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Chinese fighters repeatedly take off, land on carrier near Okinawa

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a few hundred kilometers away from the Okidaito and Kitadaito islands

which are a few hundred kilometres away from Okinawa.... so the Chinese ships are where exactly.....?

and as for sailing between Miyako and Okinawa..... the former is down near Taiwan, hundreds of kilometres from Okinawa.... so.... where did the Chinese ships sail exactly?

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Today's daily dose of " China is a threat, Japan needs to buy more US weapons".

I wonder if Japanese, US and every other country in the worlds military were also doing drills yesterday?

Why isn't that also news?

-5 ( +17 / -22 )

Okinawa is physically closer to China than Japan in some ways. China threatening those around them is nothing new.

6 ( +12 / -6 )

This mean Chinese missile are two minutes from Japan

-11 ( +4 / -15 )

@MrKipling

"...I wonder if Japanese, US and every other country in the worlds military were also doing drills yesterday?

Why isn't that also news?..."

Because China is the elephant in the room?

Because China is a threat to the world?

Because other countries did not have drills near Japan yesterday?

Because China already made threats to Taiwan, Japan, and a number of other countries?
-3 ( +11 / -14 )

If you insecure,in 2022 of China, Russia,NK,you will be insecure in 2023 of the same insecurity

-9 ( +5 / -14 )

This is about the media, tv, newspapers and Mickey Mouse copy and paste websites, trying to whip up, fear and anxiety against China, probably doing what the US pacific fleet is doing right now along with the Japanese carriers, sorry! Helicopter destroyers. It’s just a way to get support for a government policy too. Imagine the headline, American fighters repeatedly take off and land on their carriers. Sound pretty ridiculous, even more so when a jet literally has to take off and land repeatedly, Its called training!

5 ( +12 / -7 )

Buy your weapons from the U.S. before it’s too late Japan. Paid advertising.

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The need to practice. Good.

I remember reading about a similar exercise a few years ago where China only had 6 aircraft, but repainted the tail numbers after each landing to make it appear there were 60+ aircraft on the carrier.

Plus they have a massive shortage of trained pilots https://www.scmp.com/news/china/military/article/3194213/chinese-navy-struggles-find-enough-pilots-3-aircraft-carriers

-2 ( +4 / -6 )

Practice makes perfect. The US has 10 or 11 aircraft carriers so I'm sure they practice 10 times as much.

1 ( +8 / -7 )

Keep up the good work, China.

No one can stop you.

-15 ( +5 / -20 )

No where near Okinawa and in international waters. More fear mongering media hype.

-6 ( +9 / -15 )

For China, Okinawa is the same thing as the Senkaku Islands. In other words, it belongs to them, just like everything else near its borders.

-4 ( +6 / -10 )

Congratulations, you’ve mastered basic carrier ops in daylight in good weather. Well done.

Let’s see you do complex’s combined ops in a storm including refueling as the ski jump launch technique severely limits takeoff weight and it’s either munitions or gas.

-5 ( +3 / -8 )

Thank you China! You are helping sell the increase in the defense budget to Japanese people! Well done!

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I remember reading about a similar exercise a few years ago where China only had 6 aircraft, but repainted the tail numbers after each landing to make it appear there were 60+ aircraft on the carrier.

You remember wrong. When the then new Soviet Aircraft Cruiser Kiev made its first deployment the Soviets only had six Yak-38 VTOL aircraft on board. Each time one of the six was recovered it was immediately struck below to the hanger and a different number painted on the nose. They overdid themselves because at some point it was apparent the ship could not possibly hold as many aircraft in its hanger as there were different numbers on the noses of the aircraft.

6 ( +9 / -3 )

Thank you China! You are helping sell the increase in the defense budget to Japanese people! Well done!

And by doing so, raising the taxes on the Japanese people so that they can't even afford to have children slowly ridding the world of the Japanese people.

Be sure to thank China when it takes over Japan.

-12 ( +3 / -15 )

Congratulations, you’ve mastered basic carrier ops in daylight in good weather. Well done.

From what I can see the Chinese operate their carriers more competently than the Russians do even though the Russians have operated basically the same kind of aircraft carrier for about three decades longer than the Russians.

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For China, Okinawa is the same thing as the Senkaku Islands. In other words, it belongs to them, just like everything else near its borders.

The government controlled Chinese press often refers to Okinawa as "Japanese occupied". While there is room to debate whether China considers the Ryukyus sovereign Chinese territory or that it should be a tributary state of China (nominally independent but under indirect Chinese control with China controlling trade and foreign policy while the Ryukyus remit tribute, money, to China for their, cough cough, "protection"), there is no argument that China does not consider Japanese control of the Ryukyu Islands to be legal or legitimate and it seems China claims a right to alter the current situation.

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even though the Russians have operated basically the same kind of aircraft carrier for about three decades longer than the Russians.

D'oh. Head slap. I should have said even though the Russians have operated basically the same kind of aircraft carrier for about three decades longer than the PLAN. Can't go back and fix mistakes in posts.

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@stormcrow, aptly named. Ryukyu and Ming China enjoyed mutually beneficial trade and cultural ties for centuries until the Satsuma Domain invasion. China has never made territorial claims on any part of the Ryukryu Island Chain.

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And yet when China berates other nations for sailing in the South China sea, hundreds of kilometers from the nearest Chinese territory that is ok. Very hypocritical but they (China and its fans) refuse to acknowledge that fact.

Carrier operations so close, and it is close by maritime standards, has an obvious intention to make people nervous and to encourage talk. These operations could have been done in Chinese waters, or much further afield and nowhere near a regional neighbor.

Perhaps when China stops attempting to control international waters and airspace in the South China sea, others will stop "noticing and reporting" Chinese actions in international waters as well. It goes both ways does it not?

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chinese did drills in their waters.

just check other sources.

any more questions?

-4 ( +7 / -11 )

They are just preparing for the move in when those evil Americans finally leave. Isn't this good news for all the anti-U.S. people on this site and in the country? Oh wait, it's probably just a ploy. China and the U.S. are actually in cahoots to try to get Japan to buy more American weapons and bankrupt the country. Yeah, that's it.

-7 ( +3 / -10 )

The Liaoning, ironically, was made in Ukraine during the Soviet era. It's a jump-ramp type, which severely limits the load aircraft can carry. It's a sitting duck - China has more to worry about than Japan if push comes to shove.

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Dessert,

I got your points and I agree. My point is that the ski jump launch system is so limiting on the amount of weapons and/or fuel that can be carried, and their in-flight refueling capabilites are unproven to the point that it makes comparing CCP carrier ops to the USN about the same as comparing my mini-van to an F-1 racer.

They both have 4 wheels and tires. That is about where the similarities end.

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was witnessed about 60 times, while helicopters were seen executing the same maneuvers around 70 times over four days

I can imagine the Japanese guy standing there for four days counting. That's one, that's two, that's three... that's 50, that's 51... that's 60...

-3 ( +2 / -5 )

China is building bigger and better aircraft carriers as we speak.

China's military might is not something to scoff at.

-11 ( +2 / -13 )

Keep up the good work, China.

and what good work would that be !?

China is building bigger and better aircraft carriers as we speak

bigger is not necessarily better

China's military might is not something to scoff at.

seems like someone has a crush

any more questions?

yeh, is Ukraine winning yet ?

0 ( +4 / -4 )

Go home China you're drunk

4 ( +5 / -1 )

Well, what do they have to say? To defend what they did? After all, its still international water.

To shut everyone up, and end the discussion. In the name of "National Security". Just like that "guy" across the ocean. May i also offer? Everything they are doing its in view of that "guy". And, of course, that "guy" will/can say the same thing.

As for the rest of us? We should just tell them, both, to leave us/our interest alone, do whatever they want with each other.

-2 ( +0 / -2 )

The Juan de Fuca Strait, which divides the southern tip of Canada's Vancouver Island and the northern coastline of the US's Washington State, and is only about 30 kilometers wide between Victoria and Port Angeles, is often transited by US carriers that are heading out to the Pacific. It's quite common to see fighters taking off and landing on those carriers. What? Me worry? Pftt!

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Yrral your post are comical! Do you really think countries are afraid of China, Russia and the NK? Russia as we know now is useless!! NK that old analog loud crap doesn't work!! China half the copy and past stuff they make is nothing but ripoffs every other countries platforms. LMFAO it looks good floating and it looks good flying lets see if it work in the battle field. We all know its just made to break!!!!

If you insecure,in 2022 of China, Russia,NK,you will be insecure in 2023 of the same insecurity

-1 ( +0 / -1 )

The Juan de Fuca Strait, which divides the southern tip of Canada's Vancouver Island and the northern coastline of the US's Washington State, and is only about 30 kilometers wide between Victoria and Port Angeles, is often transited by US carriers that are heading out to the Pacific. It's quite common to see fighters taking off and landing on those carriers. What? Me worry? Pftt!

DT can probably correct me, but I don't think US Navy aircraft remain on US carriers while they are in ports in the US. The aircraft you see landing on a carrier near shore are returning to their carrier home as part of the deployment.

Canada and the US are extremely close allies. There is cross-training, probably at all levels of the military between our two countries. I've seen the Snowbirds, CAF's precision flying team, at military based around the USA, performing their routine. I suspect the USAF Thunderbirds show up in Canada from time to time too. Yep: https://www.airforce.com/news/thunderbirds-news/full-show-season-schedule Abbotsford, BC and London, ON in 2022. I've worked with Canadians on space shuttle stuff a few times.

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So long as it's international waters, that's fine

The same way that China should stop whining when other countries' aircraft carriers practice on international waters, like the South China Sea and Taiwan Strait

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DT can probably correct me, but I don't think US Navy aircraft remain on US carriers while they are in ports in the US. The aircraft you see landing on a carrier near shore are returning to their carrier home as part of the deployment.

It depends on how long the carrier is in port, whether or not it is in its home port and where in its deployment cycle it is. You will see aircraft conducting carrier ops off both coasts as a matter of routine so the pilots can maintain their qualifications. In general when a carrier returns from a long deployment it enters a yard period and the air wing departs for their home base so the aircrews can have some family time. But soon enough they are back doing "bounces" from a carrier training up for the next deployment.

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I can imagine the Japanese guy standing there for four days counting. That's one, that's two, that's three... that's 50, that's 51... that's 60...

If the Chinese are copying US Navy procedures as closely as they appear to be, right down to the colors of the jerseys of their flight deck crews (each color stands for a particular function the member performs, example ordnancemen wear red jerseys and fuelers wear purple and are called "grapes") then every carrier landing, or "trap" is video recorded and graded (your fitness report often rests on your performance landing aboard the carrier, landing grades matter). In addition the arrester wires have be replaced after a certain number of uses to prevent breakage (which leads to the wire whipping back across the flight deck breaking legs and doing serious damage to equipment) as well as driving other maintenance on the ship.

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