Tokyo reports record high 4,166 coronavirus cases; nationwide tally 14,207

Back in April 2020, daily cases in Tokyo were between 100-300. SOE was declared and schools were closed.

Just sayin'

Getting a bit tiresome the daily case numbers, better to focus on deaths and severe cases so we can access how else the vaccines are working. We don’t know the actual case numbers and it’s becoming irrelevant as the vulnerable become protected.

I agree to a point. If you can post your links ( plural ) to medical professionals ( note medical professionals ) corroborating your claim that long Covid is a trivial issue which affects very few, we can focus more on deaths and hospitalizations.

This would add so much to your argument.

Tokyo reports record high 4,166 coronavirus cases

That is a high number however as the Japanese Government has convinced us, everything is just going to be... just... fine.

OMG!

Thats almost 1000 more than last Wednesday - the SOE has done absolutely nothing to arrest the increase in positive cases because its not a real lockdown. What other options does Japan have? - zero.

A textbook case of how not to do disaster preparedness, despite having almost 2 years to come up with plan A, plan B, etc..

5000 by end of the week for sure.

With numbers rising it seems the government is starting to get jittery about what may be coming.

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/japans-covid-19-infections-have-entered-new-phase-says-health-minister-2021-08-04/

Seems that the government is trying to wash it's hands of thousands of covid patients and keep the hospitalisation number as low as possible.

And whats worse, is the government announced just last night that the new covid health policy is to only hospitalize critical (need a ventilator) or likely critical patients - all others have to now go home or to a hotel. Of course a percentage of those folks will now die, but who cares right - available beds will go up and thats all that matters!.

Okinawa 600+ Fukuoka 750+

Finally getting my first dose tomorrow. Second will come later this month. I just hope it's not too late.

It seems the younger age group isn't getting vaccinated here. 

Older people who get vaccinated with Moderna experience fewer side effects than younger people who get the vaccination. This ,might contribute to the reason.

Are you still harping on about Moderna. Sad.

The younger are not getting vaccinated because like my son They can't!

No vaccine available in our ward not open yet to under 30 my sister in law just under 40 in Saitama finally got her vouchers and the city where she lives said she cannot get vaccinated until late October.

Many here have pointed this fact out.

Of the 80 million doses given out in Japan 40 million were done by private companies to their employees a fact the government and others like to omit.

@not_vaccinated

Tokyo over 4,000 cases average daily for 7 days over 3,300

Niigata 61 cases yesterday.

Next time look at what you are commenting on.

We are reaching the peak, as testing capacities are at the limit.

Now imagine if there was a lot more testing here than there is now, at least to the same extent as in other countries... It would make our legislators wonder why that is and how it could happen.

It takes about a week for symptoms to get serious. The number of patients in critical condition now is based on positive test results of about 1500 last week. So, expect that number to really go up through next week. Hopefully the hospitals will be open during o'ban!

I understand that you'd rather blame the Japanese for the situation rather than those super-fit and hunky foreigners, and that's your right. But I was on a train today, a trip of about six stations. The trains were fairly full.

Okay, and how are those "super hunky" foreigners spreading the virus when; 1) They're not allowed out of Olympic village on their own, and aren't even allowed to drink together, and 2) the Olympics started less than two weeks ago.

Every single passenger was masked.

Thats your experience, but I see multiple unmasked people riding the train everyday.

People distanced as far as it was possible. People sat two seats apart when they could.

What time were you riding? First train? Mid-day? Certainly not during rush hour. The seats are packed, as well as the rest of the train.

Over 90 million vaccine doses administered in Japan now with over 38 million people fully vaccinated, and over 51 million with their first dose. Over 3 quarters of people over 65 in Japan are fully vaccinated.

These infection numbers will start dropping soon.

Hate to inform you, but it's going to get much worse before it gets better. That damage has already been done. Has nothing to do if you were vaccinated or not.

The delta variant seemed to “burn out” in India and the UK. We can only hope the same happens in Japan

Going to go out with a bang on the day of the Olympics closing ceremony?

@joffy

No I will focus on the real issue not testing low testing not diagnosing people so the numbers remain low and death go unreported.

I know it frustrates people that want to say "look over their, not here" so they can spin their agenda that all is fine.

2% of cases were people in their 40s and under, age groups with a near-100% survival rate. 

Tell that to the 5 children in the ICU with an additional 8 on vents in a Louisiana children's hospital. This new Delta variant infects younger patients and they get sicker.

And that does not even take into account the long-haulers.

I feel like every sentient being is in a race against time to get vaccinated.

And I must go into the office tomorrow and Friday. Damn.......

Personally I'm vaxxed and happy with my decision. That's it, its my life, my body. I don't criticise others life choices, just be happy and get along

Yeah no. A person's got every right to chain-smoke and binge drink as much as they like, but if you think you've a right to light up on the train or drink drive, you're sorely mistaken.

And so too should it be with getting vaccinated. The refusal of a large number or people to get the vaccine threatens all of society.

"The death look at the death numbers."

These people sound like the guy that goes " hey look at the guy doubled parked, that really bad for traffic" while right behind him is a 500 car pile up with hundreds of injured.

I think its time to enter a conversation about how to live with this virus….herd immunity is the way…

@Slickdrifter Herd immunity is not reachable, that was clear with alpha, even clearer it is now with delta. Second, it’s sheer impossible to live with the virus. I could demonstrate it with a transition matrix calculation. In midrange or longer time spans, most societies, economies and we as individuals won’t stand many more of those ‘waves’, expectable LongCovid diseases, further restrictions in education , cost burdens and so on, quite a long list. It’s a dangerous illusion to think we just can eternally continue easily jumping from one infection number valley to the next.

What time were you riding? First train? Mid-day? Certainly not during rush hour. The seats are packed, as well as the rest of the train.

Approximately 5.30. Marunouchi line from Akasaka-Mitsuke to Shinjuku.

So are you saying 5:30 AM or PM 5:30 at either point is not Rush hour in Tokyo and Definitely not on the route you mention.

Try Chiyoda from just about any point North at 7:00 to 9:00 or returning North at 19:00 to 21:00.

Same applies to Hibya same time slots.

The words "sardine Can" come to mind.

@Reckless

I'll bet 1000 yen we see 5000 by Friday.

According to the linked data, Tokyo tested 18,560 on Monday, but only 13,041 yesterday. Thats a 30% decline in tests in the pipeline for tomorrow.

That time has long passed, is expensive and totally unnecessary. Doctors better employed in their extra time assisting with vaccinations.

The dozens of private labs doing testing are not using doctors to take the samples, no doctors needed.

Lab technician process the samples, no doctors needed, etc...

And how is it that every other developed countries is somehow able to do far more testing?

Are you basically saying Japan is incapable of doing like Australia, Canada, UK, the USA, etc...?

joffyToday  05:30 pm JST

yes, thats why now corona is now out of control here, and hospitals are collapsing - well done Japan!

Really?

Yes really!

Tokyo has 5967 covid beds as of yesterday 3,351 are occupied and 8,417 are waiting,

Those waiting has more than doubled in one week.

Ever if the government somehow figures a way to reject half of those waiting for hospitalisation the remainder is still more than the number of beds available.

After that 4 day holiday last week nobody saw this coming, shoooocking!

...with increased vaccines being given.

I'll accept that argument if you can point me to data which shows areas in Japan where the provision of vaccines has shown a marked increase.

I'm still trying - daily - and failing to get a reservation for my first shot, and I'm trying a triple pronged attack: the mass centre at Otemachi, the local centres, and the local clinics. So far, nada.

AntiquesavingToday  07:35 pm JST

So are you saying 5:30 AM or PM 5:30 at either point is not Rush hour in Tokyo and Definitely not on the route you mention.

Try Chiyoda from just about any point North at 7:00 to 9:00 or returning North at 19:00 to 21:00.

Same applies to Hibya same time slots. The words "sardine Can" come to mind.

Michael O’ Dereiter - I rarely find myself agreeing with AntiquesavingToday, but the journey you describe sounds like you have no idea about commuting in Tokyo.

Try travelling through Shinjuku daily, as I did through all the SOE's and continue to do so. Only in the first SOE was there a period where you could describe the trains as not being crowded.

Nearly 5000 fewer tests and the numbers keep going up.

I do not write this easily.

My family is quite extensive.

2 Deaths. Early on. Seniors.

4 members currently active and carrying the viral load and all vaccinated.

Myself Beta variant asymptomatic. They are finally rolling the vaccine in my area.

I think its time to enter a conversation about how to live with this virus.

Heard immunity is the way it must be i feel. So much misinformation out there.

All the young people in my area do not want the shots.

So sick of it.

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According to the linked data, Tokyo tested 18,560 on Monday, but only 13,041 yesterday. 

Then again, who knows what to believe

When looking at yesterday's data sheet, they listed 16,620 tests on Aug 2, and 3,307 on Aug 1.

Yesterday's link:

https://www.fukushihoken.metro.tokyo.lg.jp/hodo/saishin/corona2307.files/2307_.pdf

But on today's sheet it now somehow says 18,560 tests were done on Aug 2, and 3,506 on Aug 1.

Today's link:

https://www.fukushihoken.metro.tokyo.lg.jp/hodo/saishin/corona2311.files/2311.pdf

it only took the WHO 16 months to figure this out but this shows the japanese government's testing policy has been correct from the start. 

yes, thats why now corona is now out of control here, and hospitals are collapsing - well done Japan!

One wonders what’s the point in having these draconian fortnight quarantine when coming back to Japan given that, at this point, there’s a higher chance of getting infected here rather than, say, in Europe.

Then again, as I mentioned, people on here have a tendency to interpret pretty much everything in light of their personal biases, so...y'know what the kids say today: "What - ever".

I suggest you go back and read what you wrote, and what the question you quoted asked.

That fact your reply was not accurate is not the fault of others.

@wobot

The Ivermectin isn't actually a drug it is more a chemical treatment like chemotherapy is.

The investor is Japanese, it is a treatment for parasites.

The Japanese government invested million in it as a possible treatment for covid tested it and rejected it in the same way every other study before and after eventually did.

Michael O’ Dereiter - I rarely find myself agreeing with AntiquesavingToday, but the journey you describe sounds like you have no idea about commuting in Tokyo.

Try travelling through Shinjuku daily, as I did through all the SOE's and continue to do so. Only in the first SOE was there a period where you could describe the trains as not being crowded.

Fair enough. I only used to work in central Shinjuku before teleworking was the norm, but as you apparently know me better than I know myself, I will bow to your telepathic powers.

The Paralympics are scheduled to begin in about three weeks. What will Tokyo's daily infections and positivity rate (currently 20 percent) look like then?

^this

What time were you riding? First train? Mid-day? Certainly not during rush hour. The seats are packed, as well as the rest of the train.

Approximately 5.30. Marunouchi line from Akasaka-Mitsuke to Shinjuku.

Then again, people on this board literally only believe what it suits them to, so I really couldn't care less if nobody takes my word for it.

Vax, don't vax, do as you please its a free world, you make your own decisions, but don't be a cry baby if things don't go your way and no one needs to say I told you so either.

Personally I'm vaxxed and happy with my decision. That's it, its my life, my body. I don't criticise others life choices, just be happy and get along

So are you saying 5:30 AM or PM 5:30 at either point is not Rush hour in Tokyo and Definitely not on the route you mention.

Try Chiyoda from just about any point North at 7:00 to 9:00 or returning North at 19:00 to 21:00.

Same applies to Hibya same time slots.

The words "sardine Can" come to mind.

I don't recall claiming that 5:30 was rush hour. I simply responded to a question about what time I was on a train.

Then again, as I mentioned, people on here have a tendency to interpret pretty much everything in light of their personal biases, so...y'know what the kids say today: "What - ever".

RecklessToday  08:10 pm JST

Feel relieved to get my second vaccine Monday. Side effects were harsh like getting snatched by a super heavyweight female Olympic weightlifter but optimistic about the future now.

Did you get Moderna?

Older people have less of a reaction to side effects than younger people who get that shot.

RecklessToday  08:17 pm JST

Yes, Moderna for this middle aged guy. Woken up at 4 am by my high fever and severe muscle pain like I had moved refrigerators around all day.

Similar to what my friends went through.

Double check medical advice, but one of my friends took ibuprofen a few hours after the shot; said it helped.

Even me though--after my second Pfizer, 2 days after I was knocked down all day with fatigue.

For the record, I think @syzyguy's attitude to the virus and vaccinations are deplorable. But the last paragraph of his post is quite simply 100% correct. @Antiquesaving is living in Feb-June 2020 when mass testing 'may'' of been of some use. That time has long passed, is expensive and totally unnecessary. Doctors better employed in their extra time assisting with vaccinations.

NHK Science Editor was corrected 7/27 in stating the trend was indicating these numbers to triple within one week.

tooheysnewToday  06:16 pm JST

I’m surprised there’s not more people blaming the Olympics

Because the Olympics is almost over. As cases continue to rise the flock will blame what ever else is fashionable.

What they won't blame is the 7 million cramming on to trains everyday. I have no idea why this logic continues to prevail.

I’m surprised there’s not more people blaming the Olympics

AntiquesavingToday  08:16 pm JST

> I suggest you go back and read what you wrote, and what the question you quoted asked.

That fact your reply was not accurate is not the fault of others.

Here you go--read more carefully this time:

Commodore PerryToday  12:04 pm JST

In the US first responders are all ages; but it was true my older friends (40's and up) had less side effects than their younger (20-30s) colleagues.

FYI - deaths from covid for the whole of Japan in the last 7 days:

2021/07/29 = 14

2021/07/30 = 9

2021/07/31 = 9

2021/08/01 = 5

2021/08/02 = 11

2021/08/03 = 10

2021/08/04 = 14

What they won't blame is the 7 million cramming on to trains everyday. I have no idea why this logic continues to prevail.

I understand that you'd rather blame the Japanese for the situation rather than those super-fit and hunky foreigners, and that's your right. But I was on a train today, a trip of about six stations. The trains were fairly full.

Every single passenger was masked.

Nobody spoke. Not a word.

People distanced as far as it was possible. People sat two seats apart when they could.

The local people here are actually pretty disciplined. The numbers would be horrendous if they were not.

falseflagsteveToday  04:54 pm JST

Getting a bit tiresome the daily case numbers, better to focus on deaths and severe cases so we can access how else the vaccines are working. We don’t know the actual case numbers and it’s becoming irrelevant as the vulnerable become protected.

The problem with that is it doesn't add enough drama to support the scare mongering.

We've been hearing for months how deaths will follow the rise in recorded cases. But it hasn't so far.

AntiquesavingToday  05:42 pm JST

The dozens of private labs doing testing are not using doctors to take the samples, no doctors needed.

It seems the younger age group isn't getting vaccinated here. 

Older people who get vaccinated with Moderna experience fewer side effects than younger people who get the vaccination. This ,might contribute to the reason.

Would=wouldn't

@syv

Exactly. Why test perfectly healthy people

that are paranoid?

Over 90 million vaccine doses administered in Japan now with over 38 million people fully vaccinated, and over 51 million with their first dose. Over 3 quarters of people over 65 in Japan are fully vaccinated.

These infection numbers will start dropping soon.

goes to show that vaccinations are a waste of time!!!

At least it wasn't 5000.

It seems the younger age group isn't getting vaccinated here.

Older people who get vaccinated with Moderna experience fewer side effects than younger people who get the vaccination. This ,might contribute to the reason.

Getting a bit tiresome the daily case numbers, better to focus on deaths and severe cases so we can access how else the vaccines are working. We don’t know the actual case numbers and it’s becoming irrelevant as the vulnerable become protected.