Tokyo reports 727 new coronavirus cases; nationwide tally 2,329

A remarkable drop. Very convenient. How many tests?

Tokyo reports 727 new coronavirus cases

Let s hope the trend starts downward again.

as expected. Low number (Monday). as expected - instant outrage over number of tests and alleged impropriety.

The article never bothers to mention that Mondays had always been lower than Sundays due to testing numbers.

When compared to the previous Monday, it is actually an increase of 225. Completely different trend than what this article is suggesting.

https://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/html/20210719/k10013147441000.html

of come on Zoroto - In context! How many tests for Jan 18th compared to today. Whats the ratio of positives/tests! Try harder.

You'd think that people on here would be used to the low Monday numbers by now. But no..... Why the same old comments?

Not sure how many tests.

However they did report a total of 4 deaths yesterday in the whole of Japan.

…And Sir Thomas Bach will use these numbers to convince Tokyo to allow spectators as he is smart, knows medicine, statistics and needs his salary.

727 new coronavirus cases, down 281 from Sunday.

Measures are already working !!!

Are the Olympics guys included in the count ?

of come on Zoroto - In context! How many tests for Jan 18th compared to today. Whats the ratio of positives/tests! Try harder.

Actually you can find this data by yourself on

https://stopcovid19.metro.tokyo.lg.jp/

Testing #s actually went down. 9,083 tests were performed on Jan 18th, 2021 with 7 day moving average at 12,009, while Jan 19th numbers have not yet been released, the 7 day moving average is 7,884.

So by all accounts testing is down while reported positive #s are up, so Tokyo is actually in worse shape.

VERY happy to see a big drop implemented. this is good for people to now enjoying olympics. tomorrow 600. i said it here and now. sternly and accurate.

ZorotoToday  05:03 pm JST

Many hospitals in the Tokyo area are up to 70% occupancy compared 30% last month.

"Dr. Tomoyoshi Yamaguchi, director of the Department of Respiratory Medicine, Tokyo Rinkai Hospital, said that the number of inpatients in the generation with a low vaccination rate is increasing. The number of young inpatients who need oxygen is increasing, and I think the severity is increasing. "

https://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/html/20210719/k10013147301000.html

Hate to pick holes in this, but the term they used in the article was not "many hospitals", but "some hospitals".

The article itself actually only names one hospital at 70% capacity.

According to https://stopcovid19.metro.tokyo.lg.jp/

There is a high risk of a resurgence of the virus.

Gee, do you think so? I wonder what we should do about it?

I'm sure it will be fine. That nice Mr. Bach said so.

ah there we go!

a much more "Olympics appropriate" number generated.

Ok Not shown are the Tokyo testing number.

This is important.

Friday's testing numbers are posted on Tokyo gov covid-19 site.

The 16th 6,269 that gave us 1410 cases yesterday.

The normal low testing for a Friday is around 9,000.

So the government tested around 30% few than usual and the cases went up.

They still haven't posted the testing from Saturday that gave us yesterday's 1,008 but if as usual Saturday's testing is 30% less than Friday's we are looking at 4,000 possibly less.

So Sunday testing is at best 3,000 normally so how possibly low did they go to get today's drop 1,000 maybe 2,000.

Does anyone actually believe Tokyo is not manipulating the testing?

14 million people in Tokyo 6,000 tests! 2,100 last Sunday!

Anyone really trust these numbers?

At this point, i don't even care anymore because i am already vaccinated.

More importantly 70,000,000 vaccines completed.

25,000,000 fully vaccinated

A remarkable drop. Very convenient. How many tests?

It's not remarkable at all. It's totally normal that Mondays count is around 50% of the mid week peak due to the way the numbers come in and lower weekend tests.

Rest assured mid week this week will he higher than last week.

That's a significant decrease in cases from yesterday. Perhaps people have begun to heed the state of emergency in light of recent delta variant news?

No - I don't trust the infection numbers or the testing numbers. But I don't see over run hospitals or people pleading on Television for oxygen supplies either. I also don't see morgues being over run.

I do see a population in general trying to deal with a bad situation pretty well. By that I mean the man on the street. Not the Government.

Ok Not shown are the Tokyo testing number.

This is important.

Friday's testing numbers are posted on Tokyo gov covid-19 site.

The 16th 6,269 that gave us 1410 cases yesterday.

The normal low testing for a Friday is around 9,000.

So the government tested around 30% few than usual and the cases went up.

They still haven't posted the testing from Saturday that gave us yesterday's 1,008 but if as usual Saturday's testing is 30% less than Friday's we are looking at 4,000 possibly less.

So Sunday testing is at best 3,000 normally so how possibly low did they go to get today's drop 1,000 maybe 2,000.

Does anyone actually believe Tokyo is not manipulating the testing?

14 million people in Tokyo 6,000 tests! 2,100 last Sunday!

Anyone really trust these numbers?

I don't know what it is, but somehow the number of deaths is almost always missing.

It was 4 deaths on Sunday by the way.

Yes - 25.000.000 fully vaccinated IS impressive after the awfully mismanaged slow start. Considering that a good chunk of Japanese do not actually want the vaccine then we should be happy about it. As long as you having Pfizer and Moderna (none of that J&J Walmart poo) that offer decent efficacy against the Delta variant - we looking good!

So if I get long covid should I ignore that too?

81.7% of over 65s have had at least one dose of the vaccine.

57.9% have had both.

Over a third of the total population has now had at least one dose of the vaccine.

70m vaccine doses administered in total.

The news is positive my friends, very few deaths now - but still the conspiracy theorists on this site continue on.

We have been saying the same stuff for almost 2 years, we know the government don’t test enough. It’s so stupid.

im sat here with my 2 year old with a fever of 39.5 coughing like crazy, got all the symptoms.

took him to the docs on Saturday and was told it’s “just a normal cold, don’t worry”

it’s been like it non stop, took him to a different docs today and was told the same. I asked if we could have a PCR and they said we don’t need one…..

my son gets colds a lot, this isn’t a cold.

the government should test more, but like I said before, they won’t change.

Yes there has been good progress with the vaccines. But it's looking like too little too late. It is still not high enough to prevent what looks like the next wave. Given the delta variant and a still largely unvaccinated population this will probably be the worst wave so far, maybe the first "bad" wave for Japan. If the Government hadn't dragged its feet on the vaccine rollout I'd be more optimistic. And, not everyone who wants a vaccine can get one. I want it, but I'm still not eligible.

Anyone really trust these numbers?

In the sense that most of the people are happy still having a job under pandemic and therefore do anything but never a testing or a hotel quarantine, those published numbers are still astonishing high and therefore trustworthy, if adding of course the estimated 40% overhead of undetected cases they found out for any country.

VERY happy to see a big drop implemented. this is good for people to now enjoying olympics. tomorrow 600. i said it here and now. sternly and accurate.

What are you smoking? Can I have some?

At this point, i don't even care anymore because i am already vaccinated.

Not sure whether to feel sorry for your ignorance, or worried for the risk you pose to the rest of us. Vaccination massively reduces your risk of serious complications and death, but it is not zero. In places with a resurgence in full swing, like UK, most cases and deaths are now vaccinated people. Health services are once again coming under pressure. And remember here the vaccination rate is way behind, and faltering.

Then we don't yet know about the risk of long term complications on vaccinated people, including kidney, liver, heart damage, chronic fatigue, brain fog.

Apart from that, combating the pandemic is a multi-layered thing, and the biggest is to act to protect others, not just yourself. If everyone tries to reduce the risk of asymptomatic spread ie you are infected and infectious, but don't suffer yourself, then it can save others getting symptomatic illness and possibly dying of Covid. In turn, others doing the same reduce your risk. Thinking only of yourself is risky behaviour both for you and for others.

81.7% of over 65s have had at least one dose of the vaccine.

57.9% have had both.

Over a third of the total population has now had at least one dose of the vaccine.

70m vaccine doses administered in total.

The news is positive my friends, very few deaths now - but still the conspiracy theorists on this site continue on.

UK first dose 87% fully vaccinated 67%

USA at least one dose 48% fully vaccinated 56%

Both countries are seeing a surge in Delta variant with over 90% of those infected being unvaccinated.

Japan 22% fully vaccinated 12% one dose.

And a surge in new cases despite dropping testing as low as possible

Hakman

You say protect the vulnerable yet you want to continue like nothing is happening, so what take your mask off and meet someone who is potentially vulnerable and possibly infect them?

the reason why we wear those “face diapers” is to protect others more so than ourselves. It’s comments like yours that are really frustrating because it seems to me that you only care about yourself.

Positive rates may be up

But a decline in cases

Is overall positive

Deaths are the key statistic. 

No!

Like with other diseases deaths get the headlines.

But if we take Polio as an example, deaths were not the biggest problem but the long term effects even after recovering.

The same thing is now beginning to come to the forefront with covid as deaths drop.

25% of those that had covid had some form of post disease problems some minor like loss of smell or taste. Some lasted a few months some are permanent.

But as many as 10% are looking at permanent long term problems ranging from minor things like skin problems to major lung damage.

Your shortsighted view that only deaths count is contrary to most medical experts.

But if we take Polio as an example,

Covid-19 is not polio.

I would like to join in this debate, but I do not have a shtick which I can repeat over and over and over and over again.

I feel somehow inadequate.

Great. The end of this long dark tunnel is in sight. This drop in numbers almost seems magical.

HiroToday  05:23 pm JST

At this point, i don't even care anymore because i am already vaccinated.

The problem is that some vaccinated people like you do not care and are responsible for the spreading.

Many non vaccinated are more concerned and conscious

CommodoreFlagToday  06:08 pm JST

But if we take Polio as an example,

Covid-19 is not polio.

Actually if you knew the facts about Polio you would understand the reason for similarities.

Death rates not dissimilar, primary danger is breathing needing mechanical assistance.

High recovery rate and long term effects after contracting the disease a high possibility.

Oh and a simple vaccine that can avoid all the above.

@Some dude - hope so. Saves banging on. And on. And on. Even though countering misinformation is so important, and good for those who do it. You have to stay sane, too, specially when so many of the comments either come from a parallel universe, or those people are smoking something.

Actually if you knew the facts about Polio you would understand the reason for similarities.

I've actually studied polio and work on vaccines. I think it's you who don't know about polio. Covid-19 is not polio.

@zoroto

A month ago you were saying 60,000,000 would be impossible by july 20 as the government promised. Well it's july 19th and already they are 10,000,000 over that.

And yes the uk is higher but I would rather it takes longer and we all get pfizer or modena, protection is much higher.

Covid-19 is not polio.

Right, CommodoreFlag

Covid-19 is indeed

Not Polio, duh

I wouldnt even say death is the worst case scenario. With ~10% of patients becoming long haulers, getting long-term covid and no longer being able to work due to chronic fatigue and other symptoms (therefore falling into poverty) is a punishment worse than death in my opinion.

If the SOE is going to have an impact it surely hasn't kicked in yet because Monday's number is up like 45 % or so compared to last week.

Vaccines too late?

blahblah222Today  06:47 pm JST

I wouldnt even say death is the worst case scenario. With ~10% of patients becoming long haulers, getting long-term covid and no longer being able to work due to chronic fatigue and other symptoms (therefore falling into poverty) is a punishment worse than death in my opinion.

Hmmm. Well I'd say it's at least very high on the list.

Ok Tokyo posted the number of tests done on the 18th

2,192 so with today's 727 cases that is a 33% positivity rate

Up to now 23% positivity was the high.

https://stopcovid19.metro.tokyo.lg.jp/en/cards/number-of-tested

So 12 deaths but 14 more with severe covid.

Are we now starting to see hospitalisation and severe cases rise following the rise in cases from the past 2 weeks?

No!

Like with other diseases deaths get the headlines.

But if we take Polio as an example, deaths were not the biggest problem but the long term effects even after recovering.

The same thing is now beginning to come to the forefront with covid as deaths drop.

25% of those that had covid had some form of post disease problems some minor like loss of smell or taste. Some lasted a few months some are permanent.

But as many as 10% are looking at permanent long term problems ranging from minor things like skin problems to major lung damage.

Your shortsighted view that only deaths count is contrary to most medical experts.

I'd like to add that the loss of smell or taste is actually the result of nerve damage near the brain stem. Most people think it's just a local infection in the nasal passage, but that's wrong. It's the nerves that transmit signals from the sensory organs to the brain that are damaged. So yes, this virus causes brain damage.

My husband and I arrived in the US on Saturday. We both got the vaccine at a local grocery store the very next day. No stupid voucher, no appointment. We just walked in, filled out some forms, and got it. My husband as a Japanese national didn’t even have to show ID. We said his passport was at the house (we hadn’t planned on finding the vaccine so fast), and they said it was no problem

The way Japan is dragging its ass on the vaccines goes beyond incompetence and almost feels intentional. Our stupid vouchers finally arrived in the mail last week along with a note saying no one under 49 could be vaccinated in our ward yet and there was no set date for opening it to those of us in our 30s.

We missed our chance to get it at the mass vaccination center in Tokyo because we didn’t have those stupid vouchers in hand when the slots were open, and now they’re going to close it at the end of next month.

My 60-something mother-in-law managed to get a reservation but just had it canceled because the gov is still messing up the logistics. They said she MAY get her first dose in August, but they really have no idea. It’s absolutely ridiculous.

So yes, this virus causes brain damage.

But not permanent paralysis or meningitis... Also the demographics, route of infection, are different to polio.

The statement that COVID-19 causes nerve damage is also misleading - It can in some cases cause nerve damage in what is likely a very small percentage of cases (we do not know yet but if it is like its cousin SARS probably 0.04% of cases). Saying that loss of smell is caused by brain damage is just lies.

https://hms.harvard.edu/news/how-covid-19-causes-loss-smell

"Together, these data suggest that COVID-19-related anosmia may arise from a temporary loss of function of supporting cells in the olfactory epithelium, which indirectly causes changes to olfactory sensory neurons, the authors said."

People and papers love throwing around these flippant comparisons to polio, the Spanish flu, or smallpox. To make it sound scarier I suppose (and it might even be well intentioned) but all it does is make people distrustful of real science.

It's reminiscent of the Great Recession when everyone became an economist. We are all infectious disease scientists now.

Good for you both *@knittyelf 7:53pm. **Perhaps someone means well with their positive reassurances but, any *death, that could have been avoided, is still a tragedy. We remain concerned about the terrible vaccination delays in Japan and those waiting like your husband’s mother. - Best wishes -

@snowymountainhell Thank you. My whole family in the US was vaccinated by the end of April (some as early as Feb). On my husband’s side of the family in Japan, only 1 person has been vaccinated so far. I really hope they can all be vaccinated soon, but it’s not looking hopeful.

This drop in numbers almost seems magical.

One year ago it was 510, still without any vaccinations. I don’t know at which educational institution they taught you to interpret that as a drop in numbers, but it’s a free world. Keep magically going anyhow. lol

Japan still doing well in the count. UK had 52,000 new cases in a day. But everyone is back in the pubs there.

I have had first vaccine in UK and second in Japan. - so I'm very happy!

@CommodoreFlag

For someone that claims to be working in virology.

Posting a Link to something published one year ago.

Very sad, you3 could have at least tried something newer, oh right the new publications and papers are like this:

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/in-depth/coronavirus-long-term-effects/art-20490351

@Antiquesaving

What exactly in your link contradicts what I said?

According to the Tokyo Gov, the positivity rate is up to 9.6%.

Yes and I would love the guy doing the math to do my taxes next year.

He must be a genius seeing not a single days in the past 7 days has the positivity rate based on the same numbers on that same website been below 10 most days were between 13% and 20% or more.

He must be that special accountant the one when you ask:

How much does 1+1 equal?

He replies: how much do you want it to be?

Up 225 over last Monday. The highest Monday count since January 18.

JT should add this stat in the article. I always look for this comment after every report.

So that stadiums can be opened to the spectators, as Bach said….

Bach is the Magician Man..a prophet.. Covid works as per the words he utters- somebody give him the WHO’s top post

I think what happens is that the numbers they post daily is just a preliminary number, and it takes 3-4 days for the full numbers to come in, which then they update for the past days. I didn't check whether the exact numbers for the positivity rate makes sense that way, but I don't think that the number of tests they posted today is complete.

Take any 7 days in the past start From a week ago those numbers are likely fully updated.

You will never get the infection/, positivity rate that was claimed for those weeks or those days.

I have done This never has the official rate met up with the numbers.

My only possible idea of where they get this is that they are only using the numbers from the Tokyo government public testing centres.

If this is the case then it becomes a bigger joke than these claims already are.

Just to make it clear, I have gone back many times to check the updated numbers of tests and infections to recalculate, never arrived at the low rates Tokyo claims.

But what is even more disturbing is that the number of tests done get periodic updates for past days, not once has the number of positive cases been updated.

This would be a near impossibility, how is it possible to suddenly find 2,000 unreported tests on a certain day but not one unreported positive case. Not one!

Hi athetes

I would like you to understand that majority of Japnese people(52%) are still against Tokyo Olympic games.

Some people still misunderstand the few people are protest against the games because Japan decided to hold it. but it is wrong.

CommodoreFlagToday  08:11 pm JST

But not permanent paralysis or meningitis... Also the demographics, route of infection, are different to polio.

Exactly; good points.

Just wondering, if crowds at sporting events are "super spreaders" , when will we see protestors outside the baseball (9,000 crowd last wee), Sumo and other events?

https://cn.reuters.com/article/olympics-2020-games/olympics-tokyo-spectator-ban-leaves-olympic-athletes-perplexed-idUSL1N2OV069

Many non vaccinated are more concerned and conscious

This is simply not true. I’m not vaccinated nor intend to be and I don’t care

a fast drop in numbers, how convenient, so shocking