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I actually read that article...It was both funny and sad. The world is crazy...

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“Alert the people of this sinister Japanese plot!"

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!

Some in the Chinese media need to get a life.

18 ( +22 / -4 )

Nothing better to do in the offices of the State run media that manufacture some pithy, infantile swipe at one of your neighbours? Grow up.

The toilet seats in Japan are entirely magnificent.

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I let China slide on the Diaoyu Dai or Senkakus because they are right. But when it comes to public toilets and the commodes, I will not let Japan be put down. Japan is the king of toilets. Something I miss. There are few or no public toilets in America, from What I have noticed.

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The Chinese aren't worthy of Japanese toilets.

18 ( +31 / -13 )

Toilets in Japan allow one to do his/her duty with dignity.

They really are thrones. (Did I spell that right?)

16 ( +19 / -3 )

I guess the government thinks better to boycott Japan than to have a clean a$$.

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They would be better served to do a story on how to properly use a public bathroom, and not let your child defecate on a train, just because he/she can't wait.

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WOW!!! China 'stooping to a new low'. Clearly China has a problem with its image of public cleanliness in terms of public washroom facilities and even with some of its people doing their 'business' in public areas so how do they shift that attention away? Let's make fun of Japan for having super clean toilets that keep one 'sparkling clean'. Very mature!

China needs to change their flag's colour from red to green for the envy they have on most things Japanese is out of control!!! China copies just about everything Japanese from tech to kawaii and yet they appear to have a hate on for Japan that is out of control. The day China as a whole matures enough to see this behaviour as counter productive will be the day that China begins to join the modern 21st century.

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If you read the original article, the main point is that they think Japan is able to make only good toilet seats and rice cookers. Considering how many posters here on JT basically think the same, bashing Japan for everything, included its business and technology, I believe it's a bit hypocritical if now the same users criticize this Chinese article just because is Chinese. Meh...

-11 ( +11 / -22 )

Clickbait ! The real news story is further down the page......Abe's wartime annivesary speech panel is full of revisionists.

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China media mock Japan's luxury lavatories.

I guess you could say that relations between China and Japan have really "gone down the dumper". (Sorry, couldn't resist). But, seriously, this is a perfect example of the childish level relations are between the two, and that is very concerning.

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This is a really crappy article.

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China will never completely dominate Asia because Japan is located over there.

They could not control the Japanese two thousand years ago when numbers really counted, won't ever be able to do it now that Japan has mastered technology as a science.

That's why China (and Korea, by arrestment) hate the Japanese.

A "small, little country" with a die-hard attitude (in many respects similar to us Brits).

Nothing to do with toilets really, it's just the Chinese venting their desperation/frustration in breaking the Japanese spine.

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Let them complain, it's just a sign of jealousy that they can't produce the same quality product. Oh and the Japanese makers are laughing all the way to the bank, what better advertising could they ask for?

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“Alert the people of this sinister Japanese plot! We must unite to walk our own path and our own national dream,”

THAT is sarcasm. Very well done. As for the actually approach by the newspaper, that's bad PR. (Do you see what I did there?) China NEEDs, is crying out for better loos, seriously.

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Funny. I guess truly patriotic Chinese use an outdoor hole with minimal privacy to do their dirty business. If the intent is to imply that rice cookers and toilets are the whole of Japanese technology, well ho-hum. Do they expect Chinese tourists to come back packing high tech space components or nanomaterials?

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The Chinese should worship the great white altar.

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Considering how many posters here on JT basically think the same, bashing Japan for everything, included its business and technology, I believe it's a bit hypocritical if now the same users criticize this Chinese article just because is Chinese.

What makes you think it's the same posters?

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S**t happens. Get over it.

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It seems that Chinese still would prefer their own old nasty lavatories with no doors no walls for each than very comfortable Japanese ones.

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What makes you think it's the same posters?

I said "if the same posters"...most of posters here are like that anyway.

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But it added with disdain: “World-class toilet seats are not what Chinese manufacturers aspire to make.”

Of course not. Just throw the 'used' toilet paper into the garbage instead of flushing them.

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Considering how many posters here on JT basically think the same, bashing Japan for everything, included its business and technology, I believe it's a bit hypocritical if now the same users criticize this Chinese article just because is Chinese

Alex -- huh? What makes you think folks criticizing China for this are doing it "just because it is Chinese"? As I indicated, I did it because it is so incrfedibly childish.

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What??? China is now trying to POO-POO Japanese washlets? Well, it's not as if China is FLUSH with quality toilets now, is it? I'll be interested to see how this argument PANS out, but before the childish nature of this argument shoots any rational point DOWN THE DRAIN, I'd better WASH my hands of it.

Seriously though, it would appear that the Chinese do not like clean backsides and haven't seen the Andrex puppy. That's probably why their papers are full of crap.. :P

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When I went to the restroom out in the country in China once, there were no walls separating each hole in the ground. Everyone was using umbrellas for privacy. I held it in until I got back to the hotel.

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Considering the quality of items built in China, it is no wonder that something as simple as a toilet would be highly desirable in China. Have you ever drove a Chinese car? Yep.

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Alex -- huh? What makes you think folks criticizing China for this are doing it "just because it is Chinese"?

Because many people here share the same message of that article, basically. As I said, it was mocking the whole Japanese industry, if you think it was really about toilet seats, probably you didn't read it or you are naive.

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LOL..this is so funny. Not sure which is more though- gettuing bent out of shape nationalism against Chinese citizens buying Japanese products or focusing on Toilet seats. Chinese "nationalism" so so utterly stupid.

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It just hit the fan!

7 ( +7 / -0 )

I said "if the same posters"...most of posters here are like that anyway.

Many posters here are like that, but that doesn't mean that the same posters are making both sets of statements. In fact, it's quite doubtful that they are.

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We should be focusing on developing new heights in technology like robotics and microchips

While crapping in the yard.

6 ( +6 / -0 )

There are many signs in Chinese in public restrooms in Tokyo these days saying it is, in fact, OK to flush toilet paper. Must be a mind-blowing concept for them.

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China media mock Japan's luxury lavatories

Look who's mocking. How about you consider more walls around the holes in the ground that you call your public toilets before mocking the wonderfulness that is the Japanese toilet?

8 ( +9 / -1 )

Chinese people aren't stupid and can see this type of editorializing as just another nationalistic cheap shot. They buy Japanese products because the quality exceeds anything China currently has to offer. Money talks.

8 ( +8 / -0 )

Thank you for watching. And tomorrow we have the "Popularity of Japanese sex toys overstated".

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"Alex -- huh? What makes you think folks criticizing China for this are doing it "just because it is Chinese"? As I indicated, I did it because it is so incrfedibly childish.

Alex was referring to people like, Jerseyboy?

The usual irrational bashers have nowhere to hide; anybody who reads this site knows who they are.

Chinese and their acolytes on this site are just jealous of what Japan is.

They despair because Japan won't bend over and take it from them.

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Yes, I bet all of those Chinese tourists really hate coming to Tokyo with its (relatively) clean air, punctual & clean public transport, clean streets and obsequiously polite service, not to mention the washing facilities. They must be hating every minute. [Rolls eyes]

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Quite ironic considering most Chinese toilets are a mere hole in the ground.

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Maybe China should focus on making that toilet seat before trying anything more advanced. And what is with the boycott? 1.) I'm surprised they would fess up that something like that is going on. 2) China is still bawling that someone smudged their Puma?

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Yeah, those Japanese toilets are going to take over the world....

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Toilet envy? Well thank for that ChinaGov, we'll still take your money even though you "hate" Japanese products.

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This "mocking" was surprisingly tame. Sound's more like "Yes, their toilets are awesome, but we're supposed to hate them, so stop buying them." At least Chinese citizens aren't buying that crap. They sure are buying these crappers though :D

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Considering that the Japanese media ran stories like the "golden hordes" referring to Chinese tourists to Japan, and countless equally offensive and ridiculous stories that often appear in some of the Japanese media (for instance Sankei News), I wonder why the western media like the AFP, the author of this story, don't more often report on equally pompous and ridiculous stories coming out of Japanese media? The only difference I noticed is that in China, they translate all their news to English, while in Japan, they save all the propaganda for the readers of Japanese language, while the English readers don't have a clue about some of the ridiculous stories that are printed in Japanese.

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Let's worship the PRC Chinese tourist who let their children do it anywhere rather than on Japanese toilets in Asia's Malls. They are following their ancestors from the villages across historic China. Why waste money on tip-top Japan-made toilet seats when you can do it on plane aisles, food-court corners or bushes besides bus station! Long live China!

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No matter what some Chinese might think of the toilet technology, I will NEVER give up mine. One of the best things I own.

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Listen to all you posters ripping the Chinese, as if it's all of the population's fault that they can't afford the same toilets that are common in Japan. It's a Chinese media person saying these things yet people here are attacking all of China and their inferior toilets, lacking walls or working plumbing, as if the people were given a choice what they could have.

Yeah, they don't have the same manners, like the impoverished people throughout Africa or in Europe who weren't raised with heated toilet seats or even toilet paper, and yeah some do have to use a hole as a toilet. That's because maybe they have to. Would you mock a poor Indian kid who has to use the river? It's not his fault.

Yeah, this Chinese media's opinion is absurd, so why give it such merit by reacting so viscerally?

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LOL. Oh the hilarity. The laughter is enough to really, really knot one's stomach. I've always known that the Global Times and other related CCP pieces are mere garbage rags, but complaining about toilets?

As usual, ever so desperate to keep up that "patriotic fervor and the love of the mother country", but by posting drivel about someone else and trying to pass it off as intellectual.

The ...hordes of tourists flocking over to buy bidets is enough to put the CCP's rabid drivel in its rightful place... down the toilet sink.

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I believe China manufactures a lot of washlets. Maybe they are just after the bottom end of the market.

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“There is no need to revere a toilet seat on the level of a god,”

Someone had to point this out? Reverence for the toilet seat has gotten quite out of control. Finally the Chinese have placed gods and toilet seats in their appropriate relationship, toilet seat, god and not the other way round.

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Japanese toilets with water-jets gives me male G-Spot orgasm. That's a bonus! The Chinese are probably jealous about this.

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“World-class toilet seats are not what Chinese manufacturers aspire to make.”

Do the Chinese actually aspire to make anything world class?

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Ha they're just jealous. Chinese are used to gross ones can never really compete with Japan on making luxury lavatories cause no one will have any idea how to use it anyway. And just wanna emphasise, they won't ever get there, they just gross.

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@harvey pekar

Would you mock a poor Indian kid who has to use the river?

Indian media and government wouldn't mock or threaten Japan needlessly. Maybe China should learn a thing or two from them. We just love it when crybaby CCP is exposed for all to see.

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Well those high tech washlet type toilet seats are out of stock at most major electronic store in Shinjuku and Akihabara as the Chinese hordes had bought it all up. Many of them buy three of them at a time.

On another note I heard stocks for TOTO had risen 60 points in just one day.

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In other news, Japanese retailers thank China for the free paid advertisements and press!

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Reports like this from the Chinese media prove the need for 'God-like' toilets because it's enough to give anyone the poops

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Harvey, this is nothing against ordinary Chinese people themselves. They've proven that by coming over to get the bidets, they really don't care and just want to go buy things or have a good time.

On the other hand, the Chinese media (the state sanctioned ones) and the CCP itself is deserving of the utmost contempt. Be picky on toilets? They sure have fallen to a new low.

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With some marketing savvy and self deprecating humor, one could successfully capitalize on China's spirited disdain for Japan and turn it for profit with a great sales pitch to the Chinese consumer :) Though it's doubtful that Japanese nationalists would support it.

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China media might mock them.

Saw 3 reports on TV this week talking to Chinese who buy a lot right in Japan.

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As I have had the pleasure of sampling the toilet facilities in both countries, I can unequivocally say that Japan has to be 'the' place for rectal exercise!

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Well Will Smiths renovated his toilet at his house placing an electric outlet just to furnish a Japanese high tech toilet.

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Yeah, chinese people like to poop the traditional way; in the wilderness among Pandas.

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I don't get what the Global Times is on about, searching alibaba for "electronic toilet" turns up all kinds of models with place of origin "mainland China".

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I suppose it's because it's a crappy subject the moderators are letting things go and not flushing the crap away!

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If I recall correctly it was in this digital forum a survey done in China and one thing that the chinese Tourist were surprised of was that you actually could flush down toilet paper down the toilet in Japan.

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I would wipe my a$$ with the Global Times, but i LOVE my washlete too much to be unfaithful ;o)

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how are they fitting toilets in their luggage?!?!

-1 ( +0 / -1 )

bet you anything top dogs of China's government and bureaucracies all have top tier washlets at home.

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There is something more to this. As any old China-hand will tell you, the nation has a difficult relationship with western-style bogs. Indeed, when China bought its first fleet of Boeing jumbos years ago, not one of the Boeing sales staff realized that the toilet cubicles on aircraft needed to have "how to use" diagrams for the Chinese flying public. As such, they were amazed by all the mystery footprints on the bowls.

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The birth of potty politics. What is the world coming to?

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Well, the government forgot to tell the Chinese tourists swarming Shinjuku right now. It took an hour this afternoon to get through the swarms just to by flash memory.

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Among many other things, the Chinese invented toilet paper.

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I sense jealousy among Chinese nationalist newspaper work folk.

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And Japanese toilet seats are wonderful. One of the things I miss when i am away from Japan.

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I can put up with a lot of things, but when they attack my flush potty they attack me, my soul and the reason for my existence.

Being able to spend a few minutes on a warm seat with water(in degrees of warm to hot based on my mood) kissing my bottom is one of the few unadulterated pleasures of life.

I would have asked the Global Times to get a life, but until they have experienced a bottom warming bum washer they have no clue what life means.

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I've lived in China - their toilets (and habits) are nothing less than savage and disgusting. They have no right what's-so-ever to mock ANYONE.

Print it.

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@kevin

Their toilets are "savage"?

The mind boggles.

Still, "The Savage Toilets" would be a great band name....

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All of this hatred thats generated in China, where does it come from? the general public? or is it the from the leaders? if this is what high ranking people do, well its about time they had a change of leaders

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@ Brian Wheway

My guess is that its both of column A and B. They both invigorate and reinforce one another.

People need to vent so the government obliges and acts in accordance to public opinion. Government needs to distract the people so they pump out stuff to lead public opinion.

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My guess is that its both of column A and B. They both invigorate and reinforce one another.

While you are correct, it's mostly the government stirring up the people. Some of the people in turn hate Japan. But if the government stopped pushing their anti-Japan propaganda, the hatred in most of the people would slowly disappear.

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Seems like China has nothing better to go on.

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now ain't that some toilet humor?

hahahahaha. haha. hah. see what i did there? toilet humor. put on your lollerskates cause the roflcopter's coming through.

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”not one of the Boeing sales staff realized that the toilet cubicles on aircraft needed to have "how to use" diagrams for the Chinese flying public. As such, they were amazed by all the mystery footprints on the bowls.”

Ah, now that brings back memories of a classic Bruce Lee movie...

But seriously, do a survey of travellers who have been to both China and Japan.

Sorry, China on this topic - you LOSE!

Of all the things you could argue about, this is not the one to pick guys! lol

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But seriously, do a survey of travellers who have been to both China and Japan.

So true. Chinese toilets are disgusting. And if they have toilet paper, usually it's been stolen.

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This proves nationalism is reactionary. In the old idealistic days the People's Republic would have vow to create better wash toilets. The would have called it the Great Squat Forward. Imagine the parades.

But today reactionary counter revolutionary nationalist ideology falsely labels to wash toilet a luxury. Nothing is futher from the truth. The wash toilet apparatus can be retrofitted to most western flush toilets. Any working class person can theorically own one.

The wash toilet saves on toilet paper and, therefore, pipes. They also ease difficult evacuations.

China would be a happier country with the wash toilet. And it would be flushed with patriotic pride.

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"most Chinese toilets are a mere hole in the ground"

Heh, so are Japanese-style ( washiki ) squat toilets.

From the movie Mr. Baseball:

Jack Elliot ( looking down at a Japanese toilet ( basically a hole in the floor ) in the locker room ): Hey Max. I need someone to tell me how to take a crap.

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I never buy Made in China goods if I can help it.

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"Chinese Media" does not equal "Chinese people." Some of the comments targeted at Chinese people seem really vicious.

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“That Chinese tourists swamp Japanese stores at a time when the country is facing a sluggish domestic demand is certainly not something to be proud of,” it said.

Why is it weird that Chinese themselves prefer Japanese products instead of Chinese one. Japanese product have higher quality. Chinese products are not safe and unoriginal. Most of Chinese products are copy of other product anyway. This is what happen when the communist idiots who don't know how to run country do not enforce copyright issues and product safety strictly. As a result, your own Chinese do not know how to innovate and create safe product for consumers so it's no wonder Chinese boycott Chinese products. Not all Chinese citizen are stupid and care about your anti Japanese propaganda.

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They are truly scraping the bottom of the barrel now. What a bunch of idiots... evil toilets.

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Please worry about providing clean air to breath first before worrying about clean butts.

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It would have been nice to actually include examples of the 'mocking' indicated in the headline?

Anyway, after reading http://www.japantoday.com/category/kuchikomi/view/golden-horde-of-chinese-shoppers-descending-on-japan#comment_1930775 It seems a likely response for the Chinese to discourage buying Japanese products. (not saying I agree, but come on, the Chinese buying 'too much' is a source of criticism by Japanese. Ungrateful much?)

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Japanese toilets are like a Spa treatment for you a$$

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Instead of criticising others about their toilets, the Chinese should first learn about basic sanitary hygiene, so that they stop exporting frozen berries infected with Hepatitis A...

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I hope Chinese people realize that Japan and Japan's toilet are not their enemies.

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I hate to break this to the Chinese, but they need to move on. Moreover, it would be nice to have one of those "bidet kits" for a toilet. Very sanitary.

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washlet in Japan was put on the market in 1980 its called "washiki"

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Anyway, after reading http://www.japantoday.com/category/kuchikomi/view/golden-horde-of-chinese-shoppers-descending-on-japan#comment_1930775 It seems a likely response for the Chinese to discourage buying Japanese products. (not saying I agree, but come on, the Chinese buying 'too much' is a source of criticism by Japanese. Ungrateful much?)

While the complaints about "buying too much" in Japan from the Chinese tourists are what I would say at very "preliminary" levels and not really warranting too much of a concern, I challenge anyone who downplays this behaviour to go to Hong Kong and see for yourself. You'll see the most prolific of problems being caused by that kind of behavior.

The problem is not so much with the tourists and their shopping binges but with their pathetic as hell government. They do nothing to help tackle the issues behind the negative stigma of "Made in China" and as seen here, try to force people to buy locally in the worst ways possible. ANYTHING, whether it be food products, toilets, etc, is fair game because the locals don't even DARE to buy locally if they can help it.

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"washlet in Japan was put on the market in 1980 its called "washiki""

Washiki is the Japanese-style hole in the floor with a piece of porcelein partially over it toilet. The washlet is also called bidet or shower toilet.

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RUN, Roomba-kun, run! You're next it the firing line. Ahhh, the Chinese media… give them enough rope and they will come up this crap (if you know what I mean). Maybe they are just tired of their newspapers being used for a better purpose.

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now this is one story that really folks, needs to be "flushed" down the drain.

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Let it go, let it go. ...flush

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" World-class toilet seats are not what Chinese manufacturers aspire to make. "

I bet. Let them stick to third-world-class toilets.

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Maybe the writer on the Global Times thought it up while sitting on a Japanese toilet seat.

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But it added with disdain: "World-class toilet seats are not what Chinese manufacturers aspire to make."

The paper is doing exactly what it has always done, spew whatever the Communist leadership wants them to spew.

The Communist leaders want the people to spend their money at home. They want them to buy over-priced, sometimes dangerous knock-off goods from state approved manufacturers.

The Chinese people aren't falling for what the Communist leadership is selling. Been to Akihabara, Ginza, Shinjuku etc etc lately? Hordes of Chinese tourists and they are buying anything and everything they can.

The Chinese people know what they want and it's not Communist approved goods. They want quality items and that's why they go everywhere else.

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Gimme a break, offer this toilet to every single Chinese person in China, I bet they would ALL accept it.

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That a Global Times should mock merely bathroom goods made in Japan. So so immature.

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to showguy 2. What is Nipponophile? ??

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China Media Mocks Japan's Luxury Lavatories

That's probably because the Japanese lavatories are cleaner than most of the kitchens in Chinese restaurants.

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But not only do "Koreans" (as if all Koreans were one hive-mind -- would you say that about your beloved Japanese?) not all hate Japan"

Only an ignorant would be unable to decipher that "Koreans" are not a unit; units allow for exceptions!

To demonstrate your "level" you went on to post this, straight after lambasting the Peeping:

“Now tell me Koreans don't have a perfectly valid reason to hate Japan?"

What were you saying about not tarring everyone with the same brush?

Forgot yer own wisdom, or that only applies when it concerns the Peeping?

"You betray a disturbing level of ignorance"

I'm pretty confident I have forgotten more on this than you'll ever know.

Notwithstanding Japan's wrongdoings, "Koreans and Chinese" hate Japan simply because little Japan will not conform to her "smallness" and is vastly respected and admired the world over!

Go anywhere you like, people will be referring to Karate, Judo, fashion, Myiazaki, cars, bikes, electronics from Japan.

And let's not forget Sushi and all the Korean and Chinese impersonators of Japanese chefs!

All this whilst Japan has already sunk, according to "expert" JT analysts!

And apart from Kung Fu who doggy stuff what else do people, in the West at least talk about China?

Yes, Chinese and Koreans have a serious case of penis envy, vis the Japanese.

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I travelled in China in 1989, and I still say to this day, that in all the world they had the filthiest toilets I have ever seen. If I ever returned to China and had to use their toilets it would be in wellies, not sandals!

The phrase 'sour grapes' sprang immediately to mind.

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"Actually, the comment is not painting all Koreans with the same brush. It is saying that all Koreans have a valid reason to hate Japan, it is not saying that all Koreans DO hate Japan. It is just pointing out a condition that could apply to all of them - whether or not all of them pick up that condition is a different story."

Do ya even understand this?

Lot's of palaver devoid of any other meaning than proposing that ALL Koreans hate Japan.

"It is saying that ALL Koreans have a valid reason..."

Isn't that painting ALL Koreans with the same brush?

Do ALL Koreans have/may have that valid reason?

Jeeeezus!

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Isn't his statement saying " Koreans"?

Whether they do hate or simply have a valid reason to hate is besides the point.

The statement refers to ALL Koreans, something he had lambasted the Peeping for doing a minute earlier.

Capisce???

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It seems you're the one who does not get it.

Try to twist it as much as you like, it's taking you nowhere.

He said Koreans, meaning all of them. Just like I had said previously.

Your attempt at semantics and interpretations is a futile exercise.

Maybe you'll be able to impress at Nova.

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In Law School I was taught what Regulations, Statutes and By-Laws mean.

I was even let into the distinction between yus publicum et privatum.

Not onto your twisted logic though.

Go back to the original post and then come back>

When I referred to Korea and China wasn't I applying your "condition" precedent?

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Because he responded to my post?

I thought you were at Nova teaching proper English.

Little wonder the Japanese can't speak it!

Moderator: If this rubbish is the best you can do, then please find another discussion board.

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But it added with disdain: “World-class toilet seats are not what Chinese manufacturers aspire to make.”

From the Global Times. Yes, very global indeed. The comment on what the Chinese manufacturers aspire to make does not in any way reflect on how Chinese copy manufacture practices has evolved in the recent past. Copy, produce, flood the markets. 2 million Chinese visitors came to Japan in the past year, The Toto washlets seats were very much in demand. These seats are easy to fix to standard toilets, The tourists know what they are getting. They know what the media are trying to deny them for whatever stupid motive. Millions of Chinese have no proper sewage, clean water. They should stick to the holes in the ground. Mocking clean lavatories may do the trick. Congratulations and welcome to China in the middle ages.

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I really have to chime in here...put a box for your feet while you sit to "ease difficult evacuations". Heck, sitting with feet on a step is healthier for every time. Kids who grow up squating will always get up onto the seat to poo in comfort..all those adults were once kids...

Sorry but, letting in and UP non-sterile water will cause you serious bowel disease...just use a paper cup ( and connect the washroom sink up to the hot water feed....) This means no Gspot adventuring

Have you used a washlet from some public location?? My god! I run in fear from them and use the old style squat toilets EVERY time. They have caked on...uh...chococake i mean...um...you do not even need to look down there and check... trust me...just think chocolate icing caked on from months of splashing and...well just imagine washing your friends 4 by 4 jeep full of fresh mud with a high power hose at close range....blow back. that sht really builds up!!

So Jtoilets in public;chinatoilets in public; same same. Of course there may only be a few centimetres of disgusting over here, but it amounts to the same unacceptable filth...

Never hold your breath while the spray is running...breath, breath...

Sorry to push the hygiene issue in front of all you spray-lovers, but i must protect the ignorant and unaware..ha. Well, blow drying your arse will take a long time, so it is an option you don't need...oh,here it comes...another image you won't wanna take away (maybe so stop reading now and skip on......)

ok if you wanna use the blower, you should know...just imagine the micro- whatever racing on that wind....

another point, only a slight amount of toilet paper is being preserved, so to speak, unless of course there are people walking away with spankin' clean arses and wet undies...

usually that wet spot is at the front...ha!

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Once I was in Beijing (2005) and one public restroom was the foulest smelling one I had ever encountered. I waited... I hope it has improved there.

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“That Chinese tourists swamp Japanese stores at a time when the country is facing a sluggish domestic demand is certainly not something to be proud of,” it said.

I'm going to take a different tack than my usual anti-PRC one and post some compliments to the communist government. I really like the fact that they are being consistent. The one thing I hate more than all (even commies and socialists) is people who pick a stance and can't stick to it when it becomes personally inconvenient for them.

The quote above, made by the state mouthpiece, is at least consistent with the communists anti-Japan stance. When I see mainland Chinese all over the streets in Japan (and I see them almost every day now) buying up cheap crap in drug stores and 100 yen shops I always wonder to myself wtf are these people doing here? Do they have no shame? There are certain countries in the world that I despise. I would never under any circumstances travel to those countries and spend my hard earned money supporting their economies. And certainly not for the sake of a toilet seat.

So I applaud the commie newspaper for sticking to the party line and for following a logic (hate Japan? Don't travel there or buy their stuff) that makes "sense". I hope the people of PRC heed the words of the party and stop coming to Japan to buy toilets, toilet paper, shampoo and soap.

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