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Toasted Heretic
Yes. Kind of disappointed with that.
Still, there is the priceless moment in the interview when the alleged GOPaedophile tries to drag a clearly worried news host into the whole dodgy (alleged) business.
Note that the host doesn't back up the Republican golden boy. Even he knows when to step away...
Toasted Heretic
I'll be sure to ready myself for the virtual pitchforks and expressions of distaste coming my way, in such a hypothetical situation.
It's not up to you, either, Chris.
Lazarus Knows
I'm glad you accept that conservatism leads to bullying and child abuse. Let's get rid of conservatism.
Good, then let's hurry it along. Why do you want to wait longer for things to get better.
Lazarus Knows
No. Artificial insemination can be used, which means that in this fictional universe that does not exist of a 100% homosexual population of Japan, childbirth could still go on.
Yep.
Not necessarily. Money is a thing that doesn't exist in nature, and was created by society, yet it has a very obvious use function for mankind.
No, it isn't. There is a really good use for people to have families. But a family can be something other than "a man, a woman, and their biological child". An adoptive parent is a parent. An adoptive family is a family. A family with two Dads is a family.
Yes. Two people in a relationship wasn't always the norm. Just look at the Bible.
Children in single parent households have done very well for centuries. You need to provide some evidence.
What about them?
Bob Fosse
I keep reading ‘we’ and ‘our’. Sounds like some kind of cult. I is better. I think this is great news.
Nagoya Chris
Once again, the conservative bashers can't wait to post their nonsense.
Moderator
Readers, no more bickering please.
Lazarus Knows
Why?
What do you mean?
towingtheline
@Thomas Tank
Why would you be against something that does not affect you or involve you? You are not being asked to do or give up anything...
Any steps or progress that helps to bring more love, happiness and belonging (family) is a good thing in my book.
Lazarus Knows
Typically same-sex couples, or couples where one or both of the people are transgender, non-binary, or similar.
Probably the municipalities offering recognition.
I don't know. You'd have to ask the municipalities.
Two people in a relationship is the typical norm in Japan, and indeed elsewhere. I'm surprised you didn't know this.
Probably because two people in a relationship is the norm. Polyamorous relationships are fine, in my view, but I recognise the legal difficulties they might present in the event of death, divorce, etc., so I can see why they wouldn't be included in these efforts.
Probably the municipalities offering recognition.
Lazarus Knows
Yep.
Lazarus Knows
Firstly, it's a question, not a statement, so it cannot be correct or factual. Secondly, even he accepts that it is impossible, so it's not worth considering. Finally, if you make it into a statement: "If all Japanese women were lesbian, and all Japanese men were gay, then a new generation could not be born", it would still be wrong, as surrogacy exists.
snowymountainhell
So, you “see” @BobFosse 10:04am. And, ‘thanks’ for reposting our comments to You from another thread about another, important social issue. Then, we agree, those comments aren’t “absolute nonsense”. In this forum as well, the context is just as applicable:
“*It’s reprehensible when ineffectual governments, ‘for-profit’ corporations, narcissistic celebrities and manipulative media headlines try to ‘USE’ social issues to divide people further, as a means for their exclusive profit and promotion**”. - Real actions by those entities are the only things that can affect change, not just formulaic ‘outrage’. And, all the cultivated bickering between “conservatives, moderates and liberals” we are performing for them is of no real *consequence.
(If you want our personal stance about ANY kind of government-sanctioned, nationally-recognized’, “legal marriages”, you’ll need to go back further in our ‘comment history’.) -In the meantime, only 1/4 of the day has passed, and we’re still waiting to see how much ‘hate’ can emerge before this thread will close.
Pukey2
It's usually the ones who are screaming out in anger the loudest who have the least self-confidence and lack self esteem. They're probably in a dead-end loveless relationship and they want everyone else to be just as depressed as them. SMS does not mean every single straight person on earth has to marry someone of their own gender. Just like churches existing doesn't mean we all have to convert to Christianity.
nakanoguy:
These people already have one foot in the grave. Give it just a few more years.
bakakuma:
Yeah, you must have been shocked when you read the footnote, telling young readers to get their straight fathers to get divorced and then marry other men.
Well, his childless ex-boss, Botchan, isn't really contributing either, and yet he was allowed to marry his now-wife.
Toasted Heretic
Isn't it a bit odd, conservatives keep on about how important the family is and family values.
You'd think that they would be in favour of more families...
Toasted Heretic
Progress will always be feared by the ignorant and hateful.
Well, of course. We terrify you.
Bob Fosse
I see.
Addfwyn
Until this is a federal standard allowing equality for all, it's something of a toothless gesture still.
That said, these kinds of ordinances help pave the way for that becoming a reality, as people realise the world isn't going to explode because two people declared their mutual love.
Thomas Tank
I'm against it.
Garthgoyle
So like getting a honor certificate at school. Makes you feel good at the moment but it really doesn't mean anything. And since city hall A doesn't know how much hoken you paid at city hall B, even more pointless.
Make it legal already and stop putting pinky bandaids on a large wound. No, it won't stop people from having kids or tear down society as politicians preach it.
Mark
Welcome to the 21st. century Japan.
nakanoguy01
All these ordinances are meaningless until the upper echelons of the LDP are willing to modify the constitution. And I don't see that happening for another 10-15 years.
Abbey
A 79year old oyaji . Says it all .
Howaitosan
Step by step ...
snowymountainhell
Will be interesting later in the day, to return and read all the venom and hate, stirred by this, from both ‘sides(?)’.
Michael Machida
"Tokyo ward begins certifying LGBT families"
Reminds me of The Wizard of OZ: We declare without further ado that you are now certified to have a heart, a brain, and are now accepted into The Land of OZ.