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sakurasuki
Japan now able to show to those labor "trainee" that there's path for future, like getting Specified Skilled Worker Visa no-2 that allow for those worker to stay indefinite.
Problem his sucess story is only one from many that living in harsh condition during trainee program.
https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/Japan-immigration/Foreign-interns-in-Japan-flee-harsh-conditions-by-the-thousands2
dagon
The system allows foreigners with certain Japanese language and vocational skills to apply for a resident status called Specified Skilled Worker No. 1, which grants working rights in 14 sectors, such as construction, farming and nursing, for up to five years.
Is five years not a time limit?
And it sounds like Japan will be getting highly skilled individuals (maybe engineering degrees) with advanced level Japanese language skills... who will only be allowing to work in construction, agriculture, fishing, nursing?
Sounds like a sweet deal for someone....
Capuchin
The single beneficiary of a government program started 3 years ago whilst Japan's population decreases by almost half a million annually.
Meiyouwenti
“in two sectors—construction and shipbuilding”
Many Japanese would be disturbed to learn that in the near future Chinese Specified Skilled workers could be building ships for Japan’s Maritime Self Defense Force.
kurisupisu
Presently, Chinese students are doing the jobs that Japanese government workers were doing several years ago.
Reliance on Chinese labor might not be the panacea that the Japanese believe it to be.
Mat
Personally, I don't understand the whole difficult visa issue. If someone can come here and get a job, they should get a visa automatically and without question.
Having a job means the government gets paid taxes, why does the government not want more money?
Bart Fargo
Seems a bit ironic that the world's second largest economy would have its citizens wanting to move to another country for a better opportunity.
That says something about China right there.
Strangerland
Not really. People migrate. Japanese people also go to China. That's humanity.
Michael Machida
The Visa program in Japan is used as a tool of power over other countries and Japan takes this a bit too far.
didou
Basically, it is like a PR visa, with restrictions in working for designated fields
Udondashi
The United States has restricted Visa for Chinese students at American universities.
I feel Japan should be stricter for the issuance of visas with Countries Hostile to Japan.
It's not good for Japan in the long run.
Aly Rustom
exactly!
thepersoniamnow
I guess Japan is now (very late) making more efforts to get immigration, but we have to realize it can’t be all the old way.
The LDP always kept moving here tough. Its very hard to get residency without being locally connected.
Also Japan wants cheap trained labor that has learned Japanese, only to come for 3-5 years and be sent home.
My American wife was told by Sumitomo Bank and others that foreigners could not get a credit card or was denied housing, only to completely retract and apologise about it all when I turn up.
Hardly the most inviting place.
Sven Asai
That’s not consequent. Shipbuilding as the sector he’s skilled in, that would have made the joke complete.
Pukey2
bart fargo:
Yeah, it says that China's population is a LOT larger than most countries and there are still some Chinese who haven't made it big time. If countries A and B have the same GDP but country A has 10 times the population, do you think the average person from A is as rich as B? Math 101.
Mr Kipling
Bart Fargo...
So Bart, where are you posting from? I think most on JT are not Japanese. What does that say about OUR countries?
Addfwyn
What's the logic here, that people should only move to a country with a larger economy? The United States is still the world's largest economy for now, but plenty of Americans move overseas for a myriad of reasons. Maybe he disagrees with his government and wants to live somewhere else, maybe he just has friends and family in Japan, maybe he just thinks it is a good chance to get in on something early. Heck, maybe he just really likes the food.
lolwut
Meanwhile, my spouse visa have stacked up as 1 year, 1 year, 3 year, 5 year and 5 year and the latest was issued as a 1 year. Why? Because due to salary loss thanks to COVID, I was late on ONE MONTH of pension during that period as I would rather my kids be taken care of. So, of course, with money trouble, the best thing to do is issue us a 1 year visa so we can pay the fee for a new visa again next year. What a scam...
Septim Dynasty
Vietnamese immigration will explode in Japan very soon.
Thom Harrison
It's all 20 years too late, of course. Denialism and cultural exceptionalism are at the core of all the debt spending that's allowed Japan to coast along thus far. The lack of highly skilled, talented expats (and students) is significant; without a two pronged approach to immigration, attracting high and low workers, Japan's slump will never be turned around.
OKuniyoshi
" Seems a bit ironic that the world's second largest economy would have its citizens wanting to move to another country for a better opportunity.
That says something about China right there."
I am quoting.
Poster is likely a westerner. and people wonder, why the West is losing credibility by the day.
It is as if, no Americans is working in another country, let along a 3rd country, and USA being the largest economy in the world, today.
Peter Neil
This is new.
I’ve always found that people hate two things. They hate the ways things are, and they hate change.
Kyo wa heiwa dayo ne
Is this supposed to encourage foreign workers to come work and live in Japan ?
Because it's not !
CrashTestDummy
When I was in Japan a few years ago, I was talking to a Filipino construction apprentice in a training program on a long bus ride. He said the program was extremely difficult and didn't know if he was going to be able to make through the few year program. I used to be in construction in the US, so I was interested in the topic.
CrashTestDummy
Or perhaps go back to China and build ships for CCP military.
justasking
5 years renewable forever. Keyword: renewable. It's not "no time limit". It's still subject for approval.
Brooks Slaybaugh
People who miss a pension payment or get behind in paying will not get PR.
It started in Nagoya then spread throughout the country.
Mr Kipling
Not really, the rules are at best opaque. Sometimes they seem to give PR out like confetti and at others deny obviously reasonable applications. A missed pension payment that has been caught up will not usually have any bearing on an application.
proplrhed
Wait till he tries to apply for a bank loan or other credit-sensitive service. He will quickly find out that even if he intends to invest his life in Japan, many institutions won't recognize that.
as_the_crow_flies
So I guess you're saying that many Japanese are very easily disturbed and suffer from extreme paranoia. I remember reading about the 'reds under the bed' anti-communist scares of the 1950's USA. It was not a healthy state of mind, a kind of mass psychosis that lasted several years in fact. It reminds me of those conspiracy theorists last year who thought they would check for election fraud by dark Chinese forces in the 2020 US election by checking the ballot papers for traces of bamboo. Perhaps the JMSDF needs to buy them some of them there bamboo detectors...?
konjo4u
Most applicants will already be working with temporary visas. Otherwise the language proficiency would be difficult but not impossible. https://www.ssw.go.jp/en/about/sswv/