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Ease sooner than later.

We know enough about the coronavirus now that it makes sense to start recovering the world economy

-4 ( +16 / -20 )

Yes we know it kills people. You'd soon change your tune if you or a family member caught it.

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Waddo, so what do you want the population to do after getting the virus under control?

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We must learn to live with this virus until a vaccine is found to help immune ourselves from it, until then, a balanced approach is needed to protect the economy too, I’m glad Japan hasn’t seen it’s cases growing, and hopefully life would get back to the new normal for all

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I don't understand why they keep sending the population mixed messages and expecting the public to heed the warnings. For the past week they have drastically reduced the number of testing until the number of new infection in Tokyo has fallen to single digit and telling the public the virus is spreading. How can the virus be spreading and the number of new cases reducing, makes no sense at all.

It is not rocket science to figure out it has spread and continues to spread since testing and isolation is not carried out. The measly pcr testing has been reduced even further so as to reveal low numbers of infection.

11 ( +15 / -4 )

I’m still trying to figure how I can get any social distance on the the Yamanote line...

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They can ease restrictions all they want, but I will avoid the stampede of all malls, ramen shops and every retail store for a very long time, already I’m seeing people being relaxed and not wearing masks, massive clusters are on their way and when the government says things on easing “restrictions” that’s basically a green light to the people saying, “you’re ok and free to go back to your old habits.” The virus is gone and life has returned back to normal. People have already NOT been that good with following the safety guidelines by next week, people won’t even remember we had them.

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They have flattened the curve in Japan. The virus is not going away any time soon. Be cautious, aware, but not fearful. This has not killed many Japanese citizens in over 4 months. We must accept this risk as a society.

Don't take away people's livelihoods and incomes or there will be much more pain and suffering.

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I’m still trying to figure how I can get any social distance on the the Yamanote line..

Lol,

You will have to ride on top of the train like in some 3rd world countries.

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I humbly suggest that Tokyo Gov Yuriko Koike has never been able to resolve or separate political ambitions from a need to fully focus on the preparedness and response, either risk management, or continuity planing for testing/tracing to reconcile a program to combat coronavirus COVID-19.

Tokyo Gov Yuriko Koike, cynical political points scoring, coupled with an unique inability to move beyond a “press conference” mentality is frankly shameful.......

"By taking careful steps, we will attempt to strike a balance in protecting our residents' lives with (the city's) economic and social activities," said Koike.

She also urged residents not to let their guard down along with the lifting of the measures for 39 prefectures. "I would like to ask all please not to forget that Tokyo is still in the midst of a crisis of (new coronavirus) infections spreading."

No thanks to Tokyo Gov Yuriko Koike lack of any practical concrete measures or strategies to contain the spread of the pandemic .

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I’m still trying to figure how I can get any social distance on the the Yamanote line..

Try the Chuo Line. Then you will feel that Yamanote Line is best social distance.

But anyway, I agree with Objective's post, "we must accept the risk as a society".

There are so many other risks we have in life which can harm our health, and can also end in death. (Smoking cigarettes, drinking alcohol, eating Junk food...). But we dont care about those risks. We accept them.

But for the Corona Virus everyone makes a big Hype of it. I dont understand that.

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@Objective They have flattened the curve in Japan....What they have done is stopped testing so nobody knows the exact number of infections...less than 100 tests daily today in Tokyo..If anyone believes Jinc they are quite welcome to take off your masks go out in Tokyo knock yourself out...

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People and their lives matter most!

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The virus is not under control, but the reported numbers are. ;)

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She also urged residents not to let their guard down along with the lifting of the measures for 39 prefectures. "I would like to ask all please not to forget that Tokyo is still in the midst of a crisis of (new coronavirus) infections spreading."

Another attempt to shift the onus onto ordinary people: "Go to work, go to bars, spend money but if you catch covid-19 it's your own fault."

Koike was invisible for the 6 weeks before the Olympics was cancelled and now she's engaged in a battle of wills with Abe and the central government. These politicians are shameless liars who would do anything to further their careers.

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@Northernlife

and everyone is quite welcome to do a self lockdown at home for weeks or months, quit job, eating Cup Noodles everyday as long as the money is enough...

People are always talking about numbers of tests.

Let´s guess: I go to a hospital, I got tested, I am negative.

Then I leave the hospital. Even in the elevator, on the stairs, from the doctor who does the test, from the taxi driver, in the train, in 7-11, ...everywhere I can get it. That means that the test, I just took 5 minutes ago makes zero sense. How many times should I go for a test?

Therefor I agree with Objective's post and I said in my post, everywhere you are at a risk in life.

If people dont want to take these risks, everyone is free to stay home and lock down himself.

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People have already NOT been that good with following the safety guidelines by next week, people won’t even remember we had them.

Wait... Aren't you the guy supporting immediate reopening of the american economy and the gun-toting crazies that protest in front of official buildings? How can you have such opposing views for the exact same socio-political issue here in Japan??

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Koike has been telling everyone to stay home, but she is always out having meetings and press conferences. Why doesn't she stay home? She's too good for Zoom or Skype?

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Northernlufe, “less than 100 tests daily today in Tokyo”

This makes no sense. It’s too early in the day for figures for today to have been released. And if you meant daily figures, while there have been some days with less than 100 tests there are plenty of days with more, such as the 211 performed yesterday, Friday the 15th.

https://stopcovid19.metro.tokyo.lg.jp/

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Wait... Aren't you the guy supporting immediate reopening of the american economy

Yes, I am and the situation is totally different, the demographics, how testing is done, how safety guidelines were delegated, autopsies done, the landmass of the US, the detailed and seriousness of how the information was delegated, how some States have very little infections after multiple testing, should re-open and hot spots to remain on full lockdown, phased re-openings, none of that is taking place in Japan.

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Yes, I am and the situation is totally different

It is?!

Some States have very little infections after multiple testing, should re-open and hot spots to remain on full lockdown, phased re-openings, none of that is taking place in Japan.

But that is exactly what is happening in Japan right now.

If anything, the fact that Japan had way much less deaths and infections than america (per capita or in total) should push you to have the exact opposite opinion : open Japan up a.s.a.p. and keep America closed or more people with die. I mean logically, you would.

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*They are to be followed by theaters and other facilities with a low risk of people gathering and having close contact in closed settings. After that, all other facilities will resume operations, except those considered to be a high-risk environment.*

I don't have much to complain about now-- good health for myself/loved ones, work relatively intact-- but my gym (a large national chain) being closed is driving me nuts. I wish Koike could take a look at the measures in place there before the emergency-- plenty of spacing/sanitizing/ventilating, probably much cleaner and safer than any supermarket.

I'm glad that we'll be able to go to libraries and museums, and soon perhaps movies theaters, but I wish we had more specific information on sports gyms. I'm hoping for the "other facilities" step, can of course accept the "all other facilities" step, and worry it may be "except those..."

Does anybody have any hopeful news?

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Just suspend the economy for 2 years or however long it takes to get a vaccine ready. Universal Basic Income for 2 years. Look up the pros and cons.

Restaurants? Hah, I'd be surprised if 50% don't go under, what with people like me not so eager to go back to those places that have cramped seating. I'm lucky I am at that age where not going to a bar or some other nightlife thing leaves some void in my life.

2 years of UBI, and that's give everywhere enough time to 1) get their business ready for the new standards in society, OR 2) rethink their lives and maybe take up some other profession.

At least give these small business a partial monthly subsidy, and if they can't stay afloat even with that help, then they should just fade out, like the samurai.

I do miss ramen restaurants, that's for sure.

I, for one, am to going to push my employer to continue allowing us the option to work from home at least part of the week.

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It is?!

Of course.

But that is exactly what is happening in Japan right now.

Not nearly the level that it was in the States, not anywhere in the hardest hit areas. In Fukuoka the mandatory wasn’t fully and heavily enforced, you could go to the supermarkets any time of the day or evening you wanted, people not wearing masks, many shops still open, elderly all over the place and now they want to make a mass dash to re-open the schools, no phasing in, no daily checks.

If anything, the fact that Japan had way much less deaths and infections than america (per capita or in total) should push you to have the exact opposite opinion :

As I have repeatedly said, Japan is not some far off and mythical land where the virus has difficulties spreading because of the uniqueness of the country. Do mandatory testing, do autopsies on every person and then please get back to me and maybe you can convince me. Other than that, they’re playing with fire, just absurd and stupid.

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Though further review and updates are necessary, the roadmap with numerical targets is better than just emphasis of "minna gambaro!!"

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@bass

do autopsies on every person

Let’s start with the deceased, eh?

; )

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This woman is nasty!

Her real plan is this:

Use the testing data (Inaccurate, intentionally limited by Abe) to transfer liability (legal and insurance) to the citizens/residents

Once she’s pretended to done her job (publicly display it’s safe in writing) then lift the state of emergency

Once the second wave comes, out the state of emergency without taking any accountability for infections or deaths

Please don’t be deceived by this!

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Let’s start with the deceased, eh?

Of course.

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bass4funk

will avoid retail stores

so I guess you are sending your wife and kids out for the shopping.

Do mandatory testing, do autopsies on every person and then please get back to me and maybe you can convince me. Other than that, they’re playing with fire, just absurd and stupid.

Testing in American is not mandatory. Autopsies in Japan can only be performed with permission of the family unless a crime is involved. Autopsies in America have been declining for decades. See medical literature.

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In Fukuoka the mandatory wasn’t fully and heavily enforced

It wasn't mandatory or heavily enforced anywhere in the country, actually.

As I have repeatedly said, Japan is not some far off and mythical land where the virus has difficulties spreading because of the uniqueness of the country.

Some people would disagree.

https://asia.nikkei.com/Opinion/Japan-s-coronavirus-response-is-flawed-but-it-works

Do mandatory testing, do autopsies on every person

And that is remotely not hapenning in the States. So why the double standard, again?

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This woman is nasty!

Her real plan is this:

Use the testing data (Inaccurate, intentionally limited by Abe) to transfer liability (legal and insurance) to the citizens/residents

Once she’s pretended to done her job (publicly display it’s safe in writing) then lift the state of emergency 

Once the second wave comes, out the state of emergency without taking any accountability for infections or deaths

Please don’t be deceived by this!

See, Someone gets it! Bingo!

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Bass, “now they want to make a mass dash to re-open the schools, no phasing in, no daily checks”

Don't know about Fukuoka, but the public schools in my prefecture that have reopened are doing twice daily temperature checks at school, have staggered attendance hours on school days plus having some days off, have put space between desks, have students just raise their hand and not speak out for roll call plus a variety of other measures.

Invalid CSRF

-1 ( +0 / -1 )

It wasn't mandatory or heavily enforced anywhere in the country, actually.

Japan especially, Fukuoka.....Nope.

Some people would disagree.

Many people agree.

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2020/05/09/national/abe-coronavirus-survey/#.Xr9JRy-xjmo

https://thediplomat.com/2020/03/japans-limited-response-to-the-covid-19-pandemic/

And that is remotely not hapenning in the States. So why the double standard, again?

Far more than Japan and at least you have governors in the States taking a very hardline and proactive Stance on businesses and social guidelines unlike Japan.

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Autopsies in Japan can only be performed with permission of the family unless a crime is involved.

So you made my point, then we can never truly know because of that. That helps the GOJ in trying to convince the woefully enlightened people that the numbers are lower. Good strategy.

Autopsies in America have been declining for decades. See medical literature.

And yet, we do more detailed testing compared to Japan overall, not perfect, no country is, but compared to Japan, every other country has handled this better and more thoroughly.

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Japan especially, Fukuoka.....Nope.

Sorry, I don't understand what that is supposed to mean.

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2020/05/09/national/abe-coronavirus-survey/#.Xr9JRy-xjmo

https://thediplomat.com/2020/03/japans-limited-response-to-the-covid-19-pandemic/

These two articles in no way disprove that Japan has been relatively spared from the effects of the corona virus, making them indeed an exception on the world stage (which you claim they aren't).

you have governors in the States taking a very hardline and proactive Stance on businesses and social guidelines 

And you regularly lambast those governors and call them by all sorts of names, so I'm at a loss as to what you're trying to say again.

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On a normal day, over 100,000 people die, and over 250,000 people are born. Up until the year 2020, the normal way people defeated viruses was by exposing as many people to it as possible to achieve herd immunity as quickly as possible.

The behavior of people today is insane. Hiding inside is not going to save you. And yes, sometimes a lot of people die from diseases and sickness.

There is no reason to shut down the entire globe because of this.

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Sorry, I don't understand what that is supposed to mean.

Typical liberal response expected, I understand.

These two articles in no way disprove that Japan has been relatively spared from the effects of the corona virus, making them indeed an exception on the world stage (which you claim they aren't).

Yes, they have, now if you don’t want to see it like that, it’s your right, but it clearly shows that Japan has and continues to fail on this pandemic particularly when it comes to the numbers. Again, South Korea had thousands that died and Japan far, far less because it’s a mythical land that inhibits the virus from affecting people? Sorry.

In regards to testing for the virus for example, while on the surface Japan may appear to have only a small number of confirmed cases at the present, this low number is most likely the result of its similarly low rate of testing. To highlight just how little Japan is testing, my home state of South Australia, with an estimated population of 1.7 million people, has, at the time of writing, tested 16,717 people. Japan on the other hand, with an estimated population of 126 million people, has only tested 16,484 individuals.

And you regularly lambast those governors and call them by all sorts of names,

That has absolutely nothing to do with the job they’re doing. Separate issue, nothing to be at a loss about.

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Typical liberal response expected, I understand.

No, what I mean is that the way you write is hard to understand because you often write sentences without any verbs in them. "Japan especially, Fukuoka.....Nope." is a sentence that has no meaning.

but it clearly shows that Japan has and continues to fail on this pandemic particularly when it comes to the numbers.

No, the links you posted show that the public does not like the governments response to the crisis (and they are right), and that the way it's handled is strange to says the least (that is also true). It doesn't change the actual numbers. I, too, suspect they are higher than what the governement says, but there has clearly been no overwhelmed hospitals and makeshift morgues to be built anywhere, unlike a lot of western countries, so something indeed went completely differently here. There has been no tragedy in Japan in regards to covid as of yet.

Again, South Korea had thousands that died 

South Korea has 262 Covid deaths. What "thousands" are you talking about?

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No, what I mean is that the way you write is hard to understand because you often write sentences without any verbs in them.

I just like cutting to the chase and get straight to the point and save time on belaboring crap a lot of people know or don’t care about.

No, the links you posted show that the public does not like the governments response to the crisis (and they are right), and that the way it's handled is strange to says the least (that is also true).

Exactly.

It doesn't change the actual numbers. I, too, suspect they are higher than what the governement says, but there has clearly been no overwhelmed hospitals and makeshift morgues to be built anywhere,

We don’t know this because Japan doesn’t do enough autopsies, so we will never know the full disclosed cause of death, they can say it’s pneumonia and the catalyst of death could have been the COVID-19.

unlike a lot of western countries, so something indeed went completely differently here. There has been no tragedy in Japan in regards to covid as of yet

Yes, we will never know the true numbers in this country, sad.

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I honestly cant believe we are all on lockdown waiting for less than 20 cases a day, for at least an entire week straight.

in a 14 million person population (not including people who commute in to Tokyo to work)?

I now agree, the only way that will ever happen is if the government tests fewer than 20 people every day for a week. Tokyo is reopening 1 June, they just dont know it yet.

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The behavior of people today is insane. Hiding inside is not going to save you. 

no...but it could save someone potentially vulnerable from dying. it could save spreading to a care worker who could then spread it in a place like a hospital. they go to work for us. we stay at home for them.

it's not all about you, dude

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Again, South Korea had thousands that died

Again, wrong.

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I just like cutting to the chase and get straight to the point

Like saying South Korea had "thousands of deaths" when it only had 262?

We don’t know this because Japan doesn’t do enough autopsies

We do know that Japan did not have to bury their dead in ditches and build makeshift morgues like it happened in a lot of other countries. Which means the hospitals and morgues were not overwhelmed by Covid patients, or at least not as much as in, for example, Spain or France. I was really skeptical about the numbers too, but unless the governement is hiding thousands of corpses somewhere, the fact is that Japan was spared from a tragedy. So you calling for more prudence here and total reopening in the US where the number of dead people grows by the hour is absolutely incomprehensible.

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There is no enforcement. Just like Abe can’t force you to stay at home, they can’t force your business to close at 8 pm. I walked along 246 between Shibuya and Sanja at 10:30 pm last night and they were all cherry faced and drinking as usual. The national chain stores close but the little guys who run the gyoza places with ten lanterns hanging out front can do as they please. A gym like Konami has to close temporarily but some of the the smaller gyms have been open all this time.

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@Monty

There are so many other risks we have in life which can harm our health, and can also end in death. (Smoking cigarettes, drinking alcohol, eating Junk food...). But we dont care about those risks. We accept them.

But for the Corona Virus everyone makes a big Hype of it. I dont understand that.

It's your own personal choice, if you smoke, drink excessively, or binge on junk food, but you can't really "choose" covid-19, can you. Health risks related to lifestyle choices are your own responsibility, that's why there's no 'hype' related to them. With covid-19, in the worst case, you may get severely ill, and you may die of a painful death relatively fast - did you want it or not. You can choose to stop smoking, to stop drinking, to stop eating un-healthy food. You can't just choose or decide to "stop being ill from covid-19" should you catch it. Lifestyle related illnesses also develop over a long time, there are treatments available, and if they were to kill you, they'll kill you quite slowly, over years. Covid-19, if it kills, it kills in a few weeks, and for now, there's no cure.

and everyone is quite welcome to do a self lockdown at home for weeks or months, quit job, eating Cup Noodles everyday as long as the money is enough...

People are always talking about numbers of tests.

Let´s guess: I go to a hospital, I got tested, I am negative.

Then I leave the hospital. Even in the elevator, on the stairs, from the doctor who does the test, from the taxi driver, in the train, in 7-11, ...everywhere I can get it. That means that the test, I just took 5 minutes ago makes zero sense. How many times should I go for a test?

I think you're looking at this from your own perspective, thinking how to protect yourself. Testing is important, to find out the positives, so that the positive cases become aware of their situation and stop spreading the virus around them, to others. By now everyone should know that you can carry the virus asymptomatically, therefore unknowingly spreading it around, perhaps to someone who works as a frontline worker or someone who will get very severe symptoms and possibly die of it. Also, usually the covid-19 testing is not done inside the hospitals, in the sense that you would be allowed to walk through the public spaces there, ride the elevators, or climb stairs, but quite often it's done in booths or tents outside the hospitals, or in spaces that have a side/back entrance. We should also be self-isolating as much as we can now, to reduce the risk of catching the virus "from the taxi driver, in the train, in 7-11,..".

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The behavior of people today is insane. Hiding inside is not going to save you.

Quite the blanket statement there. It will indeed save some people. In fact, if they don't stay inside, they face a high risk of dying.

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We do know that Japan did not have to bury their dead in ditches and build makeshift morgues like it happened in a lot of other countries.

They cremate them so there goes that argument. No clues, No nothing.

the fact is that Japan was spared from a tragedy.

You can think that if you want, I don’t and a lot of experts around the globe don’t

So you calling for more prudence here and total reopening in the US

Yes, especially knowing that safety measures by the governors and busy owners will be strictly enforced and heavily monitored unlike in Japan.

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They cremate them so there goes that argument. No clues, No nothing.

This argument would only make sense if :

A)You provided number of overwhelmed crematoriums in Japan (they aren't)

B)Burning thousands of cadavers was easy and took only a few minutes (it isn't, it doesn't)

C)Most of the world didn't also cremate their dead (over 50% for the USA).

a lot of experts around the globe don’t

Please post sources of "a lot of experts around the globe" who think that a huge number of people actually in Japan died from Covid-19.

Do you think that more or less people died from Covid in Japan than the "thousands" (actually 262) in South Korea?

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Humans can pass the virus to their cats Which can pass the virus to other cats, which can pass to another owner. Cats show no symptoms.

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@Educator60 the numbers are what I saw on TV last night not the website but still you really think 211 is enough for a population of what 20 odd mill...The problem is Japan has the oldest population in the World they are the ones at high risk if you dont contain this properly trace it Japan will make Americas numbers look like a drop in the Ocean..Everyone is someone and every life has meaning..For those who want their economy have it I personally could not care my family is always first.. if you were having money issues before this guess what its not going to change if your having issues during this well you didn't save bad luck...when we come out of all this your still probably going to have the same issues....

As for Yuriko Koike shes been lying from day one her and Abe are keeping the testing numbers down you cant even get tested all the stories that are coming out online its scary.Its subhuman what the government is doing if this were any other Country they would be rioting in the streets..

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This argument would only make sense if :

A)You provided number of overwhelmed crematoriums in Japan (they aren't)

They haven’t so, we can’t conclude President verify

B)Burning thousands of cadavers was easy and took only a few minutes (it isn't, it doesn't)

They could do it, they build the fastest trains, they just don’t want to. Japan is a dry resource country.

C)Most of the world didn't also cremate their dead (over 50% for the USA).

Most of the world didn’t downplay it like Abe. “You should stay at home, you should wash your hands, that’s about it, nothing mandatory. I had to yell at this woman the other day for getting too, too close to me at the market and I shouldn’t have to do that, but to my For mentioned point, that’s why Abe was inept in regards to dealing with this virus.

Please post sources of "a lot of experts around the globe"

CNN, SKY News, Stratfor

Do you think that more or less people died from Covid in Japan than the "thousands" (actually 262) in South Korea?

I’m not sure asked who was infected or who is caring it or who had it, I don’t know and will never know, not in Japan at least.

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Readers, please keep the discussion focused on Tokyo and refrain from bickering.

@Northernlife

Glad someone’s got it! It’s easy to see through these lies, don’t believe a word or number of it!

Tokyo at best will lift the state of emergency for a few places like libraries and possibly outdoor sports facilities with restrictions imposed.

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@Taro all of a sudden people believe the government because its what they want to hear..Yes I want to hear things are looking good but from these lying politicians I will give it a miss..

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Tokyo Immigration with whom I spoke multiple times this week don't care about Abe and Koike's warning to stay home they require us to file applications, the same docs I've had to file the past 40 or so years, in person.

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Because of the SOE, there are delays with cremations.

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JalapenoToday  10:21 am JST

Just suspend the economy for 2 years or however long it takes to get a vaccine ready. Universal Basic Income for 2 years. Look up the pros and cons.

UBI for 2 years? Have you no concept of where money comes from?

Stop being a victim and get to work.

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It's no good bickering about which person may have been infected, or may have died from the disease. Most of the stats are unreliable. The only one that does work (in advanced countries at least) is excess deaths.

In the US, excess deaths peaked at about 20% of the regular level of deaths. So long as Japan is not doing worse than that, they should be fully open.

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... over 50 or more a day??? Do you mean over 50?

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Imagine, going back to work, on a packed subway train, with simply one individual carrying the Virus. immediately, the whole carriage would potentially become infected, should that individual not be wearing a face mask. But... we all use the hand rails to hang on, when the subway train swerves around corners, so what if that individual used the same hand rail as yourself ? Now just think about the many things you do after exiting the subway before reaching your Office desk.... take office entry card out of your pocket, (pocket now is infected, as too entry card), press elevator call button - well that too now is infected, likewise once in the elevator, the floor button.

OK, so to alleviate these, you can alcohol wash your hand on entry to your company... but hey, what about that pass-card you used ... it still potentially contains the virus, as too your pockets. You should also spray that those too.

So.... in short, this virus, given its ability to stick around upon things, and in the air, etc. isn't going to go away period. It's going to continue popping up, and especially once we all start going back to work, we will all face challenges which may seem "virtual" in order to mitigate transferral. So Good luck to us all!

Changes we may see are touchless access cards being used to direct elevators to our primary working floor, and automatic doors between floors when the need arises to go between floors which will have to be done by the stairwell.

Touchless... being the key (excuse the punn)

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Yep, mmw.

I noticed today that my local KFC has got permanent, hard plastic screens installed between the staff and customers. Not the flimsy, temporary stuff they have in 7-11 or Lawson’s.

A hint of things to come?

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What the Tokyo governor and all the governors in Japan need to do is take the total death rate for the total of last year and add the death rate of this year and find out what the true situation is. I found one site that said there was over 10 thousand deaths for all of last year and this year already over 10 thousand. Common sense needs to be use for the safety of all the lives here in Japan and our children.

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@strangerland - Nice cherry-picking attempt, but what you’re saying is 100% untrue.

Overall, sitting inside, being afraid of the virus, will save no one. Even once these mythical “vaccines” start rolling out from the big pharma companies, they will be less than 30% effective, just like flu vaccines. Eventually you are going to get SARS-Cov-2, and just like the common cold, the virus will mutate, and you will get it again.

People today act like no one is supposed to die of sickness and disease, but sickness and disease is natural and humans will always be vulnerable to that.

By all means though, continue hiding from the trillions of microscopic terrors in the world of that’s what makes you feel better.

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got to say the people in Tokyo have responded and by wearing masks it’s clearly cut the spread-it’s a big disadvantage that Europe has wearing masks is not part of the culture of most countries in the region.

however now is not the time to start arranging those saki in the park parties, until there is a vaccination there’s always a strong chance we’re back in this situation in the winter.

What abe can do is start thinking to socially distance japan from China and join the world in asking them some serious questions about how this virus was allowed to cause so much damage. Sanctions and start cutting financial ties with them Mr Abenomask..

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Overall, sitting inside, being afraid of the virus, will save no one.

What a silly assertion. "Overall, staying away from the virus, will save no one from the virus".

You say that as if the sentence is self-justifying.

Even once these mythical “vaccines” start rolling out from the big pharma companies, they will be less than 30% effective, just like flu vaccines.

Oh, you're one of those. Dismissed.

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@strangeland - Yes I’m one of those. Someone who can read statistical data printed by various health organizations around the world. Based on your replies to my and many others’ posts on this website, you’re not one of those. Dismissed.

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When all else fails, just call people names on the internet. It makes you look smart.

Should I switch to talking about big pharma?

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When all else fails, just call people names on the internet. It makes you look smart.

Should I switch to talking about big pharma?

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When all else fails, just call people names on the internet. It makes you look smart.

Should I switch to talking about big pharma?

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folks, this is Japan they will do everything Japanese way, it doesn't matter if there is a successful model elsewhere.

They will do whatever, whenever, whichever, they please,

do you really think they care what common folks thinks, especially foreigners, LOL.

They don't ,

And people follow them like the sheep, many of you makes good sense,but no one will hear you

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