Tokyo reports 17,864 new coronavirus cases; nationwide tally 95,208

Peak is over. Weeks stats is going down recently.

As a placeholder for all of the anti-vax rubbish that will surely follow in this forum:

“Japanese study suggests booster shots are effective against Omicron”

https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/news/20220217_23/

Max capacity Tests and case numbers are like my cars rev meter, redlining and valve bouncing down the street.

Numbers falling as predicted, severe cases and deaths will fall sharply in next few weeks.

There is no evidence of number manipulation by the government, it is a conspiracy theory.

but hey dont drink after 8pm this apparently increases infections...

Edgy, original stuff. Well maybe it was 2 years ago.

Everything is within expectations. They all chose no NoCovid and no ZeroCovid, so they by all logic of course get Covid and Covid above zero.

Elvis

The world is not black or white, people have reasons for what they do and it’s their private business. I am nit vaccinated but don’t discourage those having them especially the elderly, those with health issues and the obese.

Vaccines do not prevent infection or transmission.

Not living in fear is not necessarily anti-vax. I am vaccinated but am fully against any kind of mandate or discrimination of those that make different choices than me.

That is the same rationale from someone that says he is not a smoker but he do not support any kind of mandate or discrimination about people that want to smoke anywhere and anytime they want.

What it means is that your argument have no value against the justification for requiring vaccination in order to avoid an unnecessary increase of risk for others. As long as a preventive effect can be found then vaccines can be made a requirement.

There was also a recent Japan study that says Ivermectin shows an 'anti-viral effect'. Should it be used universally? No. Should it be an option, yes. as well a other therapeutics that have been recently released.

The "study" was the same old invalid "evidence" in cells exposed to doses impossible to reach safely in humans, it is not enough to contradict the evidence collected from actual clinical trials that demonstrate ivermectin has no effect in treating COVID, which is why it is unethical to offer it as an option, because the drug have well known risks that are not offset by any benefits.

Tested in Tokyo 2/14 is 20,111

If you don't start testing in significative numbers, there's no way of controlling the spread of the pandemic.

Vaccines do not prevent infection or transmission.

That refusal to admit what is fact and then deliberately posting such falsehoods is wrong (and trolling).

They reduce symptoms, not infections or transmissions. That's what the data shows, when interpreted correctly.

Numbers falling as predicted, severe cases and deaths will fall sharply in next few weeks.

There is no evidence of number manipulation by the government, it is a conspiracy theory.

I don't think the below article inspires confidence in the numbers that are released by the gov't

what a coincidence that it occurred in your city. 8 days 12,700 positive cases omitted from the numbers.

and part of the problem stems from the continuous reliance on fax machines to relay data.

大阪市、8日間で感染者1万2700人報告漏れ　入力追いつかず

https://mainichi.jp/articles/20220203/k00/00m/040/295000c

They reduce symptoms, not infections or transmissions.

False. They do the opposite; they reduce symptoms, infections and transmissions. You've been reading dodgy stuff again.

I have a friend at the kuyakusho who told me the government is deliberately manipulating the numbers to confuse Japan Today readers.

The numbers can’t be falling as predicted. You have repeatedly stated omicron isn’t that bad and EVERYONE will be infected. That still leaves over 100mill to go . News flash : omicron is the deadliest variant of Covid in Japan to date. A perfectly healthy teenager from Saitama with full blown symptoms went the hospital on 2/2 and was sent home . His parents took him back 3 times and his 5th trip was by ambulance. He died on 2/9. He was refused admission because the healthcare system and hospitals country wide are over stretched. Not my words . Direct quotes from 45 prefectural governors. I do hope the peak and plateau are near but I scientifically have my doubts. But further predicting that severe cases and deaths will also decrease is a bold move. Lmfao: common sense not a prediction. That’s as bold as saying it will rain during the rainy season. There is also no evidence any of your patently false statements have ever come to fruition. Checked facts : the healthcare system is on the brink even in Osaka.

Rest in Peace to the 250 dead.

Steven Mccarthy

Yes, the peak has been hit and numbers will be falling, gradually as we see at present and shortly will fall fast.

Very sad a teen died, but that doesn’t stop the virus being mild especially with the young. He is only under 20 year old to die from Omicron and 4 others died from previous variants. No under 10’s in Japan have died from Covid.

The dangers to the young are miniscule.

I have a friend at the kuyakusho who told me the government is deliberately manipulating the numbers to confuse Japan Today readers.

Comment of the day. I laughed in real life. :)

The science to which you refer is deeply flawed, partly due to big pharma and their influence due to cash and political reasons.

That is irrelevant, because making up things from thin air is much more likely to be wrong, science is simply the best thing we have to know about reality, so just saying itis not perfect is a terribly lousy argument, sorry if science can prove your ideas are false, give better evidence or accept you are wrong.

You keeping with false and deceiving information does not help either, you have been corrected repeatedly about how variants were predicted to change the effect of vaccines even before the vaccines were produced but you keep trying to misrepresent the science as if it was something unexpected or impossible, sorry but that is still false, it was considered from the very beginning.

They reduce symptoms, not infections or transmissions. That's what the data shows, when interpreted correctly.

The own authors of the articles conclude that vaccines reduce infections and transmission, obviously they know much more their reports than you, so making up false interpretations that fit your ideas is invalid.

Rest in peace

Yes, Omicron is very mild, average age of deaths is over 80 in Japan. If millions are infected of any virus at one time there will sadly be deaths. Contagiousness does nit equate to lethality

Do you have a citation for the average age of deaths?By my calculation, the average age of deaths in Japan is 70. I reached this number by multiplying the number of deaths in each age bracket by the average age (eg. For 60-69 I used 65) and using the average life expectancy for the 80+ bracket (84). The data was sourced from toyokezai:

https://toyokeizai.net/sp/visual/tko/covid19/en.html

With regard to the consistent debate over lethality vs mortality vs virulence or "contagiousness", it really seems beside the point from a public health perspective. Is your contention that the government, both local and national, does not take measures to suppress diseases of equivalent lethality? In my experience, the annual flu vaccines, school closures, doctor recommended isolation are all common place for the endemic flu. I personally do not doubt that were we to have a flu pandemic we would see the same or more stringent response as we have seen for covid. The only difference would be that certain sections of the population would likely be more amenable because there is a larger knowledge base for the influenza virus and we would therefore be more accepting of expert opinion.

> @Gilbert

Peak is over. Weeks stats is going down recently.

4000+ nationally more than yesterday, and 3000 more than Thursday last week.

Daily totals have been rising for the past 3 days, despite lower testing totals. And deaths are at an all time high.

But the "Government Expert Advisory Panel" also declared the peak being over. Seems like they jumped the gun on believing that too.

Virusrex

Oh, it’s easy to find out is it? Do you think all those that died from Covid due to obesity or to vitamin deficiency were fully aware of this? Of course if the media broadcasted it, they would have known. If the CDC had pushed people to realise how dangerous obesity is with viruses and how obesity makes the vaccines less effective.

You think this info is common knowledge? When I post this stuff I’m called a liar and spreading pseudoscience when it’s all factual

Link about CDC and masks from last year

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-57160923

The comment section is very entertaining today . Personally, I’d give up if my down votes outnumbered my + votes 10-1. Ffs , did I read here correctly that you stated ,” you are not vaccinated.?” If that’s a fact , you have even less credibility than I was barely giving you credit for . I noticed you basically dodged my entire post earlier here about all your predictions. Since omicron is so mild , and natural immunity offers so much better protection than vaccines , you claim you go out like Covid doesn’t exist , go test your false statements. Prove everyone wrong. Go ahead .

Ashley ShibaToday  05:45 pm JST

This friend told me the government believes that the numbers are so much higher and they are taking steps to try and reduce the number by running extra trains in the morning to keep the crowding down and asking people to stay home as much as possible.

Your posts are always pessimistic and do not reflect what I see on a daily basis around me, even if I commute 4 hours a day in the Tokyo area.

Nobody is asked to stay home and there is no plan to run extra trains, but rather reduce the number of trains to kept the costs low

Case numbers are up . Again . Deaths another record high . I believed all those false statements. I can’t believe I’ve been duped by a cultist .

The number of coronavirus-related deaths reported nationwide was a record high 269.

Shocking increase in numbers. RIP to all those people, and to their loved ones.

As there were 'only' 11 deaths a day in Tokyo one month back, I suppose we should conclude that the number of people not taking their vitamins this year, getting themselves morbidly obese, or turning 80 must have skyrocketed in the last month, right?

The government's failure to learn from the country's experience, be humble enough to learn from other countries' more successful responses, and to take appropriate measures to protect people, is costing Japanese people their lives.

There is no "Government Expert Advisory Panel". Anybody who believes it has absolutely no clue about how this country is run.

"The effective reproduction number, or the average number of people infected by a single carrier, stood at 0.98 as of Jan. 31, falling below 1 for the first time since Nov. 28 last year, according to an estimate shown at the meeting.

The panel warned, however, that the number of deaths linked to COVID-19 in Japan has been surging and that toll could remain elevated for the time being."

tldr; deaths are surging but the peak in case numbers has been reached as shown by the lower reproduction rate in number of cases.

Not an unreasonable assessment given that we're now seeing a week on week fall in numbers but increase in deaths.

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2022/02/17/national/sixth-wave-past-peak/

and 269 deaths.

Thought they posted it early today, so it's indeed a lot higher

"The effective reproduction number, or the average number of people infected by a single carrier, stood at 0.98 as of Jan. 31, falling below 1 for the first time since Nov. 28 last year, according to an estimate shown at the meeting.

0.98 as of yesterday, unchanged from 15th acc to toyokeizai.

Sorry bout last night btw, twas plainly clear I was talking to you directly but I said I didnt

A response to the omicron = influenza argument:

Premise 1: The omicron variant is equivalent in lethality to severe seasonal influenza.

Premise 2: Severe seasonal influenza has an acceptable annual mortality rate in Japan of approximately 10000 people.

Premise 3: Local and national authorities and private businesses implement various methods to achieve this mortality rate.

Therefore, local and national authorities and private business should implement various methods to achieve an acceptable annual mortality rate in Japan of approximately 10000 people for the omicron variant.

Premise 4: To date, covid-19 across all variants has had an annual mortality rate in Japan of approximately 10000 people.

Therefore, the various methods implemented to achieve this mortality rate to date are acceptable.

Premise 5: Mortality rates are increasing under the omicron variant.

Therefore, local and national authorities should implement stricter methods to maintain the acceptable mortality rate.

Alternatively, there is a higher acceptable mortality rate of omicron than influenza.

This appears to me to be the only logical positions you can be arguing.

Sorry bout last night btw, twas plainly clear I was talking to you directly but I said I didnt

No worries, fellah. We're good. :)

Cheers for the supplemental information also. Assume there was some delay between the time when the R changed to when the meeting was held.

The government's failure to learn from the country's experience, be humble enough to learn from other countries' more successful responses, and to take appropriate measures to protect people, is costing Japanese people their lives.

Other countries such as... China?

So we still have the covid deniers trying to deflect and act like nothing is wrong or serious.

Let me point out this simple thing:

The number of coronavirus-related deaths reported nationwide was a record high 269.

If memory serves me well and I know it does, the last waves the anti vaxxers covid deniers keep pointing out low deaths, now they ignore deaths and try deflecting to every thing but the rising death toll.

Or like one did yesterday dismiss the deaths as being very old people as if they are something to just ignore or discard.

The number of infected people hospitalized with severe symptoms in Tokyo is 81, unchanged from Wednesday,

And THAT is the number that counts. 81 out of 15 million, i.e. de facto nothing.

But of course it is buried in the small print. Instead, we get the daily dribble of "case" numbers which are meaningless.

Antiquesaving

Let me point out this simple thing:

The number of coronavirus-related deaths reported nationwide was a record high 269.

Are those "from" Covid or "with" Covid? The article does not tell us, and you can guess why.

Are those "from" Covid or "with" Covid? The article does not tell us, and you can guess why.

Obviously no idea about science I bet you Said the same thing about HIV and AIDS.