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Black Sabbath
Just shoot them down already.
Moon1
Such arrogance, doesn't surprise me at all. Lets see some people moan about this instead of harping on about Yaskuni.
Yeh and we call on China to stop flying into Japans airspace. Hypocrites.
New Guy
Moon 1, they did not fly into Japan's airspace.
China is over-doing it, but what they are doing is what has been done to them for decades. So they are not the hypocrites.
Moon1
Ok incursions. Done to them by whom? They are hypocrites in every sense of the word not only on this subject.
New Guy
Okay. So I guess you don't know what the word incursion means, cause its the same thing. These were not incursions either.
Done by whom? The United States military, which Japan still hosts. Also those who use similar tactics against China and others are the Russians and the Indians. Are you actually going to say you are surprised the press would chronically fail to report violations of hostile countries' airspace by our own allies or ourselves? Think man. Think.
Anyway, China is trying to play on the world stage for the first time in centuries. Its a rank amateur but determined to prove it can play the game better than everybody else. It can't.
Moon1
Okay. So I guess you don't know what the word incursion means, cause its the same thing. These were not incursions either.
Well you are the one who wrote "they did not fly into Japan's airspace.", I was simply using your words. Call it what yu like we al know what we are talking about here.
I could't give a damn about India, Russia etc I am talking about Chinese planes incursions here in Japan - 117 times in 3 months - think man, think
New Guy
Yeah. Because they DIDN'T. Try and keep up.
Of course you don't! Too many variables for you to be bothered processing. Thus your reluctance to walk a mile in China's shoes. You might overload.
Which is why I brought up the U.S. military first and foremost, which has been playing chicken with China for decades. The U.S. military is stationed here, in Japan, and encroaches upon Chinese airspace and territorial waters from here, in Japan.
And AGAIN, we are not talking incursions. The word you are groping for is encroachment.
Moon1
That is not the subject of the article
So you have to resort to insults now - what a clever person you are.
If a country has to scramble 117 times it is a problem plain and simple no matter what people like you think.
New Guy
Are you going insist we remain so laser focused we never see the whole picture?
If you have some other explanation for why you can't or won't look at the big picture, I am all ears. But I think I hit the truth, and the truth is not an insult.
I never said it wasn't a problem. I was just explaining the double standards being applied.
Moon1
The truth according to you. You can make whatever excuses you like pal.
Commodore Shmidlap (Retired)
"Japan, stop trying to prevent us from encroaching and claiming all the seas for China!"
elephant200
Again, the Japanese were making a ' Marco Polo Bridge incident in the air' by blaming their so called possible incursions. If you need a pretext to escalate the tensions, you just keep boardcasting the jet's scrambling noises for more than 100 times to make things come true. The japanese public is believing.
Black Sabbath
"... but what they are doing is what has been done to them for decades. "
This is inaccurate. Only in the past few years has China been flying into the disputed air-space.
"Disputed" RIght. Japan has possession of the islets. China could challenge that possession in the World Court. Instead in choses to try to intimidate Japan. Japan has every right under international law to blow those planes out of the sky.
What's more. The US will back Japan if it comes to that.