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Happy Sun-day, economical use of sunny and bright day in Tokyo !

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Any chance this story or TV coverage can be shown in Beijing?

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One must always look forward to a sunny and bright day everywhere in the world. Life is more than good, it is the future.

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We luv you too China!

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China's comments on South China Sea are particularly vexing, and made people to mull whether China's harmonious rise is for real or gimmicky. I'll leave the postulation to others-- particularly the Senkaku islands affair-- but seeing where these are all heading, I'm happy to suggest a multilateral course of action... perhaps the ASEAN group inviting the Taiwanese, the Koreans, and Japan to the fold to enable a common, regional agenda in ensuring that no country has a unique preeminence or claim over the maritime ways of South China Sea.

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What was interesting about the last time China went into an anti-japan feror during the Koizumi administration, nearly all Japanese didn't have or display any animosity. It seems that China has gone too far this time and an equivalent anti-China sentiment is becomming apparent.

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Let's see... 3k in a country of 127 millions is like a drop in the ocean. I guess that the PRC's media is going to exaggerate it for reinforce the "siege mentality" of their society with their scare tactics.

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mareo2; best thing is to nip racism in the bud rather than deflect the issue.

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stevecpfc at 08:09 AM JST - 7th November

mareo2; best thing is to nip racism in the bud rather than deflect the issue.

Yeah, even if it is a small minority I am ashamed of see my compatriots behave like that. They make our country look no better than the people they protest against it. Madness is contagious.

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And the cycle continues...

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From a blogger named 'Clotario' on thelede.blogs.nytimes.com dated November 5th:

"So, basically, the Japanese government knew the Chinese were at fault but knuckled under and freed the captain anyway, and were then afraid of the Japanese people finding out that they are now a lesser member of the east asian community. Ah, just wait until the Chinese start throwing their weight around with us. Humble pie for everyone!"

How telling is this. Japanese did not come out and protest in 2006 during the Koizumi years because they felt secure enough in the notion that their economy was almost 3 times larger than China's. Now we look at Japan in 2010, an economy that is stuck in neutral at best, and surpassed by China in terms of economic size, along with Japan being pushed around by it's huge neighbor with impunity.

Certainly, Japanese are angry that they now are seen as a lesser member of the east asian community.

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China is so last month. This month is Russia. Hopefully, December will be Korea month.

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mushroomcloud at 10:15 AM JST - 7th November Certainly, Japanese are angry that they now are seen as a lesser member >of the east asian community.

It's probably this very arrogance that angers them rather than any economic status. After all, for a country 1/10th the population of China to even have been the world's second largest economy for this long never made the Japanese arrogant. Most certainly nothing like whatv we see from China today.

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I disagree with mushroomcloud.

Do you remember how many demonstrations were organized in all over the world while the Olympic runners were carrying a torch? The world is very happy for China's prosperity.

The problem is a CCP's aggression against neighboring countries in Asia.You know it.

In addition to that, China is not playing an economic ball game in the even field of globl economy. Plain and simple.

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Now China has something else to blame on the Japanese government.

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I agree with some that the poor kids been dragged to this demostration do not have a clue other than been "brain-washed" into thinking that the Chinese are bad. Seeds of hatred are been planted and it is a damn shame.

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Ossan: "After all, for a country 1/10th the population of China to even have been the world's second largest economy for this long never made the Japanese arrogant."

Funniest thing I've heard in a while. No, the Japanese aren't arrogant at all and never have been. HA! Well, to an EXTENT they are not arrogant -- they are insecure since being defeated in WII and sent packing from other Asian nations that they try to hide it with arrogance, but it's still arrogance.

I'll give the protests this, though; unlike in China (and not always, of course), at least the majority of protests here are non-violent (the ones without the nut-bags in the black trucks). Could be the general apathy, but hey.

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Japan has 2 peaceful demonstration against China while China had several violent ones against Japan and the anti-Japan/pro-China complain about Japan's racism!

As I stated on other posts Japan asserts once its rights in waters that it controls (and are internationally recognized as Japanese) using non deadly force but China uses deadly force on unarmed Vietnamese and has sized nearly 40 boats since Jan. 2009 and still holds some of the crews and the Chinese government and the pro-China posters here complain about Japan!

Talk about double standards!!

I have asked this before other post and I will ask it again.

Can the pro-China posters explain why the anti-Japan demonstration and violence in China and the use of deadly force and massive boat seizures in disputed territory it controls is acceptable to them, but ONE incident involving JCG using non-deadly force and 2 small non violent demonstration in Japan are not?

And I will note that the 4 other time I brought up this double standard by the pro-China group here you have all ignored it!

I guess no legs to strand on?!

It is also interesting to note that when it come to Japan and the territorial issue the Pro-China group here and the Chinese government call for 2 party negotiations but on the south China sea they refuse that option because they have the military force to push the little guys around!

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Japanese need to go protest in front of the companies who sponsor the press! Because that's the only way to get the press realizing how dissatisfying they work!

To all the J-bashers founding their hate on WWII ... this is not WWII anymore and Japan is not the threat anymore! They have been peaceful for a long time. China instead is a real aggressor with conflicts on almost anywhere all over Asia where not another commie country borders on them. They currently have 17 territorial disputes because they believe everything in Asia belongs to them. They suppress ethnical minorities like no other. In China you have no right to free speech. All the protests in China happen because they where not only granted but instigated by the Chinese government. Go demonstrate about something in China that is not pleasing for the commies and you will see how quick you are being deported to a correction facility! Now how arrogant is that!? I don't see any of that happen in Japan! Japanese are in fact one of the very few people where a demonstration like this doesn't turn into violent behavior. Why is this? Because in this regard Japanese are decent!

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Perhaps China keep prodding Japan in an attempt to get them to impose another closed-doors Tokugawa mentality, thereby quietly sweeping them under the rug with minimal fuss.

And, apart from North Korea, Venezuela, and Iran, which countries does China actually harbour a friendly relationship? They seem intent on becoming one of the most despised countries in the world.

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I am impressed by a number of posters here that are capable of deeper analysis and putting themselves in other’s shoes.

I am also appalled by so many posters that have the tunnel view that I am right and you are wrong.

Anyone would believe in an “edited” version of a video shown many weeks later is naive or ignorant.

Anyone who believes that America is on your side is laughable. America is only for American interest frequently at the expense of other countries. Conflict between Japan and China will harm both countries but benefiting America, 2 birds in one stone.

China is calming her people and Japan is instigating anger among her people. Can you see the differences?

Learn from EU to have a strong East Asia alliance for mutual benefit.

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Has anyone noticed that the Japanese government and companies do not give people time off to run to the streets to protest? Maybe that happens in government owned companies, but the Japanese believe that if you don't work, you don't get paid. Thank you to the people who were able to have the time to protest.

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3.000 out of 30 Million living in Tokyo; is there any significance other than a cheap headline for media like JT?

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Yet no report on the global protests that took place outside Japanese Embassies everywhere on Friday?

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Amazing how all the pro-China/anti-Japan group can just keep up all their BS and keep bringing up the war but ignore completely my post at 12:54 PM JST - 7th November when I asked them concerning this demonstration versus the ones in China and the Japanese handling of this disputed area with China versus the way China handles their disputed area with other countries.

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I am fed up with the increasing Chinese arrogance already, and am cutting way down on my purchase of products made in China. As time goes on, it is becoming increasingly clear they have no intention of ever freeing their people to make their own political decisions, and the current leadership in China obviously wants to keep their lock on power indefinitely, so I will try my best not to help them do that. Please remember everybody, when you buy Chinese products, you are helping to lock in the current "dictatorship" over there, and also you are helping to increase their military power. So if that is what you want, then by all means keep buying stuff from China.

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It is also interesting to note that when it come to Japan and the territorial issue the Pro-China group here and the Chinese government call for 2 party negotiations but on the south China sea they refuse that option because they have the military force to push the little guys around!

Yes, thanks for pointing this one out. It's important to emphasize that the issue in recent weeks somewhat evolved, it's not just the Senkaku affairs that our Japanese friends have to contend but it's also crucial to ponder China's assertion on the whole Sth China Sea maritime zone....

Remember, China now contends they have the preeminence to the entire maritime area-- much like the Chinese have preeminence to Taiwan-- and the announcement comes after the State Dep't announced its own doctrine over the Sth China Sea.

Call it provocation or bullying but the region can't afford to brush off and deflect the issue-- much like when the Japanese people avoided and were generally indifferent to the Senkaku isles during Koizumi era.

To the Japanese people insist on a multilateral approachment now-- it's your best chance!!

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"Why is this? Because in this regard Japanese are decent!"

No kidding! A young mom bringing out her children to promote hate! They are decent! They are justified! No Japanese has done anything wrong here! China is evil! This protest by Japanese people is all about how Chinese people protest! Exclamation marks!

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well i wouldn't call these protest "anti jp" or "anti china" just demonstrations. im usually don't like protests & think it doesn't accomplish much. but Im more proJP & like many more things about Japan than china. so in this case i side with the Japanese very much it was the chinese boat that Rammed the JP coast Guard. and the senkaku islands were always Japanese land.

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They are justified! No Japanese has done anything wrong here! China is evil! This protest by Japanese people is all about how Chinese people protest! Exclamation marks!

Reminds me of the comment from the NY mayor (well, surprise! surprise!) on apparent negative Chinese perceptions in the US:

(From WSJ, 6.11.10) “If you look at the U.S., you look at who we’re electing to Congress, to the Senate—they can’t read,” (Mayor Bloomberg) said. “I’ll bet you a bunch of these people don’t have passports. We’re about to start a trade war with China if we’re not careful here,” he warned, “only because nobody knows where China is. Nobody knows what China is.”

To add my comment, I agree, most of these people-- these protesters in Japan-- are probably one-eyed nationalists that haven't invested much time mulling the issue. (I would have added South China Sea to their own list to remove such doubt)

BUT JAPAN'S A DEMOCRACY, and so is the United States, and people are free to express their frustrations through peaceful marches, etc-- which I believe is a right ingrained in Western, democratic traditions. Political correctness and vast disagreements aside, no one should prevent these people from expressing their right to protest.

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From what I read in the article the demonstration blames BOTH Chinese and Japanese Goverments for the current situation.

Seen those types of guys/gals marching often past my apartment in the evenings saying US troops should leave, Article 9 this or that, etc. In short current goverment is useless and they still march when a new party takes over.

Just a bunch of harmless people.

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smithinjapan at 09:40 PM JST - 7th November No kidding! A young mom bringing out her children to promote hate! They are decent! They are justified! No Japanese has done anything wrong here! China is evil! This protest by Japanese people is all about how Chinese people protest! Exclamation marks!

Here are some more for you, you seem to like them so much, you mention them all the time! ... !!!!!!!!!!!!

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@limboinjapan You're making sense to me.

The double-standard is alive and well, and can easily flourish anywhere that people are neither encouraged nor expected to think critically. Being told what to think comes as a big relief to many, because critical thinking is hard work for many otherwise intelligent people. I don't know how easy it is in China to get access to competing sources of information, but I've heard that it can be difficult when that information runs counter to version of the truth favored by the Govt.

A similar dynamic is alive and well here in the US, but here it's entirely self-imposed at the level of the individual. Faux News finds a very large audience of people who prefer to get all their "news" directly from the Faux Network, apparently unaware that receiving information does not necessarily make one informed. But to them it's such a big relief not to have to think for themselves. They will believe just about anything if they are told it's true often enough. Some will say that I'm being overly harsh, but on the contrary I know whereof I speak. My "thinking" used to be very much in accord with the stuff peddled today by Faux.

Regardless of how someone comes to be mis-informed, once in that condition it's easy to accept a double-standard, especially one that touches on national pride. The Chinese will protest anything that appears to be an affront to their national pride, regardless of context. Recall the Spring 2001 collision of a US reconnaisance aircraft flying just outside Chinese airspace, that was forced down onto Chinese soil after a Chinese fighter collided with it. The US aircraft was damaged, the Chinese aircraft lost. The demonstrations in China were huge and lasted for days. It didn't matter to the demonstrators that the Chinese aircraft flew far too close to the US aircraft for safety by any standard, and that the margin of safety left by the Chinese pilot was insufficient for his own skills. Even though a Chinese pilot caused the accident, and even though the US plane was operating legally, the Chinese people were enraged. Kind of similar to the Senkaku ship collision incident, no?

National pride can be a dangerous thing, when the population isn't encouraged to think for themselves.

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Yet no report on the global protests that took place outside Japanese Embassies everywhere on Friday?

And there's also no reports of constant prayers and sit-ins across the streets of many Chinese embassys and consulates which takes place often.

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Globalic -

Very smart post, but you can apply that line of thought to more than this msg board.

Indeed it is unfortunate when so many posters posting from all boards, be they Chinese, Russian, Japanese, or USA, have a 'tunnel' vission of "I am right and you are wrong". There is plenty of that to go around in every community, no doubt (if you were trying to imply otherwise).

But to say that PRC is 'calming' her people would be a very hopeful event indeed, and it does seem to finally be the case thankfully, after the past couple months of letting the energy flow, so to speak.

Absolutely though, Trans-Asia needs more balanced, non-ideological harmony as a whole, with less old-era arrogance and fewer 'me-first' motives. Can USA be part of encouraging and influencing this opportunity, as well as China and Russia? Very much so. Yes.

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This protest appears to have been peaceful, but others are not. You can find video on you tube of a Chinese being attacked by participants taking part in a similar fascist march through Tokyo.

This time the fascists were protesting against China. But next time they will be protesting about non-Japanese. Remember: these people hate all non-Japanese, not just Chinese.

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What I find the most interesting in all these discussions is how every one of the anti-Japan group seem to focus on Japan's past as military and as an invader of other countries but in fact Japan was and still is more of an isolationist Nation that only had a very short period of invasion and expansion and quite short lived aprox 60 years.

If anything it is China that actually has the history of invasion and expansion going back centuries and that includes Korea and Japan.

Most of these idiot protesting would rather return to the isolationist years then do any invasions or expansion.

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Most of these idiot protesting would rather return to the isolationist years then do any invasions or expansion.

Make the GoJ promote multilateral approachment. MAEHERA, much like his Aust'l counterpart, probably still believe in a third way when it comes to the Chinese-- still preferring to cloak multilateral approachment as a way to gain understanding in Asia as if it's some scientific field work. The Japanese foreign ministry failed by not using the favorable circumstances to pursue multilateral approachment-- and he have been indecisive in the end. Without a persuading nod from the Japanese and its foreign ministry, regional platforms like the ASEAN group will never be seriously considered by a more emboldened China.

AT LEAST FUKUDA AND ASO figured that one in the past... but unfortunately they too, like MAEHERA, have been halfhearted on multilateral approachment... the region's running out of time!

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This time the fascists were protesting against China. But next time they will be protesting about non-Japanese. Remember: these people hate all non-Japanese, not just Chinese.

JAPAN can't afford to go back to its isolationist roots-- better for MAEHERA to bolster regional approachment with the Chinese. I think that's the best way forward. And with the Chinese now claiming preeminence over the South China Sea-- similar to its claims over the Taiwanese-- it's time the region become more decisive, and push for a united stand esp. on Chinese assertion over the whole Sth China Sea maritime zone....

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