Tokyo reports 5,394 new coronavirus cases; nationwide tally 41,756

Okinawa numbers still high.

It is far from over.

@painkiller

When will it be over by your definition? You do realize there is no putting this genie back in the bottle right? It's now with us for good in one shape or another. Things are not that bad right now and hopefully will stay that way or get even better over time.

Rain ManToday  05:06 pm JST

With overall numbers continuing to slow drop

Not in Okinawa.

KetoCoffeeToday  05:07 pm JST

Sorry Painkiller it’s over! These numbers don’t mean anything! 

Well, certain segments of Japan's government agrees with me, hence the current entry restrictions.

FuzzyToday  05:15 pm JST

@painkiller

When will it be over by your definition? You do realize there is no putting this genie back in the bottle right? 

Look back one year ago, April 28, and there was a state of emergency. But Covid cases in Tokyo are about 5 times the number as one year ago today.

Tokyo did not even report 1000 cases until April 29, 2021.

Imagine if Tokyo was reporting 5000-7000 cases last April? Would the Olympics have even been held?

So at the least, let's get back to last year's low comparable numbers.

Wen zero?

The number of infected people hospitalized with severe symptoms in Tokyo is 13.

This thing is over. No reason to worry about "cases"....

@painkiller

Look back one year ago, April 28

It was a completely different situation and virus back then. Back then I too was calling for caution and restraint. For me, the calculus changed dramatically with omicron. Even at the beginning of omicron I was cautioning not to celebrate too early. But it is very clear now that things have changed for the better. Omicron is a far less dangerous variant. Comparing case counts between now and then is irrelevant.

FuzzyToday  05:35 pm JST

@painkiller

Look back one year ago, April 28

It was a completely different situation and virus back then. Back then I too was calling for caution and restraint. For me, the calculus changed dramatically with omicron. Even at the beginning of omicron I was cautioning not to celebrate too early. But it is very clear now that things have changed for the better. Omicron is a far less dangerous variant. Comparing case counts between now and then is irrelevant.

Japan had its most deaths in a day under the Omicron umbrella.

There have been more covid related deaths since last year April compared to the February 2020-April 2021 period.

@painkiller

And yet, your personal risk of dying or getting seriously ill is far lower. I know this is a hard concept for some people to grasp.

And yet, your personal risk of dying or getting seriously ill is far lower. I know this is a hard concept for some people to grasp.

More people have died, that means the risk of dying was greater

Incredible though that Okinawa numbers are so comparably high:

Okinawa (1,683), Hyogo (1,570)

FuzzyToday  06:02 pm JST

@painkiller

And yet, your personal risk of dying or getting seriously ill is far lower. I know this is a hard concept for some people to grasp.

So, with a higher number of people being infected with a less potent strain, my risk of being infected increases but risk of dying or getting seriously ill decreases?

I elect the lower risk of getting infected in the first place, because those infected do not get to choose whether they will be one of those who dies or gets seriously ill.

ianToday  06:08 pm JST

More people have died, that means the risk of dying was greater

Makes sense to me and my math too.

The reason “personal risk of dying or getting seriously ill is far lower” is because the majority of responsible people are vaccinated! And it’s a good thing because no matter how many people or how many times it’s falsely repeated, Omicron has been the deadliest variant of Covid in Japan to date. It’s not mild or harmless . 29000 deaths in 27 months . Of which 9000 of those are this year … less than 4 months. The jgov has been urging the unvaccinated minority to join the party to help reduce the burden on the healthcare system. Yet most of that minority are still whining about something as simple as a mask . I haven’t seen the totals yet for today , but Japan had more cases yesterday than the entire United States. With 1/3 the population and Japan only test symptomatic people.

Ian

I don’t think people find it difficult to grasp. i’m convinced that people are just trolling.

@painkiller

So, with a higher number of people being infected with a less potent strain, my risk of being infected increases but risk of dying or getting seriously ill decreases?

Correct.

Actually, to be more correct, your risk of dying or getting seriously ill remains unchanged by the number of cases. Your risk is based on your personal risk profile and the characteristics of the variant you catch.

I don’t think people find it difficult to grasp. i’m convinced that people are just trolling.

They're not trolling, obviously struggling to make sense of the simple fact

Not alarming at all...

FuzzyToday  06:33 pm JST

Actually, to be more correct, your risk of dying or getting seriously ill remains unchanged by the number of cases. Your risk is based on your personal risk profile and the characteristics of the variant you catch.

Your premise relying on the "the variant you catch" is the catch though.

If you don't catch any variant, one is less likely to die or get seriously ill from Covid in the first place, and with highly contagious Omicron floating around, better to not wait and find out how one will respond once infected.

McCarthy what are u talking about? US has about 84,000 new cases per day.