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You can bet Tokyo is footing the bill big time. You can also bet Tokyo want the drill nearer, perhaps off Japan smaller islands but Washington disagree to Japan's aggressive stance. As usual, all these are instigated by Japan. This probably also got to do with Japan's election around that time, allowing Abe to look tough. There is a very big motive here ie to win big in the upcoming election so he can change the Constitution to remilitarise Japan again. Asians should all be fearful!

What else can we expect from Abe, peaceful intentions?

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China go back play in your sandbox by yourself!

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You can bet Tokyo is footing the bill big time. You can also bet Tokyo want the drill nearer, perhaps off Japan smaller islands but Washington disagree to Japan's aggressive stance. As usual, all these are instigated by Japan.

Three totally unfounded assertions. Care to post some sources there Tony, and no, your imagination doesn't count as a source.

Asians should all be fearful!

Yes we should all be fearful of the communist chinese who see the boogeyman behind every action and are constantly "warning" their neighbors who are simply conducting their own affairs of state.

I think its about time for the commies to start minding their own business.

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“We have always upheld the same stance on issues related to the Diaoyu Islands: to appropriately solve, manage and control the relevant issues through bilateral dialogue and negotiations.”

REALLY!!! Then what the hell are all those damned boats you send on sight seeing tours near the Senkaku's?? Do pray tell!

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There is no country in the world that has amphibious assault capabilities like the US has, and Japan wanting to train with their ally in tactics is priceless for them.

Better to be prepared just in case, and if China don't like it? Tough.

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Tony Ew

Why not Japan conduct the drill in South China sea instead of California? I guess California is very close to Diaoyu or Senkaku. May be the weather is better too!

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Tony, As always, nothing but the best in speculation and fantasy. I don't know where to start, Japan pays for a training exercise with trainer/mercenary U.S., Tokyo can't make a decision, Tokyo is aggressive, Tokyo is an instigator, Abe isn't tough, and all actions by Abe and Japan are all done to win an election this year.

Well, if China doesn't like (or is afraid of) Abe, they shouldn't be trying to take another's land. The population will vote for someone they feel can protect them from an obviously aggressive China. So, China is creating the fear. Abe is just addressing the fear, which is a sign of being responsible...

For example, there is now a report of the Chinese military being 10km inside of India, and they won't leave. Doesn't China have enough land without continually marching its military in to people's back yard? Are they that greedy?

Maybe the army got tired of the Chinese fare and decided to have some authentic curry for once. Or maybe the bird flu thing was too scary for the army, so the army decided to take up positions inside of India.

<>http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/china-incursion-in-ladakh-standoff-may-continue-for-weeks-without-further-escalation-say-sources-359135

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If 8 boats with who knows what under the hood isn't provocative then who cares what china thinks.

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Japan and America's drill of aggression against California shall not stand!

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It seems that anything Japan & the US do militarily is considered aggression by either China or North Korea. But yet, both these countries can enter other countries territorial space and it's not a sign of aggression.

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China has no problem provoking its neighbors. A Chinese platoon has set up camp 10 km inside India's territory, according to a story on NDTV. Now New Dehli has to stand up against Beijing.

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Is China going to claim soverign rights over the islands off of California, next?

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China has no problem provoking its neighbors. A Chinese platoon has set up camp 10 km inside India's territory, according to a story on NDTV. Now New Dehli has to stand up against Beijing.

yeah, india must stand up against China, India is already doing so through "diplomacy" not threatening 'use of force' also unlike Japan india has no militarist past. As such bringing China-India incident should be considered off topic.

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As such bringing China-India incident should be considered off topic.

I disagree. China whines about being provoked while at the same time provoking its neighbors.

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Abe's plan for reducing youth unemployment is to hire more troops and send them to war (eventually). Thats the policy adopted by our allie the US. The US ask its poor and unemployed to join the military, get shot at and blown to bits. The rich and powerful in the US never send their childern to war.

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The exercises could have happened on the moon and the PRC would have still complained, if they are crying now imagine when Article 9 goes bye bye.

Fear is plain and simple and the PRC is shacking more than one of their noisy subs.

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No doubt China will soon say California was part of Ancient China..

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China calls Japan-U.S. island drill off California provocative

If China has no intention to seize the Senkaku islands by force, then what in the world are they complaining about?

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I think by now China must have spent its whole credibility budget in a few short years. It might prove costly when seeking allies in the future.

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No doubt China will soon say California was part of Ancient China..

Ask, and ye shall receive. Not just California...

http://history.howstuffworks.com/history-vs-myth/chinese-beat-columbus.htm

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If anything, I think that Japan is trying to be diplomatic by holding these drills so far from the contested islands. China needs to relax a little and understand that not every action in Japan is based on their relationship with China.

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China is just mad that Japan is building a marine corps instead of bowing down to them and sending tribute. Japan should know its proper place in the world and that is subservient to a dominate China.

Gambatte Japan.

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Cry Me A River, Build a Bridge, And Get Over It ,China. Your act has already gotten old

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Time for a long overdue regime change in the Middle Kingdom.

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So training exercises halfway around the world from China are "provocative", huh? I guess I never really knew the meaning of the word "provocative" then.

@Tony Ew,

You can bet Tokyo is footing the bill big time.

Depending on what you mean by "the bill", I'll take your bet with every dime I own. If you're trying to say that Japan is paying all the costs associated with this training exercise, then heck yeah I'm betting you and so should everyone else on this board. Now... time to put your money where your mouth is. How much are you going to give me?

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Well, of course this military drill is provocative, it's practicing taking back, er, invading a Senkaku, er, Diaoyu type island from a hostile, er, defensive force that has taken it over, er, liberated it!

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come on gentlemen, the whole world's belong to China..... please accept it.

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China does things that make it appear as an aggressor in the eyes of the entire world. But then they follow up with some absurd comment that makes them look either crazy or stupid. The still haven't grasped that the same formula for controlling the masses through state controlled media doesn't work outside of China. If China were an individual, it would be displaying Anti-Social Disorder, a person bullying another and when the other person reacts or tries to protect themselves, they cry victim. Well, the United States is simply ensuring China that US Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General Martin Dempsey was being quite sincere in his statement concerning the Senkakus.

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ooooooohh, we chinese are so scared of the great United States of America! my Honourable General Martin Dempsey, please show us mercy!! pleasee........

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@hidingout

Didn't you notice I tie everything nicely together? This exercise is part of Abe's plan to boost his chance to win the nationalists votes in the upcoming election, and the next step is rewrite the Constitution. Can you also contact your J govt and ask if they allow the public to peek at their military spendings? That will confirm my suspicion. Nah, off limit, classified info, so you expect me to give you the hard numbers?

I think it is called 'simulation', war game simulaiton, you know, stuff that politicians, military guys do. Me, I just put in my two cents. There is nothing that I imagine that the career guys cannot visualize, only thing is they talk behind close door whereas I mouth off. Sometimes democray is too much eh? Why do I get so much negative votes when it is clear I am not the only guy with this kind of opinion?

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Ridiculous that China can complain about this kind of thing. But then again, there's a definite reason the drills are being held in this unusual location.

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Tony ew. most of us want a new constitution. Theres nothing wrong with that

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Japan is more than capable of defending herself. they can create the most sophisticated military arms, based on american equipment, of course. and their soldiers can be the most efficient in this world, they just lacking the troops.

Get lost America, let us have our war with Japan, don't get in our way. It's time to settle the ancient wounds. if Japan wins, we Chinese have no right to babbling any nonsense anymore. if we wins, we'll take over Japan and make a Rape of Tokyo. what's the big deal? Americans, please mind your own business.

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Get lost America, let us have our war with Japan, don't get in our way. It's time to settle the ancient wounds. if Japan wins, we Chinese have no right to babbling any nonsense anymore. if we wins, we'll take over Japan and make a Rape of Tokyo. what's the big deal? Americans, please mind your own business.

Sickening stuff right here folks.

"let us have our war" - showing that the thirst for war is alive and well among the communists.

"its time to settle ancient wounds" - showing that the communists true motivation for all their provocations and threats is in fact a burning desire to avenge the beating Japan laid on them a hundred years ago.

"we'll take over Japan and make a rape of Tokyo" - showing that the mentality of the people Japan is trying to deal with is in no way 'neighborly' but is rather sociopathic and downright dangerous.

The only thing restraining these nutjobs from acting out their fantasies is the existence of defense agreements between Japan and the United States. I hope Japanese people are starting to realize this. Furthermore I hope Americans are starting to see how wrong they were to outsource all their manufacturing to communist china and thereby help this grotesque behemoth rise up from the abject poverty it was wallowing in - a poverty that assured peace in the region.

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When was the last time... or how often has Japan and the U.S. held joint exercises where the objective was to re-capture an island. If that is a rare occurrence then yes China's statement makes sense. Either way... what Japan and the U.S. are doing is the smart thing to do. Military exercises are a must especially if two militaries may find themselves working together in the future. If China were to hold a Joint Exercise with North Korea we would be saying the same thing as the Chinese and we'd probably be more vocal about it.

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China will continue to try to get away with as much as it can. For all its size, it will be stopped by stumbling over itself.

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As a person who is not from either country in this dispute, and basing this decision upon two facts:

Taiwan is the closest land mass to these islands.

China recovered Taiwan, the Penghu Islands "and other territories" which Japan had occupied prior to (WWII). Source: The Cairo Declaration and the Potsdam Proclamation.

Japan should return these island and islets to Taiwan.

ex animo davidfarrar

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@kiyoshiMukaiApr. 26, 2013 - 10:22PM JST

Tony ew. most of us want a new constitution. Theres nothing wrong with that

A while back I wrote that I have no problem with the revised Constitution, hard to believe right? However I have some caveats: NO NUKES in Japan's military arsenal. If America is still in the Pacific to protect Japan, the Security Treaty must be revised to make the defense of Japan as a very remote option, as remote as US willingness to actually put boots on the ground to defend Taiwan. At this stage after the Constitutional rewrite, Okinawa serve no purpose as a forward defense, might as well jam all US forces in Guam!

Second, the UN/ US must be able to audit Japan's plutonium stock to make sure no diversion to make bombs of any type, including dirty nukes. Don't look for excuse when Japan is so stressed out at N Korea pursuing nukes. Japan is working furiously on high tech Epsilon Launch Vehicle, very fast launching of missiles, plus Japan's military industrial complex definitely have 'Lego' like parts all ready to assemble AT A MOMENT'S notice, all the necessary parts to make an OFFENSIVE missile and launchers threatening all of Asia, not just China.

The revised Constitution if it come to pass is Just A Formality. Japan ALREADY have the means to go offensive except that US is there to prevent Japan from doing so! You may not like it, but I am very certain US is in Japan to also make sure Japan don't make nukes and other offensive weapons under pretext, particularly missiles hidden in ultra quiet diesel electric submarines. This part of US mission in Japan is not publicized. That's my 'wild imagination' again? The world is wary of Japan, so I don't think my 'imagination' is off the mark, given Japan's history.

Just a reminder in case you miss it: this upcoming drill is conveniently timed to influence election in Japan to set the stage for a Constitution rewrite!

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As a person who is not from either country in this dispute, and basing this decision upon two facts:

Proximity has no releavance to soverignty as per Palmas Island case. "Other territories" does not include Senkaku which is acknowledged by U.S. and Republic of China during which time the Treaty of Peace was drafted.

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This isn't the first time that they conducted these drills so I don't see what the big deal is. I believe this is the eighth this year. But the only difference is China is crying about it as if they have a global audience. Possibily North Korea might have sympathize with them but this latest whining is mostly catered towards their brainwashed citizens as if there is some legitimacy to their recent complaint.

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@nigelboyApr. 27, 2013 - 12:58AM JST

This isn't the first time that they conducted these drills so I don't see what the big deal is. I believe this is the eighth this year. But the only difference is China is crying about it as if they have a global audience. Possibily North Korea might have sympathize with them but this latest whining is mostly catered towards their brainwashed citizens as if there is some legitimacy to their recent complaint.

Huh? Trying to get this pass me again? I ask for references for your previous post and you were dead silent. Funny you make claims you cannot back it up. This particular drill is about simulating recapture of Senkaku/Diaoyu Islands, not just another ordinary drill. So they need an island to do the simulation with amphibious landings. Show the world your 'previous eight' drills of THIS nature, and we'll go there to collect spent shells for souvenirs!

Quote: "Japan said that the joint drill, scheduled for June off California, involved the recapture of an isolated island but was not aimed at scenarios involving a specific country, Japan’s Kyodo news agency reported."

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only difference is China is crying about it.....mostly catered towards their brainwashed citizens...

That's about right. The party leadership keeps trying to use nationalism to deflect criticism. Unfortunately this type of tripe causes the neighbors to wonder "what if" and conduct drills.

I don't think that China has any claim to the Senkaku but they're going to try to push their territory just as they are with the Phillipines, Viet Nam, and India. It's an ugly behaviour that reminds me of the run up to WWII. For a country with such a long history China picks and chooses what history it remembers and what it doesn't....

I wonder what China will complain about when Abe scraps Article 9 and develops nuclear weapons - based on American equipment, of course, eh Mr. Tan? Except that the Americans have proven that their equipment runs circles around the stuff copied from the soviets. Going to be a really short war if that's what you want to start. The only roast duck will be named Robert.

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We have always upheld the same stance on issues related to the Diaoyu Islands: to appropriately solve, manage and control the relevant issues through bilateral dialogue and negotiations

Good. Then you wouldn't have to worry about this exercize since it will only be implemented if you failed to practice what you preach above.

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@nigelboy

As for the island capture exercize, they did it just a couple month ago.

http://www.jiji.com/jc/zc?k=201302/2013021000116

Aah, now you are putting things in perspective. Island retaking simulation just ONCE only, so stop commingling with the other types of rather ordinary exercises which China had seen in years past and is not quite as bothered.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amphibious_warfare will remind Japan how she got whipped by US. China do nothing to encourage such an exercise, so actually I think it looks rather silly as this kind of exercise just remind us of Iwo Jima with Japan soundly defeated. Why hurt the Japanese feelings with bad memories?

A I reminded Saketown, this kind of exercise is very expensive vs other ordinary variant, so China is laughing at the foolishness of it all, bleeding Japanese taxpayer yen!

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The line that China uses to claim the Senkaku/Daioyu Islands is, “this land has been an integral and inalienable part of China since ancient times and we will not allow a separation of the Chinese state.” That line is the official reason for China’s military occupation of Tibet today and their invasion in 1959. It’s the same line they use today in the Senkaku/Daioyu Islands. And it’s the same line they’ll use when they finally decide to invade Taiwan or Okinawa. Now, I’m not denying that China had nothing to do with the Senkaku/Daioyu Islands since ancient history. But the apparent justification China uses for an “integral and inalienable part of China” is “whenever it shows up in Chinese history.” At various parts in its history, one dynasty or another has controlled land in Russia, Korea, Mongolia, Tibet, Nepal, Bhutan, India, Burma, Vietnam, Laos, the Philippines, Taiwan, and even Japan. Even for Mexico, they can claim California and Texas from U.S. if you follow China's justification.

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Tony Eww Apr. 26, 2013 - 11:54PM JST A while back I wrote that I have no problem with the revised Constitution, hard to believe right? However I have some >caveats: NO NUKES in Japan's military arsenal.

Good idea. And NO NUKES in China's arsenal or North Korea's. Fair enough?

If America is still in the Pacific to protect Japan, the Security Treaty must be revised to make the defense of Japan as >a very remote option, as remote as US willingness to actually put boots on the ground to defend Taiwan.

And will China revise their 1961 Agreement with North Korea to match?

Second, the UN/ US must be able to audit Japan's plutonium stock to make sure no diversion to make bombs of any >type, including dirty nukes.

And the US/UN can audit China's nukes right? Or are huy going to act like North Korea too?

Don't look for excuse when Japan is so stressed out at N Korea pursuing nukes. Japan is working furiously on high tech Epsilon Launch Vehicle, very fast launching of missiles, plus Japan's military industrial complex definitely have 'Lego' like parts all ready to assemble AT A MOMENT'S notice, all the necessary parts to make an OFFENSIVE missile and launchers threatening all of Asia, not just China.

Japan is not threatening anybody. China is threatening everybody. Eveh if Japan became a nuclear power it would e no more of a threat to the world as UK or France, or India or Paklistan. The only country that would feel threatened is China.

The revised Constitution if it come to pass is Just A Formality. Japan ALREADY have the means to go offensive >except that US is there to prevent Japan from doing so! You may not like it, but I am very certain US is in Japan to >also make sure Japan don't make nukes and other offensive weapons under pretext,

You are really very much mistaken. You have no idea how much the US is behind Japanese nuclear development.

particularly missiles hidden in ultra quiet diesel electric submarines. This part of US mission in Japan is not >publicized. That's my 'wild imagination' again? The world is wary of Japan, so I don't think my 'imagination' is off the >mark, given Japan's history.

Yup you got it right, it's your wild imagination, a fantasy world to try and justify supporting an authoritarian fascist militant regime that is threatening all it's neighbors.

Just a reminder in case you miss it: this upcoming drill is conveniently timed to influence election in Japan to set the >stage for a Constitution rewrite!

In case you missed it, all this, the return of the LDP, what PM Abe is doing, all this has been made possibly by China's belligerence. Good job!

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If China were an individual, it would be displaying Anti-Social Disorder, a person bullying another and when the other person reacts or tries to protect themselves, they cry victim.

You could add persecution complex, paranoia and narcissistic personality disorder.

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Taiwan is the closest land mass to these islands.

Distance is not the only factor in territorial disputes. If one is to use distance alone to determine who owns what the world map as we know it today would be vastly different.

China recovered Taiwan, the Penghu Islands "and other territories" which Japan had occupied prior to (WWII). Source: The Cairo Declaration and the Potsdam Proclamation.

The Senkaku Islands were not included. iirc.

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China has become paranoid PERIOD.

Every time such country get to join with US in military drills, they keep telling "It's provocative"... The hell it is... Because China has enemy in all sides of their country. S2pid chinks... >.>

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@OssanAmerica

An island retake simulation is much much cheaper if Abe & US contact Nintendo and ask them to cook up a special Wii game. You know, jump up and down in front of a big LCD screen and watch how the Commie attack and 'pow' smack them down. Game over. Very cheap!

Jokes aside, I am not interested in the endless tit for tat. Why can't Japan accept reality that China is forever going to do sight seeing around the Senkaku/Diaoyu Islands and not actually going to invade? In case you didn't notice, have you seen any Chinese 'take Senkaku/Diaoyu Islands war game simulation'? See, all this 'retake' drill is a Japanese/American scheme to stoke tension in the area and I think many can see thru that!

The Chinese are smart enough and practice the art of war without firing a single shot. Meanwhile Japan is footing the bill big time for endless expensive military drills. PRC very clever!

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sfjp330

It’s the same line they use today in the Senkaku/Daioyu Islands. And it’s the same line they’ll use when they finally decide to invade Taiwan or Okinawa

I disagree with your logic. You have to remember China is the birth place of bible known as " The Art of War". I am absolutely sure that China will not fight the war without exit stragedy. When they fight, they will not fight no more than ten minutes. If it is more than ten minutes, they assume that they are loser. I guess we will be no longer alive when China invade Taiwan or Okinawa. May be our grate grate grate grandkids have grown up at that time.

China was a sick man of Asia and has been bullied and humiliated. It is understandable they will not accept any back room deal without their consent.

Even for Mexico, they can claim California and Texas from U.S. if you follow China's justification.

It has another debatable logic. Mexico lost the war to US. US got trophies of California and Texas. Mexico accepted their cruel fate. Japan lost the war to China and allies. Unlike US, China did not claim any trophies from Japan. China was not the loser. They did not accept the injustice. They want their backyard back.

Germany map shrinked a lot after WWII. They accepted their fate. Unlike Germany, Japan has been a spoiled and pampered kid of Uncle Sam. They do behave like winner. If Japan won back then, China is a big Japan now and speaking Japanese.

When I look at the map, Japan is not Mexico which is adjacent to Texas and California. Japan is more likely Spain which is a distant land grabber of Latin America.

The most acceptable outcome for all is Taiwan is a prince charming for that beautiful princess. Both Japan and China are so ugly for that princess.

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@Nathaw

I absolutely agree with your observation. What China is doing is basically to LEAN on all the countries that disputes with her in the China Seas, Japan, Philippines, Vietnam etc

The common theme here is China's Perception that these countries do not want to negotiate sincerely. So one can see what is happening now. China is pushing the envelope, 'cross the red line' without firing a shot, daring the other countries take military action. So far none dare to except Japan almost succeed in starting a war from the radar lock incident.

Meanwhile China is also upgrading her military esp navy and air force to back up her power to force the other party to negotiate respectfully with her and take her seriously.

China by doing so is hoping that the other parties are forced to change their minds and negotiate seriously, and possibly on China's terms. If they don't fine! China can wait till there is a change in government in the other countries and believe time is on her side. For this reason, all countries got to understand it make no sense to try to outlast China in this game of negotiation because a democratic system government comes and go vs a fixed PRC Communist government system with firm unbending principled attitudes.

As for the Japan/US drill, China will just make a complaint, as usual but it will not affect her long term negotiation strategy unless the drill is carried out very near to Senkaku/Diaoyu Island as a direct affront to her. US will never allow that to happen, that one can be sure!

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I absolutely agree with your observation. What China is doing is basically to LEAN on all the countries that disputes with her in the China Seas, Japan, Philippines, Vietnam etc

To what purpose Tony? Is it really as Nathaw and Robert Tan suggest above - that PRC believes "it's time to settle the ancient wounds" resulting from an eternity of having "been bullied and humiliated"? If so, how can you or any communist claim in sincerity that PRC is interested in neighborly relations? I actually applaud these two posters because they are so forthright about their feelings regarding Japan. We can learn from the words they post here at JT just how bitter and vengeful the communists are. And as unpleasant as that reality is, it is much preferable to that in which posters pretend that the communists feel somehow threatened by a few war games an entire ocean away from their territory, or gravely insulted every time a J-politician makes a visit to a shrine. So I ask again Tony, to what purpose are the communists "leaning on" all their (much smaller) neighbors?

negotiate sincerely

negotiate respectfully with her and take her seriously

negotiate seriously

I know you take the party line very seriously (as evidenced by the way you keep beating that "respectful negotiation" drum), so maybe you can explain something for me. I've never quite understood what the communists mean when they prattle on in their state controlled newspapers about "respectful negotiation". The first thing that puzzles me is that "respectful" is a subjective term. and one can easily imagine that short of rolling over and taking the shaft, there is no degree of "respect" that would be seen as appropriate by the communist leadership. That is particularly true if, as posters above suggest, the communists are motivated by a desperate desire to avenge old scores. I think the communists say "respectful, sincere and serious" when they mean to say "grovelling capitulation".

The second thing that I have trouble understanding is how the PRC imagines these "respectful and sincere" negotiations progressing and concluding. There is no middle ground to be found on issues of sovereignty, freedom of religion etc. The Japanese are not suddenly going to start getting communist approval for their cultural/religious observations. Nor are they likely to cede territories, or offer the communist party censorship power over Japanese educational materials. So I wonder if you could check with the higher ups and maybe run a scenario or two by me whereby the PRC would be satisfied with the outcome and cease, as Robert Tan put it, "babbling any nonsense".

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@hidingout

In a nutshell this is an imperfect world. Your perception of fairness and sincerity is not what China believe. China is frustrated that there is no willing honest partner to negotiate with. N Korea comes to mind. It seems everybody have trouble negotiating with her, so what to do? Go to war or just let her become a nuclear nation?

In China's case she is pushing the envelope with respect to Senkaku/Diaoyu Islands and other disputes, so that is where it stand today. Live with it, negotiate or go to war if Japan dare. That is basically what China is saying, but she won't make the first move. That's why I say the drill is a big waste of Japanese tax dollars.

How many drills already since last year? China just make a little low cost noise while Japan/US bleed precious dollars/yen. Very clever PRC!

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