Tokyo reports 545 coronavirus cases; Osaka logs 905

Well done Tokyo!

its clearly under control in tokyo abd that makes me happy. Now, lets hope the osaka mayor has been talked to and will sternly understand things are to be controlled from now on.

@Reckless,

sorry, but I don't understand what is "well done" (assuming you're not talking about food preparation).

A year ago the numbers were much lower, not just for Tokyo but all Japan.

545 cases is too many to start cheering.

Well done of what? That the daily number of positive cases grew by about a hundred people week on week through the last month???

sorry, but I don't understand what is "well done" 

I am pretty sure he's being sarcastic.

I realise that we’re going over old ground here, but I’ll say it again: these figures don’t make any sense.

Yesterday: 555 cases, out of 1846 tests. 30% positivity.

Today: 545 cases out of 10826 tests. 5% positivity.

Tokyo/Kanagawa conurbation = 30 million people. Even using the low 5% stats, that’s 1.5 million in this burg with COVID.

What’s going on?

Right and Okinawa is still either No 1 or No 2 (today) in per 100,000 , yesterday over 150, today, over 140.

The prefecture now has over 10,000 confirmed cases, and a death rate of around 1.3%

And, look at all those wasted tests. Only test those with proper symptoms. Waste of time to test those unnecessarily .

Kyakusenbi_Arimasu

And, look at all those wasted tests. Only test those with proper symptoms. Waste of time to test those unnecessarily .

You need to test as wide a range as possible - remember there are asymptomatic people as well.

Well done mr or ms numbers persons. 5 times the number of tests as yesterday but you managed to manipulate, sorry I mean report the number of positive cases around the same. Although you have let the number of cases creep above a nasty 500, it could be worse. That number are still even below quasi emergency status, What number would be needed for a new SOE nowadays anyhow with Olympics getting close 1000, 2000??

and whatever happened to that promised increase in test numbers the politicians keep promising repeatedly and endlessly. Oh sorry I forgot they start after the Olympics closing ceremony

If there were a lot of asymptomatic cases, then there would be a lot of symptomatic cases as that is the standard and norm, but we just do not see it happening, so a waste of time testing those not needing it. Pure logic.

What’s going on?

Your logic only makes sense if the tests were all at random, which they are not. I don't believe the numbers reported are anywhere close to accurate, but you can't extrapolate the way you have.

Yes I can and I have. Laws of statistics can't be changed, at least not yet in our universe.

There would be even less cases found if the testing was done randomly, because then you would be testing people without any symptoms at all in general.

It is very hard to get a test here, so if a qualified doctor requests and gets the tests done, there is a reason for it. And as we can tell from the numbers, most of those tests proved negative for Covid-19, but probably showed positive for other illnesses of which they were more than likely tested for as well.

There are people all over this forum insisting on random testing, and that is absurd to do.

And, look at all those wasted tests.

Nothing much is gained from not knowing, so it's worth wasting a few cheap tests right now especially with the new variants knocking about. Osaka probably gonna be around a thousand today, Hyogo cause for concern too.

There are people all over this forum insisting on random testing, and that is absurd to do.

Because???

Testing is useful as it can help give us a clearer picture of what’s going on. It’s that simple.

It can also help to detect new variants as quickly as possible.

I think some hysterical types are terrified of testing. Frightened of their own shadows.

I realise that we’re going over old ground here, but I’ll say it again: these figures don’t make any sense. 

Yesterday: 555 cases, out of 1846 tests. 30% positivity.

Today: 545 cases out of 10826 tests. 5% positivity.

Tokyo/Kanagawa conurbation = 30 million people. Even using the low 5% stats, that’s 1.5 million in this burg with COVID.

What’s going on?

There are 2 problems with your analysis. First, you don't take into account that it's difficult/expensive to get tested, so only people with severe symptoms can get tested from their doctors. So whether the sample size is 300 or 30,000, they're only testing the X number of people who present severe symptons.

The second problem is the extrapolation. You're extrapolating 5% positivity towards the entire population, but it is a flawed approach because the original sample isn't a random sample from the general population, but a sample of people with severe symptoms.

its clearly under control in tokyo abd that makes me happy.

Yes, Tokyo response deserves to be saluted while standing in attention, you could almost say , ne?

Now, lets hope the osaka mayor has been talked to and will sternly understand things are to be controlled from now on.

Yes, definitely, the testing and reported case numbers need to be suppressed , I mean " controlled" more ...J-govt quasi leadership demands it.

@Derek Grebe

https://www.fukushihoken.metro.tokyo.lg.jp/index.files/030408sokuhou.pdf

I have no idea from this form how they collate the data. It appears the amount of tests a day has zero connection the the amount of people positives. They appear to be different time lines. I would hope JT would do some digging and see if they can get a more understandable data source.

There are people all over this forum insisting on random testing, and that is absurd to do."

Absolutely....because all the rest of the world is wrong and Japan is right, as usual.

Well done Osaka for keeping on top of things by doing plenty of testing and revealing the true situation, a pat on the back. The Tokyo governor could learn something from Osaka and start doing more testing 10,000 is very pathetic for one day.

@Kyakusenbi_Arimasu

"...It is very hard to get a test here..."

Yes, that is the problem, and why we'll never know the full extent of the situation in Japan so long as the testing measures remain as they are. They don't even test many people with severe symptoms. Even those who were in a confirmed cluster infection site before coming down with symptoms.

I'm part of a long-hauler community in Japan who can attest to that. We got to experience the true nature of test suppression, being told again and again and again, "Sorry, we're just not testing. You might have better luck in [insert distant place] here. Or if you have the money to get a private test done, perhaps that would be best."

Funny thing is, you've likely spent a huge chunk of your money already on the phone bill to their useless COVID-19 hotline, which tells you exactly what I've said above, no matter how bad your symptoms are.

I will never forget an older Japanese friend of mine calling the ambulance because I was so ill. Them just about carrying me through my own damned front door. That was my second time in the emergency room in two months - my fourteenth time in a hospital overall. The ER doctor's words, and I quote: "Wow, we can see you are very sick, but there's nothing we can do. We're not testing. Maybe you can come back during the week for regular tests?"

(Which I had already done thirteen times before over the course of the first month ill, at three different hospitals. Still in my twenties and formerly in perfectly good health.)

When you're stuck in your damned room hoping you'll wake up the next day, that you don't die in your sleep from the intense and endless fevers, the burning of your inner organs, the inability to breathe, and all the crazy neurological crap this thing gives you.........you feel nothing but rage when you see that over a year later, nothing has changed.

At the end of the day, it's this: "It is very hard to get a test here."

And that is why the test numbers we see are so low.

If they actually tested as most other countries are doing, we'd know the true extent of the spread here. I feel sad that all of us have fallen through the cracks and will likely never get to know the truth, nor be protected from this Hell virus because of such incompetence and "saving face".

I feel sad that all of us have fallen through the cracks and will likely never get to know the truth, nor be protected from this Hell virus because of such incompetence and "saving face".

Have you tried contacting your Embassy? I am not sure, but they might be interested to hear how their citizens are treated.

@Zoroto

Yes, twice. And a friend tried calling for me once, as well.

Perhaps it is just the incompetence of my home country, but they insisted both times that there was nothing they could do. That was last year, so hopefully something has changed. But I wouldn't bet money on it. It's not like they would be able to enforce more testing here.

All stay well , stay safe from Pandemic COVID. Greetings from Bangladesh

Wow! The numbers are going up again!

Went for lunch in a cafe in Osaka today. Everyone except for a young man did not wear a mask when not eating. So, I don’t see any change in that regard despite requests not to do so. No signs of any less people going about their daily lives. I shall carry on with my usual routines and taking what I consider appropriate measures.

It's because the test has been debunked by the creator of the pcr test before this "pandemic ever began.

It's because the test has been debunked by the creator of the pcr test before this "pandemic ever began.

Your claim has been debunked every time you bring it up, but you still keep repeating it. I wonder why.

I got tested twice free of charge. Had two operations.

So, if you can figure out a way to get operated on, you will get a free test. Hope that makes everyone happy.

I hope Osaka calls out arrogant, vastly overrated Tokyo as the liars they are, regarding testing and reporting false figures.

The only reason cases are increasing is because more people getting tested. Deaths in Japan are so low. Stop living in fear.

I have no idea from this form how they collate the data. It appears the amount of tests a day has zero connection the the amount of people positives. They appear to be different time lines. I would hope JT would do some digging and see if they can get a more understandable data source.

This isn't JT's fault, the data is just a mess. It does seem like Osaka is testing more than Tokyo, despite Tokyo having 1.5 times larger population. Then again, we probably just aren't getting all of the data from Tokyo's private test centers.

The only reason cases are increasing is because more people getting tested. 

Uh, no. Cases increase or decrease independently of how many tests are conducted. Unreported cases (ie not tested) are still cases.

I got tested twice free of charge. Had two operations.

So, if you can figure out a way to get operated on, you will get a free test. Hope that makes everyone happy.

Sure. That’s reassuring. I trust you.

And I just started posting here recently. Trust me...

Germany managed 656.000 vaccinations today.

Japan managed 1.1 million in 7 weeks.

no comment needed

Now, lets hope the osaka mayor has been talked to and will sternly understand things are to be controlled from now on.

im sorry but just talking about something will not miraculously change the result. No Tokyo doesnt have anything under control about this pandemic. "sternly understand" is that just Japanese talk for get into line and say what we say regardless of the facts, an Osaka SOE isnt required because Tokyo told them so!?

Im predicting case numbers will suddenly explode, just after the Olympic finishes, any deaths resulting in this is purely on the J government and IOC

Big red flags.

Stop all international travel for 1-2 months.

Impose regional movement restrictions

Monitor closely

Adapt restrictions - tightening movement controls within areas that are hot spots

Enforce public awareness of local issues over the public tannoy

Scrap the Japan Olympics - "Seriously", it's the most stupid mentality ever since WW1 and trench warfare!