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Afghan evacuees to be allowed into Japan despite COVID border rules

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As they should. Well done on this, Japan.

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This measure will give them time to decide which Western country to seek asylum in.

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Key word here is "evacuate". It's going to be awfully hard for these people and their families to gain actual refugee status, or any other status from the Japanese government.

The government here is going to do their best to pass these "evacuees" on to a third country, as soon as possible. Don't be surprised when they are "allowed" into Japan, and then held in near detention status

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wait.

refugee means somebody who is escaping from war conflict.

according to valid international law refugees can apply for asylum in first safe country.

i had quick look at google maps. neigbouring Pakistan is safe country as good example.

two questions.

1-why hey did not applied for asylum in Pakistan and want come to Japan-country they have no ties with originally,culturally and in any any point of view?Pakistan in any case looks better choice for me.almost same geographical position,food,culture,religion and yes-its safe country!

2-why refugees may have exception from covid rule?just becase of fact they are refugees?very unafir from my point of view.

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according to valid international law refugees can apply for asylum in first safe country.

i had quick look at google maps. neigbouring Pakistan is safe country as good example.

Pakistan is an example of a "safe" country? Wow. I'd hate to see a dangerous one in that case.

Good for Japan.

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Bad news.

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Asylum refugees can ask for asylum in any country and not just the first one they arrive in.

Read the convention

https://www.unhcr.org/uk/3b66c2aa10

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Afghan staff of Japanese organizations who wish to evacuate from Afghanistan will be granted special permission to enter Japan in an exemption from current COVID-19 border restrictions, government sources said Wednesday.

This concept is not so novel; Biden's administration lets unvaccinated, untested, undocumented migrants flow into the US daily.

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This is the right thing for the J gov to do. Bravo.

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Some prejudiced people on this site, I see.

It's nice to see Japan doing such things, showing compassion to other nations, and increasing diversity of the country.

What's not to like?

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This is nice of Japan even if its been a long wait already to evacuate.

Pakistan i wouldn't consider a safe location for Afghan refugees.

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They'll come to Japan and have a holiday on the taxpayer's dime, while filling out their application forms to go live in the US or UK.

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@Ego Sum Lux Mundi

That'll be good news at least, hope they leave.

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@Thomas Goodtime

Compassion is better spent by keeping the people there and help Afghanistan, no more brain drain.

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@iron lad

Sorry, but from reading your posts, I don't think you fully understand the meaning of compassion.

It's nothing to do with brain drain. Japan is reciprocating here. Afghanistan allows Japan to have an embassy and allows Japanese people to work and live there. Why not the same rights for the Afghani people here?

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@Thomas Goodtime

It has exactly to do with brain drain. These refugees have better chance of improving Afghanistan, not whatever country they try to move to.

And no, these afghans aren't working in the Afghan embassy of Japan, they are running from the Taliban, their government.

Please stop the brain drain.

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they are running from the Taliban, their government.

@iron lad

Isn't this a valid reason in itself to show kindness and compassion to people?

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@Thomas Goodtime

No, that is not.

The Taliban government needs compassion, not these people.

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The Taliban government and the whole Afghanistan* need compassion, not these refugee people.

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Ego Sum Lux Mundi

They'll come to Japan and have a holiday on the taxpayer's dime, while filling out their application forms to go live in the US or UK.

so often in your posts, you quote your "good book" which is full of examples of helping others. Selective reading, maybe?

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zichi 12:05 pm JST

so often in your posts, you quote your "good book" which is full of examples of helping others. Selective reading, maybe?

How is letting these people into Japan/the West helping them?

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Ego Sum Lux MundiToday  12:57 pm JST

zichi 12:05 pm JST

so often in your posts, you quote your "good book" which is full of examples of helping others. Selective reading, maybe?

How is letting these people into Japan/the West helping them

Providing them with a place of safety. Japan keeping its word to evacuate those who helped Japan. Provide a safe passage to a third country if required.

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The Taliban government needs compassion

Oh dear

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@zichi

Well said.

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@zichi

These people should help the Taliban government, not seeking for "safety" while Afghanistan suffers.

That's selfishness!

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are Afghans (especially those who worked with or for foreigners) free to leave the country?

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RegBilkToday  10:00 am JST

This concept is not so novel; Biden's administration lets unvaccinated, untested, undocumented migrants flow into the US daily.

False.

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It's rare that Japan makes any exceptions, in any case. So this looks like they got and order from more powerful organisations like UN. Yet, refugees aren't superhumans, they transmit COVID-19, and shouldn't be let in the Japan. Vaccinated and people that are COVID free can't enter, but refugees with tons of other diseases can.

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Iron LadToday  11:42 am JST

The Taliban government and the whole Afghanistan* need compassion, not these refugee people.

We should show compassion to those that abuse others and run women into the ground, but not this abused and ran into the ground? Very compassionate.

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@P.Smith

These are the legit Afghan government and fought hard for their independence, and the majority of afghans.

So yes, they need compassion, not the "refugees".

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Iron Lad

The west poured billions of aid into Afghanistan over two decades but the corruptions run deep. Progress was made and girls were able to go to school, universities, and hold jobs like judges. The Taliban have put an end to all of that and want to kick the nation back to the dark ages once again. Let them provide for the people.

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@zichi

The Taliban is running Afghanistan and they are the legit government.

The whole world is trying to starve and isolate it, it is the one that needs compassion, not any "refugees".

Again, stop the fake morality.

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The Taliban are not the legit government of Afghanistan and were never elected in fair and free elections. They took over by brut force and have already killed many Afghans including female judges.

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The world is waiting for the Taliban to decide just how they are going to run the country and what previous freedoms they will end.

The people will need food aid but agencies can't go into an uncertain situation.

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@zichi

The Taliban are the legit government of Afghanistan and will decide Afghanistan's future.

The world (mostly the West) is trying to starve it, which is why it needs compassion.

Again, stop with the fake morality. These "refugees" are nothing compared to the actual Afghanistan population and the Taliban.

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Iron Lad

when was the Taliban elected in a free and fair election by the Afghans? When were they even elected? The Taliban took over from the legit government and are now responsible for what is happening.

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Iron Lad

"However, the Taliban have serious legitimacy predicaments both internally and externally. Internally, the Taliban have faced different waves of protests and resistance across the country, showing nationwide resentment to their rule. Externally, the U.N. Security Council passed a resolution in March 2020, declaring that they would neither recognize nor “support the restoration of the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan.” "

https://thediplomat.com/2021/11/should-the-taliban-be-given-afghanistans-un-seat/

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@Iron Lad

Free and democratic election do not a country make. The previous Afghan government are american puppets.

The Taliban is ruling all of Afghanistan, and the people support them, thus they are the legit Afghanistan government.

Who cares what the UN says? The fact the UN are starving afghanis and withholding funds means they shouldn't be trusted and should be tried for crimes against humanity.

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Above post is meant for zichi*

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Dictators and thugs don't make a legit government. The Afghans do not fully support the Taliban and there have been protests.

You expect the west to accept the Taliban and then pay to feed the people. There is no guarantee food aid would even reach the people. There has to be a structure and the Taliban has to provide it and guarantee the safe passage of the people working in agencies. So far they have actually killed people.

All the signs they give have been negative ones.

Are you a Taliban member?

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Above post is meant for Iron Lad*

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Iron Lad

the Chinese are in the best location to provide immediate food aid to Afghanistan.

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