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Tokyo confirms 63 new coronavirus cases, a record daily increase

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Close the city!! Actually I'm not scared of corona just don't want to go to work do nothing!

4 ( +13 / -9 )

Here it comes.

11 ( +16 / -5 )

Koike should check out her hometown of Ashiya, there are plenty of people drinking and eating there and not wearing masks...

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Close Japan!

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Quite frankly, I don't think a lockdown will make any difference. I don't believe a lockdown has worked in New York, Paris or any other city, except Wuhan, where the Chinese government employed draconian measures. I think we have to learn to co-exist with the virus, modifying our behavior accordingly and maintaining good hygiene. Everything I have read says that the virus only results in mild symptoms for 80% of people. We can live with that. If we feel unwell, we stay home. I've done it before with the flu and I'll do it again. It is the vulnerable -- the elderly and those with existing medical conditions that need the most vigilance and care.

But bringing the economy to a halt through a lockdown is having catastrophic results in other countries and I really hope we don't have to go through that here. Maybe they should stop reporting the daily number of infections. It just causes panic. It is the number of deaths that is most crucial.

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Is anybody surprised by this? The parks were full of thousands of hanami watchers last weekend, the supermarkets have been packed with panic shoppers with zero acknowledgement of any self distancing and the trains a are just as packed as they always are. Move over Italy and the US. Here comes Japan to share your thunder.

Japan has been sitting on this for months and have taken very few precautions because they were to busy praying for the Olympics to go ahead. Now, the rate of infections is going crazy because people have not distanced themselves.

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This is already old. It’s 60 cases now as if 16:40. They have this all planned out. 75 today 62 tomorrow. 85 the next day then they’ll give us a breather, 78, then 90. Japanese government’s bedside manners.

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If the idiots who get infected through their own stupidity and selfishness were the only people who got sick and died, it wouldn't matter so much. But, unfortunately, it's not limited to simple karma. Those people infect others, and keep the virus strong and plentiful, with so many hosts in which to reproduce. Those selfish, lazy morons are responsible for making this thing drag out and last much longer than it needs to.

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At this rate, all of Tokyo will be infected by the year 3390.

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Abe seriously dropped the ball when he had a chance to stop the rate of infection and stop all travel to japan when he closed the schools. He’s done nothing to prevent this disaster other than ruin the graduation of a whole generation of students-for nothing.

Close the borders, test anyone with a temperature over 36.9 and keep those infected away from other people until they get through it. Japan needs to come together behind a coherent plan instead of hoping for the best. If abe had ever travelled on the Yamanote line at rush hour he would know there was no way it wasn’t going to spread..

resign abe.

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And that's one city only. I wouldn't be surprised to see the number of cases rising in other cities too.

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At this rate, all of Tokyo will be infected by the year 3390.

Once an infection takes hold, infections spread at 25-20% per day.

Look at the USA - fewer than 100 to 100,000 in a month.

Your mathematics needs some work.

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Does anyone know if you can request a test in Tokyo or do you have to wait until you show signs?

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"virus" this "infection" that, to the point it made me literally sick, just some runny nose though. Even my motorcycle is in the garage for weeks, moving around Tokyo exclusively by car these days, no wonder the traffic got worse these days even with relatively less people going to work/school.

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@smartacus

If people don't stay at home the infections will accelerate. The problem is not that 80% survives with mild symptoms. The problem is that 20% of 120 million people are still 24,000,000. So tell me how will you treat that many people with not so mild symptoms??? (Of course the real numbers will be much much lower, I am ware of that, but a magnitude smaller number of people will still flood the healthcare system) I wouldn't be happy to hear about my relatives dying in intensive care in horror alone, connected to a ventilator.

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Does anyone know if you can request a test in Tokyo or do you have to wait until you show signs?

You gotta wait until your dead.And even then it's not guaranteed.

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I don't believe a lockdown has worked in New York, Paris or any other city, except Wuhan,

The measured take time to work - there is a lag. Deaths will be the final thing to stabilise and then fall.

Everything I have read says that the virus only results in mild symptoms for 80% of people.

We know. It's the 80% I'm worried about. Also, if the 20% are hospitalised, other patients are unable to get beds for non-Covid diseases.

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60 Saturday, plus 120 Sunday, plus 240 Monday? That's how it's spreading. Should have thought about all this earlier.

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@smartacus

Everything I have read says that the virus only results in mild symptoms for 80% of people. We can live with that. If we feel unwell, we stay home. I've done it before with the flu and I'll do it again. It is the vulnerable -- the elderly and those with existing medical conditions that need the most vigilance and care.

You should update your knowledge. This virus is causing severe physical distress also for the young and healthy, and it is also killing young people. Do you really want to gamble with this?

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The article needs to specify the denominator, the number of tested people. Taking the number of the previous day (87), 60 new cases means the ratio of confirmed to tested cases is 69%. From February 23 to March 23, the total number of confirmed cases was 154. The number of tested people was 2013. https://stopcovid19.metro.tokyo.lg.jp/

This means that ca. 7.7% of the sample was tested positive yesterday. This simple comparison shows that the ratio of confirmed cases to tests in Tokyo was increased by a factor of 9.

The ratio of 69% yesterday is extremely high compared with S. Korea where it was highest at 6.2% on February 29, but dropped thereafter to ca. 1% recently, even considering the extremely low number of tests in Japan.

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buffaloToday  05:04 pm JST

Does anyone know if you can request a test in Tokyo or do you have to wait until you show signs?

I believe the rule is; if you can no longer walk or breath on your own, you have to call for an ambulance and have the ambulance pick you up. Then you will lay in wait for several hours in the ambulance until they find a hospital that will take you and/or one that has an empty bed. Then when you finally get to a hospital, several hours later, they will tell you that you have too many symptoms and have to be transfer to a different hospital several hours away. So insure you have your Will completed.

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Readers, please refrain from posting fear-mongering comments like this. Click on the coronavirus link at the top of each page for guidance on what to do if you think you may have the virus.

@klausdorth

60 Saturday, plus 120 Sunday, plus 240 Monday? That's how it's spreading. Should have thought about all this earlier.

It is impossible unless the capacity of testing is increased substantially. The current capacity of Tokyo can not test more than 100 persons, which means the theoretical maximum number of cases is ca. 100. I guess it is a kind of logistic curve with an asymptote at 100.

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 I think we have to learn to co-exist with the virus, modifying our behavior accordingly and maintaining good hygiene.

We are learning to co-exist with it. We are not going to eradicate this disease just by a lockdown - either a vaccine or herd immunity through the disease spreading is necessary.

But let me ask you - how many deaths are a worthwhile sacrifice? Please put a number on it.

Also, how many secondary deaths are a worthwhile sacrifice (by which I mean people with other illnesses who cannot access hospitals or medicine because the medical system is full of coronavirus patients)? People are dying because of this.

Of course in everything we have to make a judgement between safety and convenience, even crossing the road. So what's your maximum number of lives that can be sacrificed in order to keep the economy going?

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All Govts have dropped the ball on this, China should have been shut down, no one out once it was discovered in january. Sorry if you think its not PC but better to isolate the source than to make the rest of the world go through a catastrophe.

If china was locked down when it was first discovered the rest of the world would not have had an issue now.

Most countries politicians let the tourists continue to wander amongst us for weeks knowing full well the virus was spreading. Either they knew or they didnt know, and if they didnt know that then they are too stupid to be in the positions they are in governing us !

I say they all knew full well what they were doing !

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Canada and Australia are countries that go about minding their own business and quietly doing what they have to do to take care of their own people.

Japan is not a straight talker. Got so many things up her sleeves. How many loops do you have to jump through to get a test that in other countries only take hours to get the results?

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At this rate, all of Tokyo will be infected by the year 3390.

Somebody slipped class when they covered the exponential equations.

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Tokyo confirms at least 60 new coronavirus cases, a record daily increase

Those are rookie numbers! You gotta push those up!

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People are stupid...and people in Japan are no different. Despite the ample opportunity they've had to observe what happened on other countries and learn from their mistakes, Japan has chosen instead to emulate the same arrogant denial that dropped everyone else in the proverbial crapper. Now our turn is rapidly approaching and hoards of idiots with zero ability to see beyond their immediate desires to self indulge are pretty much guaranteeing the system will be overloaded by a tsunami of the dumb and sick. Even Abe's wife can be counted among the brainless throng that flouted appeals to stem the transmission; appeals to exercise basic common sense...Sadly that turned out to be an impossible thing to ask...Commons sense and acting on it is just too hard...The thought of personally denying oneself of a day out drinking and looking at cherry blossoms is far too much a sacrifice for them to make, so now with this mentality of me me me...rampant throughout the archipelago, we can look forward the Japan's contribution to the daily MSM horror show as it takes its place on the podium of fail alongside all the other hedonistic states....Yay!

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Hustle

Now, the rate of infections is going crazy because people have not distanced themselves.

It is obvious that it will go crazy if PCR testing is ramped up. But I don't see the number of testing increasing as there is no intention of finding as many infected persons as possible.

With the daily number of test performed it will be difficult for triple digit infection per day.

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The problem is that 20% of 120 million people are still 24,000,000. So tell me how will you treat that many people with not so mild symptoms???

Exactly.

There is a process of educating people and particularly to think through the implications.

A lot of people can't see beyond the numbers today. This inhibits their ability to assess things properly.

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All Govts have dropped the ball on this, China should have been shut down, 

Speak for yourself. Look up Korea's example while you're at it.

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Soooooo many fear mongering foreigners on JT. Amazing. I think a lot of you need a hobby, apart from believing everything in the media that is.

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I hope Japan will go into lockdown for 2 weeks have everyone stay home and try and get this virus in check.  Had the people kept up what they were doing prior to the cherry blossom season staying in and not going out, however, ohhhh no, cherry blossoms out and so we cannot stay home.  My British friend and her Japanese husband would not even stay home (her words) we are going to Ueno and be in apart of the park where there are few people.  Crazy.

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Correct me if I am wrong but this viral outbreak has been described as a ....pandemic?

That is a fact...

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The government has deployed the Self-Defense Forces to greater Tokyo's Narita and Haneda airports to assist in virus screenings and the transport of people placed in quarantine, NHK said.

This is concerning. I want to avoid the "system" as much as possible. Look how bad it is when the police get hold of you and imagine how bad when the military owns you.

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Well, now that the Olympics have officially been postponed, there's no point in under reporting with the hope of still holding them this summer.

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Coronavirus: More than 900 deaths today in Italy.And people bellyaching over 60 infections,not deaths.The world is so wrong.

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We need testing. We need to identify those that are the walking spreaders of the virus. At this point the only people they're identifying seem to be those that have become visibly ill from the virus. When will massive testing begin?

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Somebody slipped class when they covered the exponential equations

i think you’re being generous here. I suspect somebody skipped class everyday.

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Soooooo many fear mongering foreigners on JT. Amazing. I think a lot of you need a hobby, apart from believing everything in the media that is.

A thousand people a day dying of this in Italy. This is not fear mongering, but about being a counterbalance to those who underplay the significance and seriousness of this global pandemic.

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no where to go but up.....stay home stay safe!

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For those of us with kids, are we supposed to send our kids to school on April 6th when the coronavirus situation is worse than when Abe closed down schools over a month ago???

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at least 60 

If 80% of cases are practically asymptomatic then the total number of people with the virus has also increased by 240...

I wonder if the Japanese government will make antibody tests available to see who has developed immunity. That's what the UK government is planning on doing so people who can't get it can go out again.

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@cornbread roger that - it's absurd my 2 daughters and son will have 1 hour train ride each way and classes will be fun of kids and teachers with who knows what illnesses - all because Japan is too backwards to do distance online learning like many more sensible caring countries are doing. It's a disgrace.

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80% of the people in Spain will have it. And so in many other countries, and as a result millions will die. And if the virus doesn't get you, the resulting depression will, like Japan and China and Taiwan not being able to trade. https://www.alternet.org/2020/03/why-the-coronavirus-crash-could-be-worse-than-the-great-depression/

Here are the stats for each state for next month. Need a seat belt: https://covidactnow.org/

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I went to work in Tokyo yesterday off peak and the train was not really crowded however it did seem like there were a lot of sick persons coughing and sneezing. People always say it is hay fever but I doubt it.

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ModeratorToday  05:26 pm JST

Readers, please refrain from posting fear-mongering comments like this. Click on the coronavirus link at the top of each page for guidance on what to do if you think you may have the virus.

My deepest apologies. Was speaking from experience however I did exaggerate it a little. And it wasn't Wuhan Virus. It was another medical emergency I had several years ago in Japan.

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Global economy invited two disasters. One is terrorism and the other prevalence of local illnesses.

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I know @macv The teachers and education department have mostly had an additional 3 week break this Spring to get some rudimentary on line learning or even YouTube lessons up and running. They do it Hong Kong, Seoul, Singapore and Jakarta.

A Junior High School teacher my family know said she had been coming to school everyday during the break but spent a lot of the time cleaning and gardening!

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since1981:

And it wasn't Wuhan Virus

It's called COVID-19. No, we don't need to hear about your fear-mongering, embellished stories or other over-the-top, irrelevant comments, thank you.

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@smartacus

Everything I have read says that the virus only results in mild symptoms for 80% of people. We can live with that. 

You can't. Because you might be one of the people who doesn't have mild symptoms. If you develop severe pneumonia, you might die, as so many already have. If you survive, you will be far more ill than you imagine. It won't feel like coexistence, or some neat calculation that you're comfortable with the idea of it happening to other people.

It also ought to be obvious to you by now that health services can't coexist with it either. Staff are getting infected and dying. When the health service is crippled, you don't get the treatment you need when you need it.

This is what it can be like:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12ZhdYCpJ90

I know you think this won't happen to you. But so did a lot of people who found themselves in the same position as this man.

What this disease can do to people and to communities is horrifying.

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smartacus:

Everything I have read says that the virus only results in mild symptoms for 80% of people. We can live with that.

I don't want my elderly mother or other elderly relatives and friends to drop dead. So, no, I don't want to live with that. Otherwise, why else are so many countries in a state of emergency?

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Allot of you all called this right. All I am going to say. One comment I read called it right three weeks ago that we would have these number we have today or as of today.

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And yet, Abe will not take stronger measures. Mark my words, Tokyo will soon overtake NY as the world's biggest infectious area at this rate and with the government's "plan" to "wait and pray" it away. Of course, the deaths they will attribute to anything but the virus, claiming, "Well, he died of pneumonia, not Covid-19!"

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An article from the Mainichi headlines "Governor condemns restaurants in Japan for banning foreigners amid virus fears"

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63 126 252 504 1008 2016 4032... That's a week's progress at current infection rates. Do the math.

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Don’t wait for more danger situation, see Italy , Spain and US condition. Do not say go out from home better to do lock down soon. Otherwise it’s difficult to handle the situation. Because train is not safe. First stop the transportation. Don’t think much about only Economy, think about person lives first. Otherwise Japan will face same problem like Italy. Its time to come for lock down, do make unclear plans.

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For those of us with kids, are we supposed to send our kids to school on April 6th when the coronavirus situation is worse than when Abe closed down schools over a month ago???

That's 12 days away. A lot can happen in 12 days. High likelihood that national emergency will be declared by then. If I were to guess, I'd give it 3-5 days...

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There are a lot of self-prophets of doom and gloom concerning Japan up on here.How many of yous claiming credit for spouting the obvious? Too many that's how many. As my grandma used to say." If you think you know better,you know where the door is." It applies to all, no?

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63 126 252 504 1008 2016 4032... That's a week's progress at current infection rates. Do the math.

How do you figure? Numbers went down on Friday from the previous day. They will likely be 0 tomorrow as hospitals are closed..

https://stopcovid19.metro.tokyo.lg.jp/en/

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@smartacus

I think we have to learn to co-exist with the virus, modifying our behavior accordingly and maintaining good hygiene.

I assume that the battle will end up settling with this "cohabitation" scenario. Just like we've done with many other extant viruses and pathogens. A lockdown may be effective to flatten or push back the peak within a manageable range for local healthcare system, in the hope of a vaccine development or herd immunity formation. It usually comes at large expense of socioeconomic resources.

Considering a large-size casualty under the settlement scenario, the lockdown strategy is easier for the public to accept, and may be "politically" correct. Whereas, without vaccination or mass immunity taking hold, a second wave or thereafter is quite likely and costly even if the lockdown onto containment looks successful for a while. So Abe is right to say our battle is more like a marathon. On that way, we need a sufficient stamina to minimize corona fatigue.

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There are a lot of self-prophets of doom and gloom concerning Japan up on here.How many of yous claiming credit for spouting the obvious? 

Coming from someone who hasn't yet grasped just how quickly 60 infections can become 900 deaths if handled poorly.

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@Pukey2

I don't want my elderly mother or other elderly relatives and friends to drop dead. So, no, I don't want to live with that. Otherwise, why else are so many countries in a state of emergency?

You're a bit mistaken. The tact of virus cohabitation alongside herd immunity would enable healthcare staff to put all scarce resources on to more risky groups of people namely elderly citizens. It would give more chances to save their lives.

About 80% get through with non-or mild symptoms and without particular care at hospital. After full recovery, they hold antibody, can become a firewall protecting their "weak" neighbors.

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So what's your maximum number of lives that can be sacrificed in order to keep the economy going?

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I would rather someone answered the question then down voting. If the economy is so much more important than lives, what is the number of lives that you are willing to sacrifice for the good of an ever expanding economy?

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There are a lot of self-prophets of doom and gloom concerning Japan up on here.How many of yous claiming credit for spouting the obvious? 

We state the obvious but there are clearly many not listening.

Look at how many infections there were in the USA a month ago and how many today.

Japan has been lucky so far. Let's keep it lucky.

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"Japan had seen a more gradual rise than the recent surge in much of Europe and the United States."

Direct quote from the article, so I guess Japan is special to Covid-19 than any other country in the world.

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Japan's corona response panel briefing:

"This contagion is one of the most easily transmitted in history. It kills! It severely damages the respiratory system! It can infect people and they can remain asymptomatic for 14 days while still able to spread it to all around them! It overwhelms health systems; clogging ICU units and depleting critical care supplies. The spillover cases invariably die as there simply isn't enough care available. Once it breaks out in the community the spread is exponential and virtually impossible to contain.....What do we do about it???" "Ideas?"

Abe cabinet: Reopen schools nation wide! Refuse testing to anyone who hasn't been to wuhan! Continue to ASK people to do what they've consistently demonstrated a total inability to do! Lie a lot...

Sound good!...

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Tokyo has confirmed 63 new coronavirus infections, a record daily increase, public broadcaster NHK reported on Saturday

But NHK also reported, that source of infection (40) was at Eisai General Hospital in Taito-ku, Tokyo,

https://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/html/20200328/k10012355481000.html?utm_int=news_contents_news-main_005

and Asahi also reported the same information:

http://www.asahi.com/ajw/articles/13252953

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@since1981

I don't think you're scare mongering.... just a bit economical with the real situation. Anyway, if anyone is interested, here is what really happens (from my own experience):

What you say about Ambulances and waiting is sort of true - if your condition isn't critical, then the Ambulance crew will try to find a Hospital that has the capacity to take you in. In Central Tokyo, this does mean you're sort of waiting in an ambulance for maybe 10-15 minutes (I speak from personal experience for myself)

If you are in a near-death situation the Ambulance crew (rely upon the Doctor with them to make that decision), then you will be taken immediately to the nearest Emergency room. (Again from personal experience).

As for the 2nd part of what you're saying... that's normal anywhere. Getting into a Hospital is the first step, in any emergency situation, once there, you can be patched up, and your situation assessed, should the facilities of a more specialist unit in another hospital be appropriate then you may be transferred there. We read about this happening all the time, Globally.

As for Will's ... each Country has it's own rules, but in general writing one whilst on your death's bed, is going to be hard to do, and Legally - if not Countersigned by a non-beneficiary who's willing to testify that you were at that time, not being pressured by anyone, and were of Sound mental health, your named beneficiaries may find that so called Will being invalid.

Hence, if you are concerned, best to plan ahead, and do things properly, Covid-19 will come and go, but you never really know when your own time will come.

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The report at around 19:30 was a 100 new cases.

Now at 21:59 it states 63...that is close to a 40% discrepancy.

What's up?

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Didnt see any reports on the severity of these peoples conditions.

Also, have the conditions for prc tests changed?

I was surprised they tested so many in the Chiba care center.

If they have, then might be a good idea to tell the public, causing unnecessary panic help nobody.

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Have they announced how many tests are taking place? 63 positives out of how many tests? After Fukushima most of the world has zero trust or confidence in the numbers they tell us.

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Be glad you live in country where so many people wear masks. Masks prevent people from touching their mouths and noses and more importantly lowers community spread as asymptomatic people are not spreading as many germs everywhere.

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@caliboy,

But we should send everyone to hospital to be tested

Its the only way we will all be safe.

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But we should send everyone to hospital to be tested

Its the only way we will all be safe.

All 127 million? Can you still get infected after you take the test? What about the supplies for the test kits? Are there enough? Should a healthy 20 old get a test? What about an 80 year with medical problems? Who goes first?

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I was surprised they tested so many in the Chiba care center.

Because a food service worker tested positive. The news reports are that 58 tested positive at the center.

https://english.kyodonews.net/news/2020/03/0cc448831bf0-urgent-58-people-infected-with-covid-19-at-welfare-facility-in-chiba.html

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The report at around 19:30 was a 100 new cases.

Now at 21:59 it states 63...that is close to a 40% discrepancy.

What's up?

I didn't hear anything other than 63 for Tokyo, and over 60 for Chiba. Overal, 173 confirmed cases today in Japan, according to this article:

https://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/html/20200328/k10012355251000.html

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@Caliboy

Funny how no one went to NHK site to find out the source of the increase was a hospital.

Why is the source important here? Not clear what point you are trying to make.

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Be glad you live in country where so many people wear masks. Masks prevent people from touching their mouths and noses and more importantly lowers community spread as asymptomatic people are not spreading as many germs everywhere.

Definitely but I wish they would ration them like Taiwan is doing. The same people keep lining up and buying all the masks first thing in the morning. They've also been slow to increase production.

https://world.wng.org/2020/03/how_taiwan_fended_off_the_coronavirus

To keep citizens from panic-buying face masks, the government began a rationing system that allows each person to buy several masks a week from pharmacies (and now online), ordered 60 new production lines for masks, and banned the exportation of masks. Today Taiwan produces 10 million masks per day.

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Why is the source important here? Not clear what point you are trying to make.

The source is important because now they where the infections are coming from and they can trace and test all the contacts and contain the outbreak. The surge in infections over the last three days has come from hospital. 40/63 is 2/3 of the outbreak is from the hospital.

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Overall, 173 confirmed cases today in Japan, according to this article:

Yes that is correct. But break the numbers down by sources

173

58 positives from the center in Chiba.

40 from Eisai General Hospital in Taito-ku

75 from the rest of Japan.

So about 60% of the cases are coming from two sources. Which is good news, because now they know the sources, they have good chance of containing the outbreak and bringing the numbers down.

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@Caliboy

If you look at the numbers for Tokyo, you can see they rarely test anyone on Sunday (day off for most doctors in Japan). I wonder if they tested more today so they can take their day off tomorrow...

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China has the data. Knowledge is power. I would look at China, Korea, Italy and analyze the numbers. Sorry to say this but from I’ve read of the deaths in China, more of the deceased were smokers.

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@Caliboy

The source is important because now they where the infections are coming from and they can trace and test all the contacts and contain the outbreak

Got it, and valid point. Contact tracing seems to be key to the Japan response so far and is likely a major contributor to the relatively low impact of covid to date. I hope they keep this up. But contact tracing alone won't be enough to keep a lid on this.

The surge in infections over the last three days has come from hospital. 40/63 is 2/3 of the outbreak is from the hospital.

You've lost me here. There have been around 140 in the last 3 days in Tokyo. 63 is only today. Don't get creative with your statistics.

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The number of confirmed cases is pointless! It depends on how many people you are testing! Dough!!

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You've lost me here. There have been around 140 in the last 3 days in Tokyo. 63 is only today.

Yes, that is correct, 2/3 of todays. But the outbreak was center in and around the hospital when a nurse tested positive, so 2/3 of the 140 around 93 new cases can be traced back to the hospital. That still leaves 47 cases left. Around 20 of those cases are Japanese coming back from North America or Europe. That leaves 27 cases that still needed to be traced.

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@Caliboy

What about the rest of untraced cases?

authorities have been unable to track all the contacts of more than half of the latest cases

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So about 60% of the cases are coming from two sources. Which is good news, because now they know the sources, they have good chance of containing the outbreak and bringing the numbers down.

They don't know the "sources". They know a couple of places where the disease has gone through the whole building. They can now try to stop further spread of the disease into and out of those buildings - or even just evacuate them. How the disease got in, and how far it spread out from those buildings isn't necessarily known, or going to be, especially if tracing and testing is done in a half-arsed fashion.

There will be other facilities in Japan right now that would yield dozens of positive test results, but without more willingness to find and test, we're not going to know that until this problem is much larger than it looks right now. Until each of those places is found, the disease simply spreads. And spreads. And spreads.

Explain again how "I don't see a problem" works?

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It was just a matter of time. No one is immune.

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I’m shocked that Japan is shocked that the virus is spreading quickly.

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Fukuoka reported yesterday 6 new cases. I knew this would happen....

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proxy

Your comment probably explains why the numbers have not shown up so quickly. One source of transmission has been better controlled. However, human to human or human to surface to another human contact may be another source of transmission. This might take longer to occur.

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This coronavirus will spread whatever we do. The key is to slow down it as much as possible to keep the health system afloat.

STAY HOME!

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Japan has been very lucky because its mask culture and social distancing except in supermarkets but people behind was wearing masks

not like in US or Europe where they mock people wearing masks

who is the real idiots now.

Korea is a mask culture too but there numbers spiked up because of the cult group who didn’t practice social distancing but their numbers

so all of you who said wearing mask don’t work were dead wrong. I mean dead wrong

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Japan has been very lucky because its mask culture and social distancing except in supermarkets but people behind was wearing masks

Masks don’t stop the virus.

not like in US or Europe where they mock people wearing masks 

who is the real idiots now. 

Once they start doing the testing of everyone like they do in most countries I have a feeling the idiots might be.

Korea is a mask culture too but there numbers spiked up because of the cult group who didn’t practice social distancing but their numbers

They're not doing that either, watch every TV live news program or entertainment program, go to the parks, go to the malls, what distancing, where? I don’t see it anywhere like in other countries.

so all of you who said wearing mask don’t work were dead wrong. I mean dead wrong

https://www.deccanherald.com/science-and-environment/masks-gloves-dont-stop-coronavirus-spread-experts-814838.html

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Mask dont stop virus how do you know Dr. strange?

Wearing masks and gloves as a precaution against coronavirus is ineffective, unnecessary for the vast majority of people, and may even spread infections faster, experts said Tuesday. While near-total lockdowns have been imposed in Italy, Spain and now France, the World Health Organization's advice has remained unchanged since the start of the global outbreak: wash your hands, don't touch your face, and keep your distance.

https://www.deccanherald.com/science-and-environment/masks-gloves-dont-stop-coronavirus-spread-experts-814838.html

you are idiot, not believing that masks don't help , look at U.S and Europe.

So you know more than the people at the CDC and WHO?

What TV, what program, why don't look at CNN, you see anybody wearing masks in New York, LA, Italy, France, 

On Japanese TV everyone is still clustered together. They’re not taking it seriously. Most countries don’t do this practice anymore.

compare to Korea and Japan,

Korea tests, Japan doesn’t, they have an idea and at least getting it more under control as far as the spreading is concerned, in Japan, they’re guessing, hoping, without testing, how would you know either way? Don’t drink the Kool aid, please.

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STAY HOME PEOPLE.

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Masks don’t stop the virus.

That's not exactly correct. Masks aren't 100% effective at stopping the virus, that doesn't mean they are 100% ineffective at stopping the virus. Masks do actually stop the virus - sometimes.

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bass4funk,

Mask helps both transmitting and stopping viruses. if you don't think so, just look at U.S , 100k now, not a mask culture there,

People in Japan and Korea have been a mask culture for long time , do you understand this in basic level, it doesn't take CDC , WHO to understand if you are sick, wear a mask so you dont spread whatever you have to other folks,

and wear mask, any sort of medical grade , doesn't have n95, n99 level, will block majority of viruses coming at you. yes, it's better than nothing.

ok, since you mentioned Korea, let's talk about them,

Korea was prepare from day 1, when Wuhan started, they the government, ramped up productions of test kits, or stopped all mask export, legal or illegal , They had experience from MER and has a special virus/disease Dept. /a minister level, ( not in Japan) to handling all future viruses such as SARS, MERS, and C19.

Also using their highly developed IT infrastructure and developing a mobile app to monitor infected people and also monitor their movements to other people and places they visited, using both locational app. and video surveillance , they, the government was able to track people's movement who they met, where they visited. This type of infrastructure can not be building in a year, they have been developing and refining this type of program past 20 years, after the SARS events. so all the positive comments about Korea's handling of this virus was not a great idea, quick turnaround, this is a 20 year program, they developed...20 years.

For now, the Japan,

do you think, they going to speed up testing because you ask them to or you screamed, i don't know if you know anything about this administration , they will not listen to anybody, they will not ask for help, they will not bend, they will not listen to their people, other countries, especially foreigners living in Japan.

They will handle this mess as they see it, do you think they really care about common folks, do you?

In fact that the bureaucrat is leading this fight against C19 tells you something, they don't want to hear from the experts,

they don't have special dept./minister level, virus/disease for past 20 years, they just made a special group now,

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http://www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-52015486

Coronavirus: Why some countries wear face masks and others don't

Whether everyone going outside of your house should wear mask is debatable. The sad truth is there is not enough masks in the world now so the supplies must be prioritised to the front line people fighting the virus.

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If you look at the numbers for Tokyo, you can see they rarely test anyone on Sunday

The bottom line is whether the health care system is being inundated with influenza like symptomatic patients ? That is one report and perspective I have not heard from NHK. However authorities have tried to fudge the numbers in a ploy to keep the Olympics on track or tried various scarttershot approaches to keep citizens at home or whatever, the one factor they cannot prevent is people coming to hospitals with severe respiratory and cardiovascular issues.

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Mask helps both transmitting and stopping viruses. if you don't think so, just look at U.S , 100k now, not a mask culture there,

Everybody is doing that now and the numbers are still increasing. Yes, for somethings it can stop certain germs, saliva or other bodily fluids to a point, but overall, it’s not doing anything to slow this virus down. Again, start testing everyone, do mandatory autopsies and I guarantee you, the numbers of infected is higher than you think. Remember, it’s a virus, it doesn’t care if you’re an American or Japanese.

People in Japan and Korea have been a mask culture for long time , do you understand this in basic level, it doesn't take CDC , WHO to understand if you are sick, wear a mask so you dont spread whatever you have to other folks,

Ok, so we don’t need to listen to the experts, I understand. The Japanese figured out this themselves. Guess I shouldn’t about the slow numbers ticking up.

Korea was prepare from day 1, when Wuhan started, they the government, ramped up productions of test kits, or stopped all mask export, legal or illegal , They had experience from MER and has a special virus/disease Dept. /a minister level, ( not in Japan) to handling all future viruses such as SARS, MERS, and C19.

But Korea has been monstrously aggressive when combating this virus, no other has been vigilant and on it as Korea, Japan on the other hand, not at all.

do you think, they going to speed up testing because you ask them to or you screamed, i don't know if you know anything about this administration , they will not listen to anybody, they will not ask for help, they will not bend, they will not listen to their people, other countries, especially foreigners living in Japan.

Yeah, we kinda figured that out. I remember 9 years ago when the government said that after the Fukushima incident and with Tepco badly damaged, there was no need for fear whatsoever from the nuclear reactors, the area, people, wildlife and food are all safe and look what happened. But as you said, when the world tried to warn Japan of the impending danger growing, they refused to listen.

They will handle this mess as they see it, do you think they really care about common folks, do you?

Dunno, why do they still talk about the Olympics as if this is a topic that’s needs its highest priority even during this pandemic?

they don't have special dept./minister level, virus/disease for past 20 years, they just made a special group now,

This is just bad all away round.

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Not everyone is wearing masks. On this train carriage alone there are half a dozen people without masks out of 32 passengers. It would be great if people would stop making things up because it is not helpful.

Nobody is saying we should do a Donny and ignore the experts. That’s not even a logical inference from this:

People in Japan and Korea have been a mask culture for long time , do you understand this in basic level, it doesn't take CDC , WHO to understand if you are sick, wear a mask so you dont spread whatever you have to other folks,

Smh.

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@Caliboy

That still leaves 47 cases left. Around 20 of those cases are Japanese coming back from North America or Europe.

Aren't the airport people counted separately ?

   日本で感染が確認された1724人のうち、JAPAN

   ▽東京都は362人、TOKYO

   ▽厚生労働省の職員や検疫官、それに空港の検疫で感染が確認された人などが合わせて41人です。AIRPORT

https://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/html/20200328/k10012355251000.html?utm_int=news_contents_news-main_006

In this article, they talk only about 3 travelers and that 29 people declared positive people on 28th are from the hospital, which bring the total to 40 including the day before tests. There is 23 untraceable cases as of now :

63(positive) - 29(hospital) - 3(travelers) - 8(contacts) = 23

https://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/html/20200328/k10012355481000.html?utm_int=all_side_ranking-social_001

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Coming from someone who hasn't yet grasped just how quickly 60 infections can become 900 deaths if handled poorly.

IF being the operative word.

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@Chip Star - where can I obtain a mask ?

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Look at Korea they test everyone. Even at the airport every passenger coming into the country is tested and monitored

but they don’t have lock Down . Shelter in place except Daegu

in Seoul, you can move freely but if you don’t wear mask, people will tell you or yell at you to wear one. They will probably give you one. You can get 2 masks a week from pharmacy there

so you idiots think you can go anywhere without a mask , like New York or Milan, think about how the virus is spread. It’s you talking. Sneezing coughing in public , leaving viruses on the surface.

masks don’t work. Ask Korea why test anybody everybody , why then they wear mask. Ask them.

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Chip Star:

Nobody is saying we should do a Donny and ignore the experts. That’s not even a logical inference from this:

Can you leave the derangement syndrome at the door? Donny is taking advice by a team very respected experts who you can see at every news briefing.

More than you can say about bumbling Biden who is hiding in his Corona bunker making truly hilariously inept home videos. Google for some and have a laugh.

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Donny is taking advice by a team very respected experts who you can see at every news briefing.

I’ve seen him repeatedly contradicting the experts. And calling the whole thing a hoax. And you try to say we’re the ones whom trump has deranged. Yeaaaaaah, right. Got it.

And the sound of his facepalm reverberated through the silent streets of the quarantined planet.

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