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out of control.

16 ( +30 / -14 )

Will it surpass 2000?

6 ( +19 / -13 )

Smelling some honesty finally.

1 ( +20 / -19 )

The fact that the second story in the feed says “shrine prepares to welcome visitors...” says it all, really.

34 ( +40 / -6 )

Extremely troubling number. Disturbing but not unexpected when people are gathering en masse in markets, train stations etc.

Izakaya, markets and restaurants MUST be shut down, or at least capped to a handful of people. Letting this virus "run wild" will decimate Tokyos hospitals and economy a million times more than shutting d oiwn for 2-3 weeks.

17 ( +26 / -9 )

No problem in my view. Think about the total population in the Tokyo Yokohama area. Drop in a bucket.[

Plus no rise in severe cases. Walked 12.6 kilometers today. Only heard one ambulance.

-32 ( +17 / -49 )

well if you’re gonna break a record in style you do it like that on the eve of 2021. Happy new year y’all

-3 ( +16 / -19 )

That obviously still doesn’t mean that the virus is no longer underestimated. By the way, can that viruses now fly or swim longer distances? No, I don’t think so. There must be someone responsible for letting the newer strains from UK and South Africa also intrude in numbers. Unbelievable.

6 ( +13 / -7 )

Of course the government won't admit that their Go to campaign was one of the catalysts of this number. This is what happens when the economy has priority over lives. Looking at it now, what were the economic benefits of this campaign compared to what is going on now? An emergency economic relief package with a stay put stipulation would have been much better served. Now all we have are the worst of everything, stay put with no economic relief and a medical system ready to burst at the seams.

22 ( +27 / -5 )

We may need China to save us in Japan with their new vaccine.

-13 ( +9 / -22 )

It comes after several people in Japan were confirmed to have been infected by new variants of the COVID-19 virus, first detected in Britain and South Africa.

Are those carriers return travelers in quarantine or not? If they were not in quarantine then things are a bit worrying.

-4 ( +5 / -9 )

Was about to buy some last minute things at a grocery shop, located inside a local mall.

Had to leave and give up on it.

There were queues of people in many of the stores that sell NYE related products/food/drinks.

And naturally, as we witness on a daily basis NO SOCIAL DISTANCE whatsoever in those queues.

Numbers will keep increasing, even knowing testing numbers will most likely remain steady, and low.

19 ( +25 / -6 )

Was about to buy some last minute things at a grocery shop, located inside a local mall.

Had to leave and give up on it.

There were queues of people in many of the stores that sell NYE related products/food/drinks.

And naturally, as we witness on a daily basis NO SOCIAL DISTANCE whatsoever in those queues.

Numbers will keep increasing, even knowing testing numbers will most likely remain steady, and low.

7 ( +12 / -5 )

How man tests?

-2 ( +9 / -11 )

We may need China to save us in Japan with their new vaccine.

Sounds like a joke, but I think Japanese government should just swallow their pride and do exactly that. Especially if they want the Olympics.

-2 ( +8 / -10 )

Very unfortunately, this was totally expected by the so-called “doom-and-gloom” crowd as far back as the spring. They were criticized by many, but a lot of the posters here knew this was coming. I’d obviously be happy to have my predictions be wrong and see the situation trending downward.

I’m just left to wonder where the warm-smiling NipponGlory and other sunnysiders are these days. I hope they are starting to grasp the severity of the situation. More importantly, I hope all of you here in Japan and abroad reading this are keeping well and doing your best to stay well on the last day of this tragic 2020.

14 ( +21 / -7 )

Was out today at a home diy center and a supermarket. Double masked as usual. I estimate that 10 percent of men had the mask under their nose, making it meaningless and shop staff said nothing. Add that to insufficient social distancing, people still going to restaurants and bars and it's no wonder it's 1300. Allow for al 90 percent error in the tokyo datum and it's probably closer to 13,000 cases. Don't forget to listen to the 'urges' before you go out with a group of pals , some probably not even wearing a mask, for your suga steak'.

11 ( +17 / -6 )

There is still no mention of when the vaccine will start. Israel, Bahrain, Canada, UK, Singapore, US have already started. What is the hold up here?

21 ( +25 / -4 )

There is no way they can host the Olympics if they continue to dilly-dally

20 ( +25 / -5 )

This is sad. It is not a drop in the bucket ... it is an infestation that is now being spread around the country at alarming rates. It's not funny, and it is not a joke. I do believe most of the urban-centred people are following the protocols and being responsible, but the yesterday there were hoards of cars with numerous out of province plates up here in the mountains.

We all know, that is where the virus is coming from and I'm sure we will see ridiculous numbers in the next 14 days. Thanks selfish city people! You shine in times like these!

Stay home and stay away... please.

2 ( +11 / -9 )

Yes, it will surpass 2021 people in January, because not enough people are not willing to give up their holiday season habits.

The "Go To Travel" did fine this summer. So they got cocky and added "Go To Eat" and "Go To Event". That's when things went astray.

Clubs and bars will be packed tonight and these party people will then rest up at home with their families.

But don't worry, we will still have the Olympics this summer.

9 ( +16 / -7 )

Start to think positive. 1300 is a baby number compared to the millions in the Tokyo/Yokohama area

-27 ( +12 / -39 )

Start to think positive.

Good for you.

-3 ( +6 / -9 )

Start to think positive. 1300 is a baby number compared to the millions in the Tokyo/Yokohama area

The amount of tests is usually also a baby number compared to the millions of people. Don't you get it?

19 ( +25 / -6 )

There is still no mention of when the vaccine will start

It starts in February.

-21 ( +3 / -24 )

SandyBeachHeaven

No problem in my view. Think about the total population in the Tokyo Yokohama area. Drop in a bucket.[

Plus no rise in severe cases. Walked 12.6 kilometers today. Only heard one ambulance.

Sadly though, the hospitals can only also accommodate a drop in the bucket - not the whole population of Tokyo Yokohama area. 59 deaths yesterday, making it the second worst day so far.

Where did you walk, by the way? By the river/sea? In the forest? Surely no ambulances there.

I live a few km from a hospital taking care of covid-19 patients - ambulances all day long.

11 ( +22 / -11 )

Sadly though, the hospitals can only also accommodate a drop in the bucket - not the whole population of Tokyo Yokohama area. 59 deaths yesterday, making it the second worst day so far.

This is the key point. Hospitals in the Tokyo area are ill-equipped to deal with large influxes of patients. In particular, the ICU capacity ranks below many developed countries.

The hysterical types who were talking about bodies on the streets of Tokyo back in March are unhelpful, and the politically motivated boneheads calling this just another flu are a clear and obvious waste of space. Ignore both.

Keeping an eye on hospital capacity makes sense here.

6 ( +14 / -8 )

Predictable. Probably an increase in tests before holiday, but we'll have to wait for the full data.

2 ( +5 / -3 )

It starts in February.

Extremely unlikely. They said the other day that they need to do Phase I and II trials still. A Phase II trial takes a coupe of months.

7 ( +14 / -7 )

Every photo that JT posts of Tokyo crowds, there is at least one middle aged guy not properly wearing a mask.

Tokyo has zero social distancing in most places and with the weather aiding the spread of the virus then the only way is up....

12 ( +16 / -4 )

Vaccine will start in February? Not sure I believe that but why so late?? Inoculating at least 70 percent of an entire population with a two dose vaccine is a complex process. No time to waste here. It should already be going into arms as it is in many other countries.

8 ( +10 / -2 )

The blame is on stupidity of Koike,Suga and Abe. Too late a a lot will die soon from their ignorance

17 ( +19 / -2 )

@ Gumbo

There is still no mention of when the vaccine will start

It starts in February.

The plan is that they start with testing end of Feb beginning of March on only 10.000 people (1万人) then only for hospital staff and clerks in middle of March (!) for 3.000.000 people (300万人) and the vulnerable 65+ and sick people will be late March early April (!!!) for 30-40.000.000 people (3000-4000万人). This is extremely late compared to developed country. And this is the best scenario plan submitted by the subcommittee.

https://mainichi.jp/articles/20201224/ddm/001/040/108000c

14 ( +15 / -1 )

stickman1760, I don't think February is slow or too late at all (if that is in fact when they plan to start vaccinations). My country Australia doesn't plan to begin until March, which seems to be about the same timetable for many countries.

My gut feeling about Britain, the U.S. and other countries which have already started vaccinations is that they hoping for the best. It's sort of jab first, ask questions later.

-12 ( +4 / -16 )

My country Australia doesn't plan to begin until March, which seems to be about the same timetable for many countries.

Australia, as you very well know, made a conscious decision to wait to see if there are any side-effects to the vaccines. They can afford to do that as the country is essentially virus free.

12 ( +16 / -4 )

Zoroto

Perhaps Japan is doing the same thing, waiting to see, plus doing clinical trials of its own. It is prudent to watch for side effects, especially with this new variant on the loose.

Another thing I find puzzling is that every other day at 3 p.m., when the Tokyo government has released the number of infections, they have given the exact number, number of tests and age groups. But not today. I haven't been able to find that info on any news site in Japanese.

-2 ( +6 / -8 )

Stupid government who care more about economic than people.

lock down for 2-3 months.

freeze all economy and open without any case.

go to trouble is the most stupid decision they took with abenomask.

nice idea to spread out Tokyo the virus

-3 ( +3 / -6 )

Perhaps Japan is doing the same thing, waiting to see, plus doing clinical trials of its own. It is prudent to watch for side effects, especially with this new variant on the loose.

Not with 50+ deaths per day reported, and undoubtedly actually higher than that due to lack of postmortems.

2 ( +8 / -6 )

Vaccinate as soon as possible! There are already at least three different vaccines out there with convincing data about safety and efficacy. Europe and US vaccinates already.

6 ( +10 / -4 )

On the 1st it'll be 2021 infections.

3 ( +4 / -1 )

Way too much fear around for a virus with a 99.5% survival rate

-4 ( +10 / -14 )

As I stated before to many - votes, public health experts were predicting 1500 by year end. So actually a little better than predicted. Also as previously stated...the hospital bed situation is manageable... well, in the big cities, a little more problematic in the wild inanka.

-7 ( +6 / -13 )

Hi Zoroto, I'M from Melbourne and yes we have has nothing for many days now until that stupid !!! in Sydney and Melbourne allowed travellers to come to Melbourne and although New years eve celebrations are cancelled in Melbourne you can bet the Virus numbers in Sydney and Melbourne will increase over the next week through lack of social distancing by a generation who think they are untouchable. I truly hope I am wrong but history over the past year has shown different. Happy New year to all . Please stay safe and look out for each other .

3 ( +5 / -2 )

Seems a little suspicious this number is from Tuesday when most hospitals are closed.

-2 ( +1 / -3 )

I truly hope I am wrong but history over the past year has shown different. 

Yes, there can be flare-ups. But with the quick-acting government, wide-spread testing and contract tracing, strong and enforceable laws, these flare-ups can easily be put out.

Japan lacks in every one of the things I just listed.

4 ( +10 / -6 )

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@Fighto!

79% at home, markets at 1%.

California, NY, and other states are closing down with fines attached, yet the spread continues uncontrolled. Florida has no lockdown and no records except "try to wear a mask and have some common sense," and as a result, Florida has the lowest transmission anywhere, even with Disney World. Shutdowns only kick the can down the road.

BTW--there are now three vaccinations available, and Japan has contracted for delivery already, but there is nothing but crickets from the government, with some mumbling that distribution may start "sometime in late February."

Stop picking on the most vulnerable and stop the threats of meaningless "lockdowns." Just start the vaccinations.

-4 ( +5 / -9 )

@smartacus

"Perhaps Japan is doing the same thing, waiting to see, plus doing clinical trials of its own. It is prudent to watch for side effects, especially with this new variant on the loose."

New variant is protected against by all current vaccines. So far, 2.1 million doses administered., Five light allergic reactions, and one serious reaction to a person who had a history of serious allergies. Taken care of in 2 minutes with an Epipen. Six out of 2.1 million?

Negative incidence ratio of 0.000002857142857. Give me my jab. I have a better chance of getting hit by a bus or a taxi in the Ginza.

7 ( +11 / -4 )

I may have to take a trip to the US soon to get the vaccine.

5 ( +9 / -4 )

I walk in major hubs. Only one ambulance this morning. If you live next door to a hospital, of course you will hear more. I do walk past two large city university and city hospitals. One ambulance between 8:30 am and 11:14 am.

-13 ( +6 / -19 )

Might be a pretty basic question but I'll ask anyway. What's the population of Tokyo for the purposes of reporting here? Is it Tokyo city (something like 14 million people)? Or the greater Tokyo area (35 ish million)? Just trying to get an idea of positive cases to number of people.

5 ( +9 / -4 )

Too many selfish people out and about, going to restaurants, etc. Stay home morons

0 ( +10 / -10 )

this number is from Tuesday when most hospitals are closed.

Hospitals are closed on Tuesdays??

Are you perhaps getting them confused with hairdressers?

病院 vs 美容院?

10 ( +15 / -5 )

I’ll say it again - the people in charge of running the country, along with those in charge more locally, have had almost 12 months to put systems and rules in place to try and minimise the risks of this virus spreading. But still we see pictures like the one accompanying this story.

Its ludicrous.

Sure, our local supermarket has hand sanitizer at the door, and tape marking out 2 meter gaps at the checkout, but what’s the point of that when it’s a free for all all around the shop?

Im certainly not surprised at the number reported here. It’ll be interesting to see how many tests were conducted to get these 1,300 positives. Have they finally tested 20,000+?

6 ( +10 / -4 )

@HBJ

they tested around 10.000

https://www.fukushihoken.metro.tokyo.lg.jp/smph/hodo/saishin/corona1299.html

8 ( +10 / -2 )

@Mr Kipling

Also as previously stated...the hospital bed situation is manageable... well, in the big cities, a little more problematic in the wild inanka.

?? A 30% rise in Tokyo in the last 4 days, so ... you are WRONG! https://www.stopcovid19.jp/#Tokyo

6 ( +8 / -2 )

1,300 cases in a city with population of 40 million when including its metro area is not that bad, considering that the city is a overcrowded mess of rude, self-entitled, train loving commuters. As long as people from Kanto stay in their cesspool, the rest of the country should be fine.

-18 ( +5 / -23 )

Numbers were put up just to shock people into not going out! Easy to see number will be shoved down again soon to show us public what a wonderful job we are doing.

2 ( +11 / -9 )

For context 300 or so cases are asymptomatic from private testing centers

According to the local government

-1 ( +4 / -5 )

Might be a pretty basic question but I'll ask anyway. What's the population of Tokyo for the purposes of reporting here? Is it Tokyo city (something like 14 million people)? Or the greater Tokyo area (35 ish million)? Just trying to get an idea of positive cases to number of people.

Usually they’re updating the article a little later, and showing figures for Saitama and Chiba separately. Considering they are part of the greater Tokyo metropolitan area of around 38 million, I’d suggest this number is only for Tokyo prefecture.

1 ( +3 / -2 )

The story has now been updated to show numbers for other prefectures.

Thanks mods. I hope it didn’t sound like I was putting pressure on. Was just answering a question.

0 ( +4 / -4 )

Yes, 1300 in 15 million is not that bad. But one is already too much.

Too much disagreement in these comment sections. Respect other people’s opinions. Let people criticize the stupidity of this government. People are dying because of this virus and the ones who survive, they’re not the same anymore.

At the end of the day, we all want the same thing, right? To be safe and to keep our families safe. So play safe. Happy New Year.

1 ( +7 / -6 )

For context 300 or so cases are asymptomatic from private testing centers

Is your point that this proves that the pandemic is completely out of control on Tokyo? If yes, I don't think that comes as a surprise to most reasonable people.

3 ( +4 / -1 )

Some people don’t seem to realize that vaccines are the only way out of this. It’s not optional, it’s not let’s wait and see. It’s vaccines or total disaster. In Australia if you don’t vaccinate people it will come down there, kill people and wreak havoc on your economy.

-1 ( +3 / -4 )

Donated blood yesterday. Be sure to read Japanese well in order to understand so you can help with anti-bodies.

-15 ( +2 / -17 )

Japan is in big trouble with the oldest population on the planet things are going to get nasty...

11 ( +14 / -3 )

I wrote on this site both on Tuesday and Wednesday that the government was expecting the numbers to go over a thousand. How did I know this? My friend works in the local government and told me that the officials were expecting these numbers and that the numbers through rumors, only, were being under reported.

Keep safe everyone. I did all my shopping late, tonight. Trying to avoid the malls and or crowded places at all costs.

2 ( +7 / -5 )

I noticed that today here in rural western Japan the annual lines of out of town cars on their way to hometowns were totally missing. Roads happily quiet. Not all areas have stopped caring.

2 ( +3 / -1 )

1337 positive cases is a record but in reality it is not the reality, a city the size , congestion and wealth like

Tokyo is supposed to be doing 80,000 to 100,000 test daily to understand and mitigate the spread of the virus

the money and manpower is there, unfortuntately looking good is more important than the health of the people. The media and the so called experts should shoulder the blame for letting nationalism cloud their responsibility to act a check against the gov't. They have been a complete disappointment. Pity the population that look up to and believe them. It is like having your defense lawyer working with the prosecutors.

4 ( +6 / -2 )

https://stopcovid19.metro.tokyo.lg.jp/en/

Positive rate: 10.2%

of hospitalized patients: 2594 (+210)
-2 ( +5 / -7 )

There is still no mention of when the vaccine will start. Israel, Bahrain, Canada, UK, Singapore, US have already started. What is the hold up here?

May be waiting for the wasei vaccine. The saying "Pride comes before a fall" springs to mind.

-3 ( +1 / -4 )

@Zoroto

It starts in February.

Extremely unlikely. They said the other day that they need to do Phase I and II trials still. A Phase II trial takes a coupe of months.

Just to clarify- the article a few days ago which said all vaccines approved for use here will need Phase I and II trials was not specifically talking about Pfizer.

Pfizer has already conducted and submitted their Phase I and II data so that won’t hold up approval. Unfortunately, it still seems the current rollout schedule estimates health workers to receive shots by Feb to April, with elderly receiving shots after that. So the general population still has a wait ahead of itself. But it’s not because Phase I and II is lacking.

Pfizer Phase I and II press release

https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-release-detail/pfizer-and-biontech-supply-japan-120-million-doses-their

Estimates for vaccine rollout

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2020/12/25/national/japan-vaccine-older-people/

-1 ( +3 / -4 )

@Zoroto

Astra Zeneca also has been running their studies here in Japan

https://www.astrazeneca.com/media-centre/press-releases/2020/covid-19-vaccine-azd1222-clinical-trial-resumed-in-japan-follows-restart-of-trials-in-the-uk-brazil-south-africa-and-india.html

And it seems Takeda has been doing similar data collection in a partnership with Novavax and Moderna.

https://www.takeda.com/newsroom/newsreleases/2020/novavax-and-takeda-announce-collaboration-for-novavax-covid-19-vaccine-candidate-in-japan/

So... some good news! :)

0 ( +4 / -4 )

The article I saw said the vaccine for health care workers in Feb. Younger people gonna be waiting quite some time.

4 ( +6 / -2 )

So... some good news! :)

Thanks, let's hope. But I am afraid it would still be faster to fly back to our home countries to get a vaccine before it's our turn in Japan.

2 ( +7 / -5 )

Called it 2 weeks ago. No one is surprised.

Cant keep bars, hair salons and gyms open like they are. Gonna be 1000 soon.

1 ( +5 / -4 )

Yep, here it is! Out of control virus thanks to all the hard work of this pathetic government! But I am sure they are still collecting money for the Olympics!

7 ( +8 / -1 )

when you cram people into trains and have them shoulder to shoulder at Ameyoko what do you expect? I still see old men not wearing masks. What do you seriously expect?

6 ( +7 / -1 )

Gov Yuriko Koike told reporters that holiday shopping is apparently leading to bigger crowds, repeating her plea for residents to stay home during the holidays.

No one is listening. Government incompetence means people don’t believe the virus is an issue in Japan. It’s considered a “foreign” problem, and border restrictions are right so people everything is OK.

An enforceable ban is needed, only essential shops like super,arrest and pharmacies should have been allowed to open, and control the numbers of customers in the shops. I finally went out, in the snowy gale, at 7pm last night to get some milk and bread as I abandoned the previous two attempts due to horrible crowding in the shops.

4 ( +7 / -3 )

Anyone got a better map of where the clusters are ?

https://corona-map.smartnews.com/?utm_campaign=nativeshare&utm_source=android&utm_medium=coronamap

1 ( +3 / -2 )

The number is the result of 10,504 tests on Dec 28.

Do tests nowadays always run up to this number now?

Must be a mystery to many posters here who have always maintained that the govt keep the number of tests low to keep number of cases low to save face and the olympics.

So why are they testing at these levels now?

-6 ( +2 / -8 )

Pfizer has already conducted and submitted their Phase I and II data so that won’t hold up approval. Unfortunately, it still seems the current rollout schedule estimates health workers to receive shots by Feb to April, with elderly receiving shots after that. So the general population still has a wait ahead of itself. But it’s not because Phase I and II is lacking.

Pfizer Phase I and II press release

https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-release-detail/pfizer-and-biontech-supply-japan-120-million-doses-their

The controversy is about the requirement for companies to have local clinical studies in order to release a product in Japan. As evidenced by the date of the Pfizer press release, the data is the one they presented to the FDA in the US, not to the PMDA of Japan.

For the Japanese market Pfizer applied for approval this month, with clinical trials still ongoing and planned to finish by February next year according to the company press release.

https://www.pfizer.co.jp/pfizer/company/press/2020/2020_12_18.html

The problem is that this schedule is that it depends on having no delays, and for Japan that is unfortunately the exception and not the case. In the usual process any kind of result that is less than perfect (a participant getting an allergic reaction or even a completely unrelated health problem) can mean lengthy delays.

Hopefully this will not be the case, but with the famously overcomplicated approval process, there is always the chance first vaccinations will be much later than what has been already announced.

7 ( +11 / -4 )

Anyway, number of deaths is clearly a cause for concern now. Daily average seems to be heading up past 50. Worst period in May, worst daily averages were only around 20

8 ( +10 / -2 )

83 comments as of 21:45. People here really love to hear bad news.

-14 ( +6 / -20 )

From the first case back in January, it has been some fear mongering. This will not stop until covid is over, whatever the daily figures.

Figures remain pretty low for a country with 127000000 people.

Just go on with your life. Take your precaution and that’s it.

Big Pharma will save you with the vaccine

-7 ( +3 / -10 )

An intensive care specialist speaks; https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/furious-doctor-slams-people-not-23242688

As he says, it’s not the virus, it’s people that are the problem. The virus is spread by those not following basic rules; masks, distancing, hand washing. I agree when he says people who choose not to follow the rules have blood on their hands.

2 ( +6 / -4 )

ZorotoToday  07:28 pm JST

For context 300 or so cases are asymptomatic from private testing centers

Is your point that this proves that the pandemic is completely out of control on Tokyo? If yes, I don't think that comes as a surprise to most reasonable people.

My point is last month there was where very few private testing centers, so if you added 300 cases to the daily totals last month you would see the situation hasn't really changed.

You can label these numbers as out of control, whatever you want .

But a reasonable person would factor in the increased availability of testing, when making such statements.

-3 ( +4 / -7 )

But a reasonable person would factor in the increased availability of testing, when making such statements.

The reported test counts don't support your argument, unfortunately.

-1 ( +3 / -4 )

Immediate lock down totally. Save lives.

-7 ( +3 / -10 )

ZorotoToday  10:32 pm JST

But a reasonable person would factor in the increased availability of testing, when making such statements.

The reported test counts don't support your argument, unfortunately.

Private tests are not included in the test counts so all the private testing centers that have popped up don't report either testing numbers or results to the government. Testing numbers have increased dramatically but official testing has only increased slightly.

Those who test positive are advised to inform the local health authority who include their positive in daily counts don't count their test.

Thus your arguments about 10% positive rates etc are based on false data and lack of knowledge.

-5 ( +2 / -7 )

How many influenza cases this year?

It's a fair question.

-4 ( +6 / -10 )

How many influenza cases this year? 

It's a fair question

But is it a relevant question? What is your point?

3 ( +8 / -5 )

Unfortunately, the only thing that might change one's behavior is if someone close to them gets severely impacted. And even if that happens, it's not guaranteed. as I'm sure they can find some combination of things(excuses or data) to support their actions. After being told the same message everyday for 10 or so months, I'm sure anyone would be desensitized from it, it's just another number by now. The trend is what dictates your actions, the number itself doesn't.

On that front I don't necessary blame MSM or anything, it's their job is to report on it. But at the same time I don't agree with everything they report on, ie this strain or that strain... doesn't mean anything to the public atm... though could be a precursor.

-3 ( +1 / -4 )

Abe.. You can run but you can't hide.. in a word.. spineless.

Suga.. trying to keep an economy (what's left of it) alive, together with total disregard for the health of the people who ultimately keep said economy breathing.. in a word.. delusional.

Koike.. queen of meaningless signs, designer face masks and misdirected rhetoric.. no words..

Pride is killing Japan.

Unprecedented times call for unprecedented measures.

Stop the rot!!

Enough is enough!!

5 ( +7 / -2 )

Everyone predicted 1000 before 2021, and when they were right, they were right. By this rate it could well be 2000 by the end of the first week of 2021. BUT, the government still won't make any laws to fight it, or enforce any "suggestions". They won't cancel the Olympics, and they won't do anything worthwhile in combatting it. And so, they'll just keep asking everyone to do everything themselves, and not many will, and pray it'll go away or be someone else's problem. We just saw a 50% jump in one day, and that's with most testing centers closed. They worry about the hospitals now because they spent so much time worrying about prioritizing the Go TO Campaign, and the Olympics. Now we are all reaping what the government has sewn. And they continue to do nothing. Get ready for another declaration of emergency, which will have no teeth, of course. The only guarantee is that we'll be paying more in taxes to shore up the medical system as a result of the government ignoring what was going on under their noses.

2 ( +4 / -2 )

we are going to see a sharp rise in cases of emphysema

Occupational exposure to fumes or dust. If you breathe fumes from certain chemicals or dust from grain, cotton, wood or mining products, you're more likely to develop emphysema.

-5 ( +0 / -5 )

The number is the result of 10,504 tests on Dec 28.

Do tests nowadays always run up to this number now?

Must be a mystery to many posters here who have always maintained that the govt keep the number of tests low to keep number of cases low to save face and the olympics.

What, you think 10 thousand is a high number for a city of Tokyo,s size a year into the pandemic? Abe promised 200 thousand daily tests back in May....where are they ?

-2 ( +1 / -3 )

Not that bad relatively speaking.

-3 ( +2 / -5 )

Please Cancel the Olympics.

Put CARE over CASH for a greedy few.

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Thus your arguments about 10% positive rates etc are based on false data and lack of knowledge.

The 10.2% positive rate comes directly from the Tokyo gov website, I even posted the link. Not sure why your are questioning the data and the knowledge. Seems you lack the data and the knowledge here.

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Immediate lock down totally. Save lives.

At some point you have to admit China had it under control through the lockdown (Jan 23 2920). I don’t think we’ll have one until the deaths go up.

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ZorotoToday  06:46 am JST

Thus your arguments about 10% positive rates etc are based on false data and lack of knowledge.

The 10.2% positive rate comes directly from the Tokyo gov website, I even posted the link. Not sure why your are questioning the data and the knowledge. Seems you lack the data and the knowledge here.

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How many times must I explain the government website gives test numbers from tests conducted at government recognized hospitals and clinics.

Tests from pop up prc clinics are not recorded

. Only positives are included in the daily count if the patient informs the health authorities. (As the test was not conducted at an accredited clinic/hospital the test is not counted only the positive)

As I have said before I have no interest beyond when I will be able to next go drinking until late.

Just thought it might be useful for you to know.

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@carpslidy

I’m sorry but that’s incorrect - Phase I and II have already started in Japan “locally” months ago. The study in Japan is a combined phase I and II.

https://www.google.co.jp/amp/s/jp.mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idCNL4N2HB1NR

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These cases represent only a tiny fraction of actual infections, so I expect herd immunity to be acheived in the not too distant future, likely before vaccines arrive in Japan.

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Kay BowToday  11:34 am JST

@carpslidy

I’m sorry but that’s incorrect - Phase I and II have already started in Japan “locally” months ago. The study in Japan is a combined phase I and II.

https://www.google.co.jp/amp/s/jp.mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idCNL4N2HB1NR

Think your mistaking me for some else.

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These cases represent only a tiny fraction of actual infections, so I expect herd immunity to be acheived in the not too distant future, likely before vaccines arrive in Japan.

You have been expecting immunity to be achieved from months ago, you are still wrong.

Ignorance is a common reason to disagree with the opinion of experts, they are the ones that said this was a danger to take care, and that immunity is no way near to be achieved, they are much more likely to be right, since they have not been repeatedly contradicted by reality as your expectations have.

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m sorry but that’s incorrect - Phase I and II have already started in Japan “locally” months ago. The study in Japan is a combined phase I and II.https://www.google.co.jp/amp/s/jp.mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idCNL4N2HB1NR

Did you even read the reference provided? it is written there, by the company itself.

"Beginning" a clinical trial refers to the point where volunteers can be recruited, and depending on the trial it can takes weeks or months to get the necessary numbers. Pfizer itself announced in Dec/18 that they just applied for approval and that the combined clinical trial is planned to finish by February 2021, as long as no delay or problem happens.

If you contradict the company running the trials using old information that was not related to the approval in Japan, then the one in the wrong would be you. Nothing in your new link contradict anything I wrote, and it is much older than the one I provided.

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Virus,

So you beleive the 1337 cases detected in Tokyo is an accurate representation of the actual infections?!!!

I am basing my opinion on estimates by experts in places where testing was much more widespread than in Japan, and they estimated that the actual infection rate was 10 - 100 times the official numbers.

Considering the criteria for testing in Japan, an estimate of 100X the official number is realistic, and may actually be much higher.

So instead of just calling others ignorant and pushing for vaccinations, why don't you tell us what you think is the actual number of infected people.

I still believe herd immunity is not far off, and might be achieved before we can have access to the rushed experimental vaccines, thus making them pretty much useless...

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So you beleive the 1337 cases detected in Tokyo is an accurate representation of the actual infections?!!!

It is a valuable number when you take in account the testing system and it can help identify trends in disease growth. Which is why it can allow for predictions on how the disease will behave weeks or months in advance, that is hugely more than what you have been able to do based on zero evidence and just your baseless "expectations" that have been wrong repeatedly. Having a low confirmation number is not enough to just blindly assume any random number you would like to have of "real" cases, you can only say that you ignore what is the real number

Considering the criteria for testing in Japan, an estimate of 100X the official number is realistic, and may actually be much higher

That is a scientific statement that requires statistical proof with intervals of confidence, people that ignore the first thing about science think that any single variable can be compared between countries without taking in account every other variable, that is an obvious mistake. Present data that proves this is true or you will just have to accept you just pulled it out of thin air.

So instead of just calling others ignorant and pushing for vaccinations, why don't you tell us what you think is the actual number of infected people.

If you ignore something and use that as the base to infer something else, it is perfectly valid to criticize you for that, especially when you have been continuously wrong. At this point nobody is able to know (nor calculate exactly) the incidence of COVID-19 in the country, but none of the experts in the country expect a high percentage to be the case, much less with a daily increase of the daily number of cases which is mutually exclusive with the presence of any significant amount of immunity in the general population.

I still believe herd immunity is not far off, and might be achieved before we can have access to the rushed experimental vaccines, thus making them pretty much useless...

Yes, the problem is that your belief is not based on any data, and runs contrary to the opinion of the experts in the country that in general expect a much higher number of cases, deaths and long lasting health problems in the following months. That helps explaining why your constant expectation of immunity has been wrong until now and is extremely likely to keep being wrong in the future.

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Nobody seems to die anymore from this nonsense show... Suicide rates doubled... When you people wake up

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