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Japan, please relax your testing requirements and test more people so we can have a clearer idea of how serious the situation is. This reluctance to call a state of emergency partly because you don't have the full picture. Extra testing would result in a more informed public and government, which in turn will lead to everyone making better decisions.

39 ( +45 / -6 )

What is the increase in both numbers and percentage?

Compared to CNN, it’s difficult to get accurate updated information.

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@mountaingrill

They have chosen the mitigation path. They ain't gonna test people who don't have really serious or life threatening symptoms. It is what it is, unfortunately.

We are all part of a giant experiment where they are hoping that the result will be herd immunity.

We will out soon enough whether the gamble worked or not. If works we have little to worry about and life will be back to normal in time for the Olympics. If it doesn't......

24 ( +26 / -2 )

I just hope Tokyo avoids what is happening in NYC.

26 ( +29 / -3 )

*If one feel unwell ( with possible CV symptoms - with which everyone is educated by now ), and ask for a CV testing , doctors look through you like you are transparent. It is clear that they are continuously not allowed to do so.*

It is unfortunate that people who have possible symptoms cannot avoid reaching a non return health crisis / irreversible heath damage and /or death, by having access to early testing.

In JP there's NO place STILL where one can test. With all the state of the art hospitals and available medical drugs and trained dedicated doctors, DENIAL and dishonesty continue. As many countries with a political and economical agenda, many people will be sacrificed by this shameful cover up. Disgraceful. What is the value of a human life ? 0 to the politicians and GOV's.

19 ( +25 / -6 )

It's hard to believe tomorrow will be April. What's happened to the past three months? I remember being at a party last New Year's Eve, everybody wishing each other a happy New Year; some wondering what sort of a year 2020 would be; others saying "bring it on." I wish we could fast forward to the end of the year. I feel like we will all age a year but somehow will have lost it from our lives.

19 ( +26 / -7 )

Testing takes 5 minutes now with Abbott's new FDA approved virus test kit. No reason not to test whoever wants it done. What are you waiting for, Mr. Kato?

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-27/abbott-launches-5-minute-covid-19-test-for-use-almost-anywhere

21 ( +24 / -3 )

I'm still not convinced mass testing is the way to go. Millions of people will flood hospitals and clinics because they have a cough or fever. Those facilities are needed for people with other illnesses. And if I did go to a clinic and was tested positive, it would be mild and I would self-isolate, which I do anyway if have a bad cold. More importantly, being tested positive doesn't determine the infection route, from whom I got it, or whether I infected myself.

I support a soft lockdown. By soft, I mean without police or military on the streets using heavy-handed tactics that are being used in other countries. But a lockdown must come with an initial time period, a clear purpose and with as little disruption to the national economy as possible.

-13 ( +19 / -32 )

From NHK.....Good on Koike for pushing Abe to stop dithering and do something .

Koike urges Abe to decide on emergency declaration

Tokyo Governor Koike Yuriko has urged Japan's prime minister to decide whether to declare a state of emergency to deal with the coronavirus pandemic.

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smartacus. The most effective regime in dealing with suppressing both the infection rate and death rate is South Korea and a major component of the strategy was mass testing. The second most effective was China where being a dictatorship the were able to impose an early an rigorously enforced lock down.

The hazard of Japanese hospitals being swamped is due to the current law whereby the designation of the virus requires hospitalisation. Change that in line with everywhere else which require isolation at home for mild cases and only hospitalise those suffering life threatening symptoms and a lot of the problem goes away.

12 ( +16 / -4 )

My country being torn apart by this virus, I was to be with my Mom in her final days with Stage 4 Blastoma and was to fly out of Tacoloban with my new wife to be with her for the last time this May. (All off) As this virus ravishes through America. 56 Massachusetts residents have died and 5,752 have tested positive for COVID-19 as of Monday. Many of these infected right around my area. Poor souls. I fear I will not be able to be with my Mother in her final days and at least look her in the eyes and tell her she was the best Mother a son could have. This situation is so depressing me. My anger towards China and government grow wildly out of control. If I were younger I would go back in to service and do all I can. Can not even fly home now. Can not get married in the Philippians this May. Please Japan DO THE RIGHT THING!

China has to be held accountable for this pandemic it has brought on the world.

My heart breaks for not just my situation but for those suffering.

We will hit the one million mark soon. And how many countless dead? Who knows the real figure. We will never know. God what have we done to offend thee so much?

Sorry to vent readers. The struggle is real.

17 ( +30 / -13 )

@slickdrifter

So sorry to hear of your mother's and your situation. Stay strong mate.

19 ( +20 / -1 )

How many days after all the schools open (next week) will one need to close due to students and/or staff being infected?

My guess is two.

15 ( +18 / -3 )

@Tamanegi.

One course mate. *strength. If you have a higher power. Pray!

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englisc aspyrgend

You are missing my point. You say change the law to enable mass testing and then people what mild symptoms stay home. But I'm asking where will the testing be done. The health care system cannot handle millions of people turning up at clinics and hospitals to be tested. Even drive-through testing in the U.S. turned chaotic.

For myself, I don't need to be tested. If I start coughing or develop a fever, I will stay home (I'm doing that now anyway through teleworking).

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@smartacus

This reader brings up a valid point. I say turn every pachinko in to a hospital. Remove every machine and replace with a testing booth. A bed if it get bad enough. Can not watch little steel balls ping around when your sick now can you? Can you? Great question. Where will the testing be done?

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"A center for disabled people in Chiba Prefecture found seven more infections on Tuesday, bringing the total there to 93, Kyodo News reported"

I take it all those that have had contact with those infected or have been to the center in the last 14-21 days are now self isolating.

If they're not then the Chiba government and Japan at large are not taking coronavirus community transmission seriously at all.

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@Slickdrifter

Sorry to hear about your mother, man. No point in blaming China for this outbreak though. The virus is the result of our changing relationship with our habitat and coming closer and closer into contact with animals that carry novel viruses and also the way we factory farm.

And the reason is spread so quickly is to do with the amount of cheap international travel we undertake all over the world.

So the predicament we are in was inevitable, man. And another one will just come after this one, unless we change the way we interact with nature and stop reduce international travel to saner levels.

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@Tora,

All valid points you make. Deep study is needed. To emotionally compromised to come up with something witty or valid to come back at you with other than. I guess I am just looking to blame something.

I suspect you saw this as I did? It talks allot about your points you are making.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7nZ4mw4mXw

All I can offer up really. Be safe Tora.

P.S. Hope I got the link right.

5 ( +6 / -1 )

On a different site, Tokyo reported 78 positive cases today, another ominous record for 1 day. PM Abe, quit dragging your feet!

5 ( +7 / -2 )

Where will the testing be done?

How about all of those Community Centers that exist in almost every neighborhood? Or, the larger Centers in every city? School gymnasiums? Medical tents that can be set up in parks?

The options are many.

9 ( +11 / -2 )

A director of the country's top organisation of doctors has said the government should declare a state of emergency before it's too late.

It is already too late, the horse bolted the barn long time ago.

Ramp up the rest and the scary infection rate will be evident.

State of emergency at this junction won't stop the virus now that it is widely spread in the country just like lockdown didn't stop it but rather curb the spread.

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smartacus ,

South Korea showed us the best way to test and to handle it.

Many countries follwoed its example.

It is obvious that there's no need to do it in hospitals.

JP has no excuse for being passive;

As always, avoiding to confront a problem honestly and to take actions,

will need to be paid x10 ore more,

sooner or later .

11 ( +13 / -2 )

And Tokyo has only tested 2,986 people as of 11:00 of March 30th...

https://stopcovid19.metro.tokyo.lg.jp/en/

4 ( +6 / -2 )

Slickdrifter....feel for your situation mate, hang in there buddy.

Economy Minister Yasutoshi Nishimura said Japan was not yet in a situation that required a state of emergency, triggering a potential lockdown, although the situation was precarious.

"We're just barely holding it together," Nishimura told reporters. "If we loosen our grip even a little, it wouldn't be surprising to see a sudden surge (in cases)."

Fgs...everyone knows you can,t hold it together anymore... put some pressure on your boss, like Koike is doing and get Abe to bloody stop procrastinating, these are human lives you are playing with you fools.

4 ( +6 / -2 )

When is enough going to be enough?

Seriously. Think about it.

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Smartacus.

But I'm asking where will the testing be done.

Germany is carrying out 500,000 test a week and soon it will be 200,000 test per day yet their medical system is not overwhelmed and death rate low.

It is just pathetic not trying and only giving excuses.

Ok lets forget about Germany, Why can S.Korea do it and Japan cannot.

It is as if we are flying without radar, really worrying indeed.

15 ( +16 / -1 )

Mass testing of anyone who wants it isn't necessary but those displaying any associated symptoms should be tested immediately without question. The government has made themselves look really bad over this, the blatant withholding of info and indecisiveness really fails to show leadership when people really need it. They will find it hard to come back from this.

How this government fails to use the tools and technology available, not only in this emergency but every other that Japan has, is beyond me. They really are displaying what a bunch or self serving, entitled muppets they really are.

6 ( +7 / -1 )

And the fear mongering JT posts continue...

-23 ( +5 / -28 )

The hazard of Japanese hospitals being swamped is due to the current law whereby the designation of the virus requires hospitalisation. Change that in line with everywhere else which require isolation at home for mild cases and only hospitalise those suffering life threatening symptoms and a lot of the problem goes away.

A regular person can't even get the test unless they've had a fever for 4 days so at that point hospitalization is probably necessary. Then there are those that came back from overseas or had contact with the infected, but they probably can't be trusted to self-isolate anyway. If/when the cases go up I'm sure they will have to tweak the hospitalization rules, so no point in calling it a hazard now.

-5 ( +1 / -6 )

While number is going up, ratio seem to be moving down.

However the number of tests is still around 300 I believe.

We will have to look at more test results to really even get a glimpse of the situation.

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Below is a commentary from a lawmaker regarding a possible lockdown. She is in denial. Even if an emergency is declared, a lockdown would end up being an extended version of the current response or "asking for self-restraints." Having more to do with legal limits and technicality. Don't expect too much.

新型コロナで交通遮断による都市封鎖は法的に可能か? --- 山尾 志桜里

http://agora-web.jp/archives/2045153.html

2 ( +3 / -1 )

So instead of testing, they're going to ask Docomo for numbers?

Watch out the US, you won't be holding that top spot for long.

10 ( +12 / -2 )

Some of you are missing the point. Testing asymptomatic as well as those with mild symptoms whether the flu or not or corona or not will give numbers to statisticians to see how dangerous this really is.

10 ( +11 / -1 )

If I am insured and I have the money I and my family should be allowed to be tested.

It was good enough for those Hanshin Tigers players who had only mild symptoms.

6 ( +10 / -4 )

So Japan wanted to hold the Olympics under these circumstances?

10 ( +12 / -2 )

https://www.mhlw.go.jp/stf/seisakunitsuite/bunya/0000164708_00001.html#kokunaihassei

FYI, the media never reports this, but as of yesterday (3/30) there were 1820 confirmed cases and only 1060 of them are Japanese. Maybe a combination of people coming in from overseas and gaijin demanding their test.

-18 ( +0 / -18 )

It's so frustrating that this government refuses to act, refuses to look at what is happening to other countries that made the same mistakes. refuses to look at what countries that are curbing the spread are doing, and generally just act like they are paralyzed.

Make the call. Lock down. Take a month of financial pain, and move forward. Please.

7 ( +10 / -3 )

I think a lockdown will probable happen by the end of the week, as the title says "the pressure is building"

It might take a few more days of procrastination, then someone will say to Abe S an lets do it. But only as a trial over these days and only in Tokyo, then back to work as usual while they go over data. Or some other halfhearted lockdown. I might be wrong, hope I am. I think almost every other country was too late in locking down. Australia seems to be doing well, pretty strict lock down down under, numbers have slowed. Hope it stays that way for them.

6 ( +8 / -2 )

Dear Mr Abe, and Mr Nishimura, the time has come to get your heads out of the sand, today 70, tomorrow 140, the day after tomorrow 420, and by Sat. it will be 1260 new known infections and 3 times that number (3780) of Unknown infections. with NO testing being conducted yet means that thousands of the so called SUPER Spreaders are infecting others at the rate of 60 to 80 people EACH.

5 ( +9 / -4 )

What exactly do we mean by “lockdown” anyway? To suburban California families with big back yards, where everybody has a car, means a very different thing than Japan where people don’t even have a square meter of green grass, and depend on trains for everything. Trains are the lifeblood of Japan. In California, many people have never been on a train.

Or, what about India where so many people live on the street?

People are casually throwing the term “lockdown” around. This is a country by country issue. Don’t force your cultural image down other people’s throats.

-11 ( +6 / -17 )

A lockdown is imminent but do not panic yet. Half of the recent daily cases are linked to clusters and imported cases. A lockdown will get into effect when an overshoot happens because there are too many untraceable cases. We will not get into a NY scenario for now.

-13 ( +1 / -14 )

Universities have their own epidemiologists and they are taking matters into their own hands by ignoring the government and pushing their own semester start dates back. All experts outside the government I've heard from say it's more serious than is being let on

https://www.kindai.ac.jp/news-pr/important/2020/03/019714.html

10 ( +10 / -0 )

A thinktank estimates a lowdown impact on GDP; if imposed for about a month (during April 1-24) would lead to the loss of 5.1 trillion yen (47 billion USD). If mposed across Tokyo as well as neighboring prefectures (Saitama, Kanagawa and Chiba), there would incur the loss amounting to 8.9 trillion yen.

東京「封鎖」でGDP5兆円減 日本経済、急激に縮小―第一生命研・新型コロナ

https://www.jiji.com/jc/article?k=2020033000584&g=eco

I do value life-saving and public health. A deep recession also life-threatens many people regardless of age or health condition. It is a security and public health issue.

-12 ( +2 / -14 )

On a different site, Tokyo reported 78 positive cases today, another ominous record for 1 day. PM Abe, quit dragging your feet!

Nah, just quit.

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@memoryfix

Have you ever been to to California? It's a bit more than the OC.

Do you not realize that India IS ON LOCK DOWN.

The virus DOES NOT care about culture. The longer Tokyo avoids lock down, the more people die.

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@Tora

The virus is the result of our changing relationship with our habitat 

“Our”?

I think the use of this word needs to be examined and especially its applicability questioned in this time of pandemic.

As the American newsman/commentator Paul Harvey was fond of saying, “It’s not one world.” People are NOT the same wherever you go.

-4 ( +2 / -6 )

The government said it would seek data from wireless carriers, such as statistics on crowd traffic, to help gauge the effectiveness of the voluntary request.

Stop f..ing around with bureaucratic stuff like seeking data from mobile carriers....it takes 10 minutes to find & ' study ' plenty of pics on social media that shows you whether or not the voluntary request to stay home by Koike last weekend was effective.

Germany is carrying out 500,000 test a week and soon it will be 200,000 test per day yet their medical system is not overwhelmed and death rate low.

It is just pathetic not trying and only giving excuses.

Ok lets forget about Germany, Why can S.Korea do it and Japan cannot.

Exactly right !

13 ( +14 / -1 )

I heard from a private student that some KGs in Tokyo have been contacting front line health workers to say their kids are being excluded from attending due to concerns regarding their parents possible contact with infected patients.

Made my blood boil. 

These people need extra support in these difficult times. I was shocked angered and disgusted.

Please share as much as possible but keep details close to your chest.

We have contacts that we can subtly leverage.

It made my blood boil when I heard.

please hashtag support for from line workers

5 ( +5 / -0 )

With limited testing for the virus, doubts linger in Tokyo about how widely it has spread

All things absurd Japan and business as usual. Still, curious as to why there hasnt been an increase in deaths like in the US, even after more exposure here since January.

Also, Im not hating on Chinese, I actually sometimes find them more easier to get along with than Japanese. What I dont understand however is why this year the virus made the jump from bat to chicken? to human, after centuries of wet markets and exposure. Why this year? They are saying mutation, but that seems odd.

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Gregarro

Cool off a little and start from the beginning. What do you mean by “lockdown”? What limitations are entailed by it? For example, would the shinkansen run? Inter city trains?

How about a time frame? After you have a picture of what is involved in a “lockdown”, what kind of situation do you envision where such lockdown would be ended? For example, trains running again.

-5 ( +2 / -7 )

@memoryfix

I'll "cool off" when people stop dying due to incompetence and ignorance.

Lock down means no one leaves thier house unless absolutely necessary.

It really sounds like you lack a basic understanding of how viruses work.

9 ( +10 / -1 )

So now that’s 500 total cases ( or rather notified, serious, tested cases if you prefer) in a population of 14,000,000.

“Not great...Not terrible”

-2 ( +1 / -3 )

The US usually takes awhile to get things right, and there is usually struggle, but when they commit to something, the go hard at it and you can see results (with the exception of shootings)

Japan, however, likes to wait. They watch the outside, struggle and some ridicule it, then they copy/modify the results of that struggle. Ive seen them do allot.

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Gregarro, I don’t think you understand what would be involved in a lockdown in Japan.

And you didn’t answer, what would be the signal to end such a lockdown? What kind of “good news”?

-5 ( +1 / -6 )

Trains are the lifeblood of Japan. In California, many people have never been on a train.

Would have to disagree a bit, I dont really need a train to go to the market, perhaps to work but many old Japanese live a simple existence of aparto room to supa to pachinko to gusto the back to apato. maybe a sit in the park, sip a chu hi and watch the wildlife (pigeons, crows, occasional rat) and that wraps up their day

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TheLongTermer

”perhaps to work, but many old people live a simple existence”. Right. Lucky them. But the country which makes that possible cannot live that way.

And again. My question. For how long? Until..dot, dot, dot.

-4 ( +1 / -5 )

Outside world loves to praise Japan and its trains, but actually they can be hell. Prefer green routes into work, riding an ebike, could open up a whole new industry. Of course nobody expects this pandemic to influence them to change that, but who knows

4 ( +6 / -2 )

What I dont understand however is why this year the virus made the jump from bat to chicken? to human, after centuries of wet markets and exposure. Why this year? They are saying mutation, but that seems odd.

This is exactly what I don't understand! In the U.S. they're too busy blaming Trump but your questions are the ones that need to be answered. Something does not add up. Google Dr. Shi Zhengli, head virologist at Wuhan's BSL-4 (bio-safety lab). She and her team had discovered over 300 coronavirus sequences in bats. So why did the virus make an appearance now? Why this year?

-1 ( +3 / -4 )

Outside world loves to praise Japan and their trains

So they should. Tokyo in particular has one of the best train systems I’ve ever seen.

Are you saying it doesn’t deserve praise?

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@tmark

Today 70, tomorrow 140, the day after tomorrow 420, and by Sat. it will be 1260 new known 

More likely to happen

Today empty restaurant, tomorrow empty restaurants, day after tomorrow empty restaurant and by Sat. it will be bankrupt restaurant.

-3 ( +3 / -6 )

It seems as though Abe and his cronies, like Trump and his consiglieri, are inexcusably ignorant of the term "exponential" and can not comprehend what the dire consequences of their ignorance will ultimately mean for many people. These clownish leaders are acting like groundhogs who can't see their own shadow and think the economy can carry on as usual. I've not seen my shadow, but I can read the writing on the wall and I'm not coming out for another 6 weeks.

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“Economy Minister Yasutoshi Nishimura said Japan was not yet in a situation that required a state of emergency”

why is the Economy Minister involved oh I forgot it’s a business...

12 ( +12 / -0 )

Compare this situation of not testing more people to the prosecutions by the Japanese justice department. They seldom take cases to court that are not slam-dunk convictions.

Japan has this obsession with being certain about something before acting.

They need all the rubber stamps of approval before a deal is made.

They need the meeting notes before a meeting is held.

They need the class print outs before they attend a college lecture.

Yes, it's cultural, and it is a time-honored trait of this country. But it has its time and place!

This time though, I'm so tired of excuses about hospital beds, and I'm really starting to be scared for all of my in-laws as most of them live in metropolitan areas.

What's the right number of confirmed cases before Abe can say "stay home or else!!"

For those of you who think "testing of mild cases is a waste of beds" based on hospital bed count, you fail to realize that in less in a month they're going to be full anyway. BUT, this could have been slowed down!!

Stop defending this administration!!

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Japan, however, likes to wait. They watch the outside, struggle and some ridicule it, then they copy/modify the results of that struggle. Ive seen them do allot.

Evidently, they’re not doing that great of a job compared to the rest of the world, something they didn’t correctly copy.

Outside world loves to praise Japan and their trains

Train system is definitely one of the best, but only if you like taking them and only if you like living in a mega city like Tokyo....especially now with this virus running rampant.

I’ll stick to driving.

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@ smartacus

And if I did go to a clinic and was tested positive, it would be mild

Would it? Mild can rapidly progress to serious or life-threatening, no matter who you are.

I would self-isolate, which I do anyway if have a bad cold.

What's your plan if you can't breathe - continued self-isolation? Because those are the people who have been flooding the hospitals in cities across the world.

More importantly, being tested positive doesn't determine the infection route, from whom I got it, or whether I infected myself.

Hardly a profound observation. It's obviously not testing for any of those things, but it does provide data that can be used in a wider context. At the moment, Japan is opting to fly blind instead. That brings the risk of massively increased infection rates - especially in the continued absence of social distancing - and the sudden emergence of a problem that is already out of control.

Tokyo has exceeded 500 cases. New York was at 421 confirmed cases on July 13. Now, less than three weeks later, it's closing in on 30,000 while the US has almost 170,000. The UK had 460 confirmed cases on March 11. Now it has 22,500.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/13/new-york-state-now-has-the-most-coronavirus-cases-in-the-us-as-new-cases-jump-30percent-overnight-to-421.html

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-51839106

There's no special set of circumstances that makes Japan or its people immune to a mass outbreak of this disease. It's highly infectious, extremely dangerous, and handwashing and masks are insufficient to stop it spreading. And now the danger signals that preceded mass outbreaks elsewhere have all been seen.

9 ( +10 / -1 )

It's alarming to watch the Japanese dilly dallying about this, and it's not going to end well I fear. In a high density urban environment like Tokyo you have a disaster waiting to happen unless you are fast and decisive, which is the key.

Enforced isolation for returned travellers, no more clubs, pubs, Izakayas, restaurants, gyms, trains etc etc etc.

Lockdown is essential

5 ( +7 / -2 )

Dear Mr Abe, and Mr Nishimura, the time has come to get your heads out of the sand, today 70, tomorrow 140, the day after tomorrow 420, and by Sat. it will be 1260 new known

Tomorrow 140, when the vatican is testing more than Tokyo. I don't see reported cases reaching 3 digits, the outstanding image of the country will be tarnished which is unacceptable better sacrifice taro and hanako than the country image.

1260 new known cases when the number of test rarely reaches 3000.

4 ( +5 / -1 )

It is all about "money" vs "life". The Japanese government at the moment thinks money is more important. It is taking a gamble that the virus will not infect too many vulnerable Japanese that will overwhelm the health system like Italy and Spain. It hopes it can wait this out.

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@memoryfix

I see your still in the 'mystical, magical Japan' phase of your time here. Japan's economy is going to be hit by this regardless. The question is, how bad?

Japan can shut down now and take a hit for a month to six weeks OR, it lose a significant percentage of the population suffer economically for at least a year. That's IF the virus doesn't mutate and this starts all over again. Japan is doing very little to flatten the curve and it will suffer the consequences.

To answer your question. the lock down ends two weeks after the number of cases stops increasing every day.

12 ( +13 / -1 )

If you follow a little bit what is going on worldwide, there is a strong probability a big outbreak is happening NOW in Japan.

This coronavirus is everywhere already and is highly infectious.

Scapegoat hunting is just a waste of time, anyone in your neighbourhood or even YOU might be contaminated.

Stay home as much as you can and when deemed needed keep social distancing.

9 ( +10 / -1 )

Outside world loves to praise Japan and their trains

Train system is definitely one of the best, but only if you like taking them

I don’t like using trains but it doesn’t change the fact that Tokyo has one if the best train systems in the world. Liking it has nothing to do with it.

That said, this isn’t the time to have them filled with commuters. I’ve been working from home for two weeks and the company I work for is a lumbering dinosaur.

I’m a bit of a dinosaur myself but I was tach-savvy enough to take home a company PC, install Zoom and do most of what I usually do. I’m sure there are plenty more who can. If the government isn’t going to take the initiative, companies can do their bit.

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Meanwhile in China their filthy wet markets are still selling bats. After all this countries need to ban Chinese nationals from entering and contaminating the environment .

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That said, this isn’t the time to have them filled with commuters. I’ve been working from home for two weeks and the company I work for is a lumbering dinosaur.

I’m a bit of a dinosaur myself but I was tach-savvy enough to take home a company PC, install Zoom and do most of what I usually do. I’m sure there are plenty more who can. If the government isn’t going to take the initiative, companies can do their bit.

Fair enough.

Meanwhile in China their filthy wet markets are still selling bats. After all this countries need to ban Chinese nationals from entering and contaminating the environment .

I was shocked to hear that, not even a full 2 months and they’re back in business and then when another outbreak evolves again, China will claim it’s not their fault.

-1 ( +3 / -4 )

Japan can shut down now and take a hit for a month to six weeks OR, it lose a significant percentage of the population

Out of interest what is a significant percentage of the population?

23000 died of suicide after the bubble burst, is that a significant percentage?

Unfortunatly either way people are going to suffer and die its finding the path of least bad

Any drastic action comes with significant downsides.

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@memoryfix

For how long?

Incubation period is 14 days. We wait at home for two weeks and let those who will get sick be sick without the risk of them spreading the virus. After two weeks, those who are not sick can go back to their lives. Those who are sick, stay at home or go to the hospital.

5 ( +5 / -0 )

I have lost two very great people in this turmoil, one was my best friend in my life a big loving loved larger than life itself personality loved by many who loved many, taken through stress of this whole drama lost jobs closing of business etc which brought on a massive heart attack, absolutely gutted. I hold some people responsible for what has happened, namely those in govts and media spreading fear .

I really hope the world learns from this the price paid by many is not worth the free travel and tourists spouting in spewing coughing and sneezing their filthy contagions over the rest of us.

4 ( +7 / -3 )

The politicians and JMA trying to spin is not working.

mass testing doesn’t mean you can just go there anytime you want. Even in Korea , you need to have been contacted with the infected or have underlying symptoms or visited a place where the infected stop over

yes It will put pressure on the hospital This is pandemic

this will be the biggest mistake by a Japanese government and JMA past 100 years

5 ( +6 / -1 )

Yeah, great one of my friends just reported full on Corona symptoms...Thanks Dear Leaders for your ineffective measures.

1 ( +3 / -2 )

Wear masks, that is all I can say.

-4 ( +2 / -6 )

Ab is paid to take responsibility, and the time to act is now.

0 ( +1 / -1 )

Hi folks some great info here but for the punch line jump to 25:35

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7nZ4mw4mXw

1 ( +1 / -0 )

@carpslidy

Today empty restaurant, tomorrow empty restaurants, day after tomorrow empty restaurant and by Sat. it will be bankrupt restaurant.

No need to bold.

Restaurant will have to adjust : take out and delivery. (doing it itself should help).

I will suggest to go for creating a group with other shop in the area and create special offer. Kitchen will not appear out of the blue.

The can go for something like :

Liberty offer : 2 meals a day, anytime order

Planer offer : 2 meals a day, order before 12:00 and 18:00

Supper planner offer : 2 meals a day, one delivery, order before 12:00

the purpose of the planner will be to have the ability to plan delivery route

Adventurous offer : 2 meals a day, one delivery, no order.

the purpose is to increase work balance in between restaurant (reducing risk f one with lot of order and another without any order)

Cook will cook, ground staff will be in charge of delivery and managing order and communication in between restaurant throught any line/skype/... . Regarding money I guess, the best will be to have a base income for each shop out of the benefice + a part calculated in regard of work provided.

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What I don't understand is : the virus has come to Japan 2 months ago, actually hospitals are not filled with people in serious condition (thanks God), so why if I read the news seems like that corona virus arrived a week ago in Japan ???

so after 2 months 80 people were confirmed infected in a single day on a population of 13 million people is a dramatic situation?

Don't put in the discussion the "exponential" factor cause after 2 months an infection with an "exponential factor" would mean hospitals in critical condition like in Italy or NYC...

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Japan and Italy, the two countries with the oldest populations, duh. It's a no brainer what's going to occur soon and this government has been really inept from the start in handling this soon to be major catastrophe. Remember when just about everyone else stopped all flights from China but Japan only stopped the flights from Wuhan? Instead of getting an early grip on it which is vital, they've done practically nothing. "Don't go out on the weekend"?! That's not going to do jack squat! They've had a month of seeing what's going on in Italy and Spain where 900+ people die in a single day. I will feel no sympathy for Abe and this government when the fallout occurs.

Meanwhile the packed out pachinko parlors are full, ho hum, "it won't happen to us"...

New rice cooker, check. Two months of food, water, and supplies ready for extended lockdown, check...

8 ( +9 / -1 )

Like I said, two weeks or less until Japan is the next US, and all thanks to the 'leadership' putting the Olympics first and ignoring the problems the nation was facing. Now they're sticking to the new fiscal year schedule, same as they insisted on sticking with the Olympics timeline, and people are riding packed trains when they should be forced to stay at home. Well done, government! Get ready for this being the new reality. Three days ago it was the highest tally recorded. Yesterday was the new highest. Today is the new highest. Tomorrow will be the next, and the day after the next after that. Japan had its chance and declined to take it. Too late now.

Stay safe, and stay home if you can, people.

5 ( +8 / -3 )

Cognac said "so after 2 months 80 people were confirmed infected in a single day on a population of 13 million people is a dramatic situation?"

I am not worried about absolute number in a single day, but a trend, and readiness to respond. If Japan can trace down immediately those people who contacted the virus carriers, then test can be performed to make sure that everything is under control.

Pandemic isn't the only thing that terrifying, it is the broken system supposed to control the pandemic that is terrifying.

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So if Japan has many thousands of infected people and 12-20% are serious, maybe 6% critical and 2% die..... Where are the full hospitals? Where are the dead? The entire medical system is in on the deception?

Or maybe... Japan is managing the situation? Keeping a balance between protecting those at risk and having an as normal life as possible.

Wash your hands, avoid close contact in big groups and if you are ill..Stay home!

-5 ( +5 / -10 )

As I said many many times, besides testing, Japan does almost the same thing as Koreans and Chinese do, wearing masks, washing hands, and not whining.

-3 ( +3 / -6 )

Also, Im not hating on Chinese, I actually sometimes find them more easier to get along with than Japanese. What I dont understand however is why this year the virus made the jump from bat to chicken? to human, after centuries of wet markets and exposure. Why this year? They are saying mutation, but that seems odd.

Why 2003 with SARS? Or 2013 with H7N9? Or 1997 with H5N1?

There is nothing especially unexpected or puzzling about zoonotic infection, nothing especially unusual about them becoming epidemic/pandemic, and nothing especially unusual about them emerging (or first being observed) in China. For a variety of reasons, China happens to be a particularly suitable environment for these to develop. H7N9 was and remains a particular concern, but equally, there's no reason to assume the next pandemic would have any connection with it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Influenza_A_virus_subtype_H7N9

3 ( +3 / -0 )

Just out of interest does anyone know how many people are admitted for influenza complications on an average day.

This would help to understand these corona figures.

0 ( +2 / -2 )

Osaka / Nagoya are not LDP controlled areas so they show their Corona cases ...Mie /Gifu are LDP strongholds so hide their cases at Abes command...

all lies here in 'democratic' japan.

4 ( +5 / -1 )

Focus upon keeping yourself and your fellow Neighbours safe.

When you do unfortunately encounter the odd Weirdo who wishes to go around coughing on others unapologetically and on purpose, .. then if you are able to do so... find a way to prevent that worthless individual from harming others... I see no better way to end one's life, than to Sacrifice your own purposely to spare many others - Hero's such as our Medical practitioners are made of that stuff... and facing this reality Daily!

1 ( +1 / -0 )

Don’t mention California If you never put your foot in CA soil. Not everyone has big yard and pool Much be watching too much TV.

it’s not lock down, it’s shelter in place which mean you can walk around your neighborhood, walk your pet, go to super market or hospital

but you can not hangout in the park , beach which idiots were doing before police get involved

8 ( +8 / -0 )

Akie:

wipeout, there are more than 200 viruses that infect people. China happens to be big nation, with huge population. Every 5 people, there is 1 Chinese. If you are trying to picture Chinese as sick and filthy

Thats not the point. Tell us that many countries have food markets like this. I doubt that, even in Singapore and Taiwan which are culturally Chinese:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGTIs9fvkUA&feature=youtu.be

2 ( +2 / -0 )

WilliB, freedom isn't your exclusive privilege. Chinese deserve it too.

-2 ( +0 / -2 )

If Tokyo locked down, then at least the spread of the virus to other surrounding cities might be slowed down. Now that Olympic is postponed for a year, Japan must put full effort physically and financially and all ways possible in combating the pandemic. Complacency is not the answer. No testing doesn't mean no virus!!

3 ( +3 / -0 )

@CoconutE3Today 03:04 am JST: or you do a total lock-down or you take a combination of other measurements to slow down the spreading. I think that a total lock-down of Tokyo for at least a month the least is hardy possible as is in any other large Japanese city.

When taking a look at the corona crisis in Italy, you see that many elderly living in relative tight spaces with their children and grand children. This is quite similar with many families in Japan.

Avoid close contact with elderly family members, washing hands and cleaning surfaces which are touched a lot a lot with care, keep distance (2 meters) wear masks and let familiy members if they show flu like symptoms separate them...and test test test!

0 ( +0 / -0 )

FYI, Johns Hopkins is maintaining an interactive map of confirmed cases/deaths worlwide. It does a pretty good of presenting updated data and charts for each country.

2 ( +2 / -0 )

Abe = tone deaf....He is too much of a corporatist to do the right thing

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Unfortunately, we may experience what Sweden is, by taking such a laissez-faire approach to this pandemic:

https://twitter.com/cmhrrs/status/1244710002251763716

1 ( +1 / -0 )

bass4funk:

I was shocked to hear that, not even a full 2 months and they’re back in business and then when another outbreak evolves again, China will claim it’s not their fault.

I know! And it's not even Easter yet!

0 ( +0 / -0 )

Dear Media, I would like to kindly ask you to publish scientifically described facts. Yesterday 68 new cases today 78. You say it is an increase. Please study statistics before you publish such a panic releasing nonsense. First you need to know how many tests were carried out each day in Tokyo. The proportion between test numbers and test results yield a percentage of rate, then different days can be compared and we can make an assumption of increase, decrease or remain.

Further why don't you publish parallel the cases of influenza infections and death rates with your coronavirus stories in Japan? You would be ashamed to see that meanwhile about 20000 death from influenza per year versus your 50 plus coronavirus could not become a headline story anymore.

As Roald Dahl once said writers can kill people with their writings. You, at the moment, are doing this to ordinary and vulnerable people who have lost their jobs and their businesses because you can now sell your coronavirus stories as biscuits. Shame on the media! Go back to university and study hard in order to contribute to the society!

-2 ( +0 / -2 )

Abe-san is being towed around by his cherry blossoming partying wife.  His motto do as I say and not as I do.   If Abe needs to man up and stop listening to his wife and speak up for all that live here as it stands now you only hear from the Tokyo governor who has no real power and who is doing her best to get the message out to stay home.  I have a lot of respect for her, standing up for all that live in Tokyo like myself and others outside of Tokyo to try and get people to stay home and all the while she is dealing with a male oriented world daily so kudos to her.

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Dear Media, I would like to kindly ask you to publish scientifically described facts. Yesterday 68 new cases today 78. You say it is an increase.

On Tuesday , over 200 new cases in Japan....is that enough for you or you need more?

I think that a total lock-down of Tokyo for at least a month the least is hardy possible as is in any other large Japanese city.

And yet every other major citiy can do it, from Europe to the US to India....Only Japan can,t...BS...Abe get bloody moving.

5 ( +6 / -1 )

The death toll in Japan from corvid-19 is now nearly 2% of last years influenza outbreak.

So calm down, take a deep breath and stop the blind panic.

Wash your hands, avoid close contact and large gatherings ...you’ll probably be OK.

-7 ( +1 / -8 )

The death toll in Japan from corvid-19 is now nearly 2% of last years influenza outbreak.

This is dangerous disinformation. Covid-19 (not "corvid") is more lethal than the flu, especially for the wealthy, and we know that the Japanese government has been undertesting. In a society with so many aged people, this is especially dangerous, but even younger people are affected.

Not panicking is right. Do not panic buy. Buy enough for yourself and your family, do not buy any more, or you are taking food and supplies out of someone else's hands.

3 ( +4 / -1 )

The death toll in Japan from corvid-19 is now nearly 2% of last years influenza outbreak.

So calm down, take a deep breath and stop the blind panic.

Wash your hands, avoid close contact and large gatherings ...you’ll probably be OK.

Lots of people like me are worried not about themselves but about relatives / friends in vulnerable categories.

Thats not blind panic.

5 ( +6 / -1 )

@Caliboy

Of course, the media didn't tell you most of the new cases were imported.

But you know thanks to ...

The best we have is place of residence and all of them get "investigating". No information of supposed travel. You were already being told the people tested by quarantine staff at border have their separate count.

https://stopcovid19.metro.tokyo.lg.jp/en/

https://www.mhlw.go.jp/stf/seisakunitsuite/bunya/newpage_00032.html

1 ( +1 / -0 )

I'm sat in a hospital right at this moment. The staff are absolutely fantastic. Kind, friendly, helpful.

Some of the customers are utter morons, however. Rude, demanding, ignorant.

Sometimes I'm ashamed of the way my fellow countrymen behave.

1 ( +2 / -1 )

Over a full 2 months of the infection openly loose in Japan, we have yet to see an "exponential" spread.

Why hasn't the last 2 months resulted in an "exponential spread"?

I'm betting we'll have the same conversation next month.

-1 ( +2 / -3 )

Just spoke to my grandfather in the uk he is going insane stuck in the house.

He wonders why he lost his brother fighting for freedom in the war when governments and their peoples willfully give up those freedoms so easily.

0 ( +2 / -2 )

I'm betting we'll have the same conversation next month.

I hope so. I’m not confident though.

4 ( +4 / -0 )

Mysterious how the infection numbers spiked just as soon as the Olympics were postponed...

2 ( +2 / -0 )

I'm sat in a hospital right at this moment. The staff are absolutely fantastic. Kind, friendly, helpful.

Some of the customers are utter morons, however. Rude, demanding, ignorant.

People who need healthcare in hospitals are patients, not "customers".

0 ( +2 / -2 )

Apologies Sneezy. English isn't my first language. I meant 'patients', in my mind, but my fingers are quicker!

The point still remains about rude patients in hospitals. Please be kinder to hospital staff

3 ( +3 / -0 )

I'm betting we'll have the same conversation next month.

I agree that 2 months ago people here were posting all kinds of apocalyptic scenarios.

So, what’s your prediction for the numbers in a month’s time?

We need some tangible metric here. You do tend to post in very general terms.

0 ( +0 / -0 )

No problem, PP. I agree entirely with your sentiment. Doctors, nurses, and hospital cleaners are doing hard work in difficult circumstances and deserve our respect.

1 ( +1 / -0 )

WHO and medical statisticians please answer why in last 40 years or so you simply added most corona virus cases to seasonal flu statistical data: in an ordinary year in US 20000 death, in another worse year 60000. No one really knows how many deaths were caused by influenza and how many by corona virus or other viruses. At the moment around 1000 death in NY. So calm down, we are all bewitched by a statistical switch of counting. And stop dreaming about vaccines, for such a mutant virus like corona it is impossible to make a safe vaccine. Rely on your good immune system and follow basic sanitary instructions you have learnt in primary school.

-2 ( +0 / -2 )

Just came back from the local pub, and yes "lockdown" is now a word. If the populace is being prepared by the talking heads on the idiot tube that means it is coming. Disheartening.

1 ( +1 / -0 )

The time for a lockdown was last month, when it was at least still theoretically possible to identify a parge percentage of carriers and their contacts. Not testing asymptomatic cases has led in large part to the situation we are facing. Triage instead of treatment, and the criteria for treatment are likely to be highly subjective. Ergo, good luck if you are both foreign and infected.

0 ( +0 / -0 )

Could I had been wrong on my previous analysis of the situation?

In the past days I did some more medical reading and worldwide monitoring of news.

I don't know why but something seem strange. I'm wondering is everything is just a show and deaths are overstated inflated or made up. A friend doctor in JP had only 2 patients with CV.

Remember: JP had amazing flux of tourists from CH the whole month of November , December 2019 , January 2020 and a part of February. It should be a 2nd CH by now...

+I came across a medical paper which state that 80% of the tests are false positive and that those who got the flu vaccine test 100% for CV.

I don't know why, but need to pause a couple of days and consider that maybe JP and other countries like it , know something that we, the masses, don't...

Could this be a cover up for a bigger event coming? A war or something else?

Whatever it, is none of these possibilities are happy ones.

What's going on?

We need to reset and think.

1 ( +1 / -0 )

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