more restrictions and stop protecting irresponsible night life businesses) .
Let me give you a real analogy. Let's say I have 100 jellybeans and 2 of them will kill you if you ate them...would you take a chance and eat a jellybean?....yeah, I thought so. When people go to work on crowded trains everyday with people who don't wear masks, or wear them incorrectly because they're "unconfortable", or because they refuse to to support some stupid political cause, then the are eating jellybeans.
Ichiro_WeatherForecaster
Over 400 , the breaking record.
20s-30s generations account for 70%
But most concern is that it’s spreading into other generation at the same time.
Rush hours on trains and busses are at real risk I think.terrible .... Restaurants as well.
So It’ll be better for Tokyo government to take any actions drastically
Mirai Hayashi
I agree, but the SoE in Japan was such weak sauce, that it will take a long time to get the numbers down. The government needs to grow a set, and tell the people to stay home or face some real and significant consequences for this to work. If they did this, and everyone obeyed, there is a good possibility that the coronavirus could be gone from Japan in a about a month. THEN you can have any business you want to open with impunity. THERE'S YOU'RE SOLUTION MONTY!!
RationalReader
Unfortunately the government’s initial panic convinced the lower intelligence/information segments of the population that there is a material risk to healthy under-70s. It will take them time to unlearn that.
kyronstavic
That analogy would only work if you're in a high-risk group. If you're not, that jar is going to need a lot more jellybeans in it with the two bad ones lurking inside. The facts don't support your 2% analogy for the vast majority of the population.
yoshisan88
Was it a while ago a study was done to test people in Tokyo for antibodies and only a small percentage was found to have them? Recently a study finds immunity disappears after 3 months of recovery. There is spectaculation that even there is a vaccine we need to take it regularly to remain immune.
rcch
6 to 8 weeks ? forget that ! complete shutdown and lockdown for 3 months ( at least ) ...
tooheysnew
There goes my monthly salary, again.
Does Koike or any other politician understand the knock-on effect to ordinary people ?
A one-off ¥100,000 doesn’t pay the bills !
Kitchener Leslie
“Has anyone noticed that Abe and Aso have been hiding from the public?”
And what have the “panel of experts” been up to?
Heads in sand.
kurisupisu
Like other politicians,Koike has little idea of the average Taro’s life.Having grown up in Ashiya in Hyogo which is one of the richest areas of west Japan, she then went on to be privately educated.
Driven round Tokyo in a chauffeured car, she has little idea of a crowded commute or a crowded office.
Of course, she would have no compunction about another set of restrictions being put in place...
moonbloom
Well why not wait 'till we top 500, 600, or 1000?
It's immaterial whether the majority of the spread is among younger people, eventually they will transmit to other demographics.
Kutan
And you honestly think we are not way beyond that already? Half a year in a mega-city like Tokyo with half-arsed measures, surely the infection rate must be huge. Have yet to see people dying like they did in the US/Italy however. I guess we’ll see after Obon.
i@n
There's no mystery to it. The most susceptible to the disease and most likely to die have already died.
What's left are the ones less susceptible and less likely to die.
mmwkdw
Sure, the numbers are going up, and yes, statistically speaking they represent a minuscule portion of the Total population within Tokyo... however.... when you consider that these infected persons will potentially require Hospitalization, then you have an imminent issue of Capacity - does Tokyo have enough Hospital beds at present ?
The UK Faced a similar issue, hence their rather belated construction of the Nightingale Hospitals - I haven't heard anything about Japan considering doing the same, though I did read somewhere, that Hotels were going to be used as substitute isolation wards for infected people.
Vince Black
Still irrelevantly low. And no deaths. Just more panic so the can initiate stage 2
mmwkdw
If Tokyo does go through with it's own "State of Emergency" then we may see another run on such items as Toilet paper... time to buy some ? And food prices will certainly rise higher... the floods down South have already led to higher vegetable prices.
i@n
Yes that's probably the main indicator they're looking at when considering to declare SOE.
Bed occupancy for Tokyo stands at around 52% at present
Ah_so
Rational Reader - I think people do understand. And they understand that the best way to prevent the over 70s from getting infected is if the virus is not endemic among the wider population
I try to avoid infection partly because it can be very unpleasant, there is a small probability that I might die, but mostly so that I do not infect others, directly or indirectly, who might die.
Have a think about this and join the higher intelligence segment of the population.
Ah_so
Again, this attitude seems to be, "I'm all right, so I don't need to care about catching it [or spreading it to others who might die]. It is fundamentally selfish and irresponsible.
Ah_so
A number of others point to the low death rate.
Infections do not translate into deaths for a few weeks so you need to consider the infection rate in back in early June.
On June 10 there were 50 recorded infections. Hardly surprising that the deaths today are so low.
But there in fact three recorded deaths yesterday and over a thousand infections. By mid-August we will see the number of deaths ticking up.
Japan can get by with keeping the infection rate to about 1000, but to even do this we need a lot of precautions. Once you get 50,000 infections a day like in the US, the deaths will mount very quickly.
moonbloom
People are still quoting "official" numbers and confidently basing their views on them.
It's worth repeating that it has been shown ad nauseum that the LDP manipulates data for their own ends (i.e. Abe's insistence that all was fine when he was trying to desperately hang on the possibility of staging the Olympics this summer), so any "official" numbers need to be taken with a huge grain of salt.
drlucifer
The number of testing is not massive given Japan's population and economic power.
i@n
If it's worth repeating surely it's worth showing it again, could you show it again please?
drlucifer
Thousands of Medical personel have been infected all over the world, does it mean they didn't practise what you are saying?
Mark
Just wondering?? If this Virus continues on ravaging the world next year will his name get changed to COVID-21 ??
carpslidy
I haven't changed my plans for weekend.
And by passing izakaiyas full of people on my way home most havent either.
The last s.o.e was implemented because of public demand, currently there isnt the same demand.
Monty
@Mirai Hayashi
Sorry to say that...but your comparisson with Jellybeans is completely Nonsens!
I am on my way to night shift now...good night everyone...and dont panic...it is just 0.0028%
Mark
As Usual, Always REACTIVE never PROACTIVE.
The government will sit and wait till heads start rolling by the dozens, then will blame it of the youngsters and order a state of emergency just as they did right after the Olympics cancellation.
Patrick
I don’t even bother to read these COVID-19 count articles anymore; the reader commentary is where it’s at!
Tobias J Gibson
Realistically, the debate here is purely academic, and rather repetitive. Leaving aside speculation and projections about mortality and possible ongoing medical effects (and their related costs), I think there are three broad possible scenarios going forward:
The government changes course and declares a SOE, or, more extremely, legislates changes to the constitution to permit a lockdown. Testing and tracing remains in place, but due to restrictions, cases can be properly isolated and the virus is contained and managed, possibly eliminated. This likely takes 2 - 3 months given the currently spread of the virus. The economy is severely hobbled, requiring extreme government investment post restrictions to restart the economy, however recovery is relatively fast given that consumer confidence is unimpeded by concern over the virus. Tourism resumes after 4 to 6 months with countries in similar positions (e.g NZ)
The government abandons limited testing and pursues widespread, public testing. Testing is continually increased to the point where 80% of the population can be tested with a 2 -3 month period. The virus is removed from the designated infectious disease list and those with minor infections are told to self quarantine. Hospital capacity is boosted to accommodate those with more severe symptoms. The cost to the government is astronomical. Economic activity remains depressed for 6 to 8 weeks minimum, until consumer confidence slowly begins to increase as testing is more readily available and infections are visible controlled and isolated. Tourism resume after 6 to 9 months with countries in similar positions (e.g. S.Korea)
The government continues to pursue its current half baked strategy, and the virus naturally attenuates, reaches a point.of herd immunity, or a viable vaccine is developed and distributed. Timeframe is around 6-8 months minimum, if ever for any of those outcomes. The economy bottoms out due to decreasing consumer confidence, impact on trade and tourism, and the necessity of the public taking its own measures to avoid infection. By far the most costly, both in terms in public health and the economy.n1k1
I think it is more like there are 100 jellybeans and 100 people of various ages 10 of the jelly beans will kill if you are 65+ . Will you have one to make some money this month or skip and fall back on your pension.
n1k1
Agree. The only way to solve this problem is to let the young ones start building the herd immunity during these few warm months.
Quite honestly after reading more about various vaccines and their mechanisms I now have doubts they will 100% work for the elderly. There are many uncertain areas and in many aspects the results will depend on your current health condition.
i@n
If I use Monty's numbers, out of 14,000,000 jellybeans, 40,000 will make you sick. And out of the 40,000 jellybeans that will make you sick, 800 will kill you
Kitchener Leslie
Aside from the United States, Japan has handled this crisis worse than any country on the planet.
drlucifer
The Japanese won't like to hear this.
Luddite
My sister in law and her husband are travelling from a Tokyo suburb to spend Obon at her mother’s house. My mother-in-law is old, has underlying health problems and is vulnerable. We look after her and are making sure she is shielding. Today my husband called his sister to try to and convince her it wouldn’t be a good idea to stay with their mother. SIL got offended and doesn’t see a problem. They are coming, we won’t be there when they are, if we get the virus we won’t be able to care for MIL. There needs to be a local lockdown in Tokyo.
jeancolmar
If the drinking establishments are the problem let Tokyo city and prefecture give the owners and workers enough money and tax wavers to let them stop operating and working for as long as it takes to kill the pandemic. This would be infinitely more cost-effective and anti-pandemic than what is going on now.
El Rata
Stronger request duly noted, thanks.
carpslidy
At least everyone now knows the s.o.e was a complete waste of time.
Tokyo can declare all it wants but it doesnt have the money. It's used 90% of its surplus already.
Thus any further s.o.e will be an even bigger waste of time.
In hindsight a longer s.o.e or no s.o.e may have been better.
As France announced yesterday and as the Japanese government is indirectly saying by not doing anything another s.o.e would be catastrophic.
didou
Every year, 3 to 7 millions do catch the flu in Japan in less than 6 months. We are far from that figures. For sure with no measures it would be much worse for the covid here. But the constant media attention does only increase the fear. For a small country, the figures would be very high. For Japan, no.
@ Luddite
Risk is not zero but statistically, there is more than 99.xxxx % chance your family does not have the virus.
Freshwind
I will do my best to wear a mask and take as many measures as possible to decrease the risk of catching/spreading the virus. However I refuse to be locked up inside my house as if it were a cage.
If I want to buy ice cream from 7-11 or do some groceries outside I will. Sue me.
NOMINATION
@Freshwind
And the same people who are telling us how to live our lives are outside living theirs.
Luddite
@didou My MIL is shielding. That means she is keeping away from other people as she is at high risk of death if she gets the virus. Idiots travelling from Tokyo on a train to visit are putting her at risk. Carriers are often asymptomatic, how dare you presume that anyone in the family won’t have the virus or pass it on. How dare you.
Strangerland
Only those who aren't intelligent enough to compare Japan's rates with America's.
Only if one weren't intelligent enough to look at countries who are successfully dealing with the virus.
Masayuki Sugaya
I, as one of the Japanese, am really ashamed of how incompetent the Japanese government is. I guess Japan will record larger cases.
Masayuki Sugaya
Sad fact
Dennis711
I think that Japan should try to flatten the curve on the rate of infections soon. It's now August and that means we are 2 months away from the start of the influenza and the norovirus season in Japan. When we have Covid-19, influenza, and the norovirus it will strain the hospitals and medical staff to its limits. We all need to remember that hospitals and medical clinics have to treat many patients for a wide range of minor problems that can become major problems if not treated in a timely manner. And the if the population is getting influenza and norovirus their immune systems will not be able to cope with covid-19 and who knows how it will affect those people. Bad things are coming if we don't get a handle on this covid-19 problem.
About the infections in the entertainment districts, anyone could have see that coming. But we need to remember that these people take the train and ride buses. How many people could be infected just because a group of friends wanted to go out and drink? So it's not just the entertainment districts we need to worry about.
I have seen more and more people not wearing masks recently. We need to remember that the masks do nothing for the person wearing the mask, it helps the people around them. These plastic face shields worn without a mask are a joke as well. The virus is airborne so the face shield is most likely less effective than covering you mouth when you cough.
Well this post is here to give you some food for thought.
Maria 'Bing' Velasquez Reid
If bars are the problem, set up tables 6 feet apart OUTSIDE and might as well serve food. While it is summer, serve outside like NYC.
Redtail Swift
First, we need to stop blaming the nightclubs. The government is trying to scapegoat them. I understand they are non-essential, but they are not the cause of the increase in numbers. Commonsense should tell you that JR and it's arteries of train lines are ground zero for the transmission of this virus. A fully packed train, face to face, with everyone touching everything. We do not share the same level of hygiene. FACT! People are going to wipe their noses, spread their sweat, and the worst of the worst, sleep on your shoulder.
Telework every man, woman and child who can do so. Japan bet everything on it's current infrastructure. Go to a 24 hour system where the trains run all night. Companies that operate internationally will benefit as a result.
It's still shocking that many ignored climate change. They want to blame China when that's wrong as well. Now they are ignoring the gravity of this pandemic in order to maintain a norm that no longer exists. It's better to work in the dark, than let the world fall into complete darkness.
Steve Martin
Excellent point Redtail Swift !!!
That, and triangulated with the facts that:
1 — tNishimura, a finance guy — not a pandemic expert, heads the pandemic response team ... and J
2 — Japan ranks 157 in the world for percentage of population tested for the virus .
One can not help bu suspect the social engineering going on now is related to the shape of an economic K curve ... the upper arm reserved for GAFA and similar concentrations of corporate-political power, the lower leg of the k for the rest of us disposable human capital.
Christopher Glen
“I have seen more and more people not wearing masks recently. We need to remember that the masks do nothing for the person wearing the mask, it helps the people around them. These plastic face shields worn without a mask are a joke as well. The virus is airborne so the face shield is most likely less effective than covering you mouth when you cough.”
Do you have conclusive proof? All I’ve found is might and maybe.
Strangerland
This is incorrect. Masks offer a degree of protection for the wearer.
Yes. Significantly.
This is incorrect.
Mendo Valdez
This is extremely sad news. Still, the situation is not that bad: Japan is a country of 128,000,000 individuals, and its highest number of daily infections has been around 1,500 infected. Meanwhile, the United States has a population of 328,000,000, and its average number of daily infections has been 50,000 infected for several weeks now. And European countries are not doing much better.
But focusing in Japan, it is necessary to state that, while the overwhelming majority of the Japanese people are behaving exemplary in regards to Covid; always wearing masks, maintaining distance, constantly disinfecting hands (as it was to be expected of the people of this country), there is an infinitesimally small minority of individuals who are making the infected rate grow up. I am referring to those who attend red light districts, of course. This irresponsible minority are ruining the effort and good intentions of the majority of the citizens.
And I am really disappointed at Koike and other governors for not shutting down brothels and Kyabakura clubs during these tough times.
Of course there are other huge focus of infections as well, like those American army men stationed in Okinawa, who are partying like crazy constantly, without taking any kind of preventive measures.
During these times when all of us should be cooperating for the benefit of our health, there must always be a percentage of selfish individuals who spoil everything. Definitely makes me lose my faith in the human species.
Zeram1
472 new covid reported on Saturday in Tokyo.
Something obviously needs to change in policy, as the current one doesn’t seem to be working.
carpslidy
StrangerlandAug. 1 01:14 am JST
Only those who spend their time commenting on a message board of country they don't live in. Would say the s.o.e was worth the trillions it cost the economy.
Again , if you lived here you would know that an s.o.e is voluntary and without government support (which tokyo etc can got provide=they're broke) many business are openly saying the will ignore the request.
InspectorGadget
The horse has bolted. This is now un-containable apart from some natural quirk in the population which gives some resistance etc. Under Japans constitution they can't tell anyone (compel) anyone to do anything. Just ask in stronger and stronger terms. They have no effective tools for getting this under control.
The numbers in Japan are probably low for two reasons.
1) Lack of/difficulty in getting tested.
2) Customs. People bow instead of shake hands/hug/kiss. If you are bowing at a meter apart, you are far less likely to transmit the virus than if you are hugging a loved one face to face. Shaking hands, then unconsciously touching your face carries similar risks.
thetoleratedone
They just partying on and having fun as usual far as I can see. Wish I had such a sense of invincibility and superiority.
Alex Simovic
there is no bail out to help bars restaurants and small business' if they don't open they go broke and its over....Abe is not helping the little man he is not enforcing close downs, his attitude oh well you closed down it was your choice not my problem...so its going to spread and spread and spread...
Dennis711
@Strangerland
I know it's hard to believe the US government but I believe the Center for Disease Control (CDC).
This is a poster that gives detailed information on face coverings.
https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/npptl/pdfs/UnderstandingDifference3-508.pdf
Kuruki
Australia recorded similar amount of cases, but the level of response from the government is huge. One of the states in Australia has now gone into a second lockdown with mandatory masks, shut down of non-essential businesses and curfew.
This will obviously have a huge impact on the economy and local businesses, but it shows that Australian government values lives while Japan values money.
People may think that the % and numbers are low, but what you need to understand is that COVID-19 has a higher infection rate that the flu so it's highly infectious and hence, may lead to the loss of another life of a vulnerable individual.
Pandemics don't just come and go. It lingers for a long time so it's going to be a long battle. Don't put your selfish needs and money before people's live. Maybe the naysayers will change their stance when the next life that COVID claims is someone close to you.
Stay vigilant, stay safe, and stay healthy everyone!
For the extroverted people out there, there are plenty of ways to use this social-distancing time with self-development and connect with loved ones via technology :)
neowave
The virus will slowly make its way through no matter what (takes about 1-2 years). It's virtually impossible to stop unless you have a full lock down for 2-4 weeks (no movement - which isn't realistic). The important thing is that there are enough available resources to support those who have severe symptoms. They are not ventilating every single patient like they did in NYC (9 out of 10 people died). Gov. Cuomo made it illegal to reject seniors who were already infected back into the nursing homes which killed even more. Search "gov Cuomo sends elderly to nursing homes" and you'll wonder "what was he thinking?".
Focus on the number of deaths / death rate. Extremely low in Japan (we should be the epicenter for the kind of rush hour we have here packed like sardines every morning) and 95%+ of the people infected recover but those with comorbidities (age, diabetes, obesity, heart disease, stroke history, cancer history) must take extra precaution to protect themselves as they are at higher risk.
There are outliers but children have the strongest immune systems and are basically 99.9% asymptomatic with no issues. When you start getting into the age 60+ that's when you start to see much higher risks but it all depends on their lifestyle. But there are always outliers that make the headlines which in turn create more fear through the media.
Be wary of the vaccine unicorn. They couldn't even develop a safe vaccine for the 1st coronavirus SARS and still don't have one yet. During the animal studies with ferrets they had developed antibodies only to have organ failure / overactive immune system / death when exposed to the actual live virus later. Now they are to fast track one from Moderna with no placebo backed by billions $$$. They are only using "healthy" people in the vaccine trials who are already getting sick in phase 2. What happens when they start injecting Joe bag O donuts who's overweight and diabetic or on statin drugs for high cholesterol?
Strengthen your immune system so if you do get infected you will be asymptomatic and or slightly symptomatic and recover faster. All things being equal in terms of health, some people will feel like crap and some people will have virtually no symptoms but majority of them will recover.
MSS says and wants you to believe that the natural antibodies don't last (just disappear) so you need the vaccine with multiple booster shots per year $$Huge Profits$$ for big pharma and more control of society - NO. Once you are able to produce antibodies specific to this virus your body will produce them when needed (blueprint is there) in case you get infected again. Notice how they keep reporting on vaccine development (but NEVER healthy, immune boosting solutions) and how "optimistic" they are (company share value$$$ go up the same day)?
Don't take my word for it. Do a little more digging beyond what's being presented in the mainstream news.