Court rejects demand to evacuate children from city in Fukushima

Of course that have to reject it. By accepting it, they'll be acknowledging that the government is wrong and that a problem actually exists.

no, they have to reject it because the claim is absolutely frivolous. By those activists' standards, the whole planet should be evacuated because background radiation levels are "unsafe". But there is no place to go, because in space, the radiation exposure is orders of magnitude higher.

In your haste to demonstrate your knowledge, jerobeam, did you read the article?

The court acknowledged radiation in the city exceeded levels deemed safe prior to the disaster.

jerobem - Would you live there with your kids?

It(s add that the news articles always compare with Chernobyl, but they never take any of the statistics from that disaster to set standards for this one. There are many contradicting and damning statements in this article alone. In one sentence they state the children have to fo to the school and the J-Gov won't support their evacuation. Then, they openly admit the levels are high, which then goes on to state that, many kids in Chernobyl developed cancer, but not until years later. However, my favorite point and one I support is: "The government’s handling of the Fukushima disaster has led to widespread public distrust."

In your haste to disprove me, have you researched what that level is? We are talking about levels of a few mSv per year. Nothing you or me or even children should be worried about. It's a natural dose level in many places in the world. Some places in Austria, Norway etc have radiation levels that go into double-digit mSv/y. Nobody there thinks they ought to evacuate. This is pure alarmist hysteria.

This article IS hysteria.

Thousands of children got cancer after the Chernobyl disaster, but the cases did not surface for several years.

They don't explain why.

Thousands of children in Chernobyl were continually served milk with exceptionally high radiation and many other foodstuffs. They don't explain why.

Of course it would be rejected -- the court needs the money from the government, which needs a population to give it.

Jerobeam - a simple yes or no would have been sufficient instead of a bunch of politically ensured comments with no real conclusion.

So, jerobeam, you mean that Japan's own safety standards should be ignored by the court? I mean to say, you may even be right concerning the level of "safe" radiation and the prevalence of radiation in nature but if Japan set a standard and then the courts ignore it it certainly isn't a case of activists' standards and frivolity. They have a case. I am not trying to disprove you. I am highlighting the internal illogic of the system which you seem to overlook.

I have been in Koriyama I measured by my self randomly some places. I wouldn't live there with my small kids ever. Life in city seems to be normal like any other. People continue life. It is now up to personal Decision now.

@Heda_Madness

And where will the kids get their rice from in Fukushima?

Disillusioned...

jerobem - Would you live there with your kids?

I know you were not talking to me, but I personally would not.

However ... I would leave by myself. At some level, personal choice and responsibility has to come into it.

Shame on this court, shame on stupid and criminal nuclear lobby.

The level of radiation released by the explosions at the plant circled the world and set off alarms in Korea! How much radioactive contamination has been spread? Nobody knows as the plants are still leaking it 24/7. How much are we being exposed to? Well, how to calculate the dose is most certainly an imprecise art. It is in our bodies,food,car air filters,the dust in our houses,in the pollen from the trees,the water,the air etc. Children are much more prone to the ill effects of radiation so it is illogical to even suggest that somehow we can take risks with their health. How much radiation induces cancer in a child? I wouldn't want to find the answer to that question but the court in Fukushima looks like it might well do so.....

in effect, telling people to leave on their own if they were worried

what are you waiting for? court to send evacuation notice?Ah I see.

However ... I would leave by myself. At some level, personal choice and responsibility has to come into it.

The concept of personal responsibility is almost nonexistent in the thinking process of most people today. There are three process that usually come into play, 1. Who can I blame when I screw up? 2. Who can I get money from for my screw up 3. Who is going to do the legwork for me?

@Heda_Madness

And where will the kids get their rice from in Fukushima?

Chiba. Shizuoka. Iwate. Niigata. The same places that everyone else in Japan gets their rice from.

Do yourself a favour and read up on the systematic poisoning after Chernobyl. You'll notice that the first products that were pulled from the supermarkets in Japan were broad leaved vegetables and milk. There are reasons for that and articles like this are irresponsible.

Of course they would. But considering the government has now increased the "accepted levels" of radiation by thousands of times, it seems they are responsible for nothing.

Thousands of children got cancer after the Chernobyl disaster, but the cases did not surface for several years.

Any concrete proof (research white paper, from credible independent studies)?

No proof required, I would never trust the government to tell the truth about the levels or what they deep safe.....let me know when any of the nay Sayers here move their families on purpose into or near this disaster area...just because is is just perfect there.

Go and live there with your kids.

I'm actually bored with this response now. Because basically what you're saying is that scjence is wrong. What the experts from around the world are saying is wrong. Becaise they won't live there with there kids.

Of course I've been marked down for.my comments on Chernobyl. Presumably because ive never been to Chernobyl

But I did go to czechoslovakia in the June. And it rained. And I ate local vegetables.

So trust me, I've done a bit of research on this subject.

I'm still puzzled by this one.. You believe it's dangerous and yet you don't leave, rather, go to the courthouse to have all children evacuated from a fairly large town? I'm presuming all of these children have parents etc.. Who would be left? What of the families who don't feel it's dangerous? Would they have to leave as we'll?

So many questions.

If you believe it's dangerous there you should go to Okinawa or Singapore or Scandinavia or wherever you perceive it to be 'safe'. Not the local courthouse.

@ Heda_Madness

Czecoslovakia doesn't exist since 1992. Maybe next time you'd like to do a bit of research on the subject and go to Ukraine (especially Zhytomyr or Rivne regions) and eat local vegetables there. You can also visit hospitals where there are thousands of kids, who were born AFTER Chernobyl but developed various cancers (including terminal ones) because their parents were affected by radiation quite a long time ago.

And by the way, judge on Chernobyl by eating vegetables in "Czechoslovakia" is the same as judge on Fukushima by eating rice in Okinawa.

Czecoslovakia doesn't exist since 1992. Maybe next time you'd like to do a bit of research on the subject

It did exist in 1986 when I went there as a child. Which is why the fact it rained was of some importance to me. I researched it, I studied it. I'm very comfortable with my stance that the main reason for the increased cancers after Chernonbyl was in a direct result to the soviet's continual decision to serve milk, spinach and numerous other foodstuffs from the most contaminated area. There are countless articles on the internet that support this stand point. Not to mention thousands of university textbooks.

The court acknowledged radiation in the city exceeded levels deemed safe prior to the disaster.

Sounds like Windscale(UK), the residents didn't know they were being contaminated until a major fire occurred in the Windscale reactors. Has TEPCO been contaminating the area for a lot longer than people were aware? I would guess the answer to that would be yes.

Personally I would always recommend getting as far away from a damaged nuclear facility as you possibly can because my experience is that the real magnitude of a problem is always terribly understated.

And by the way, judge on Chernobyl by eating vegetables in "Czechoslovakia" is the same as judge on Fukushima by eating rice in Okinawa.

This is grossly incorrect. The radiation cloud from Chernobyl went over a large part of western and eastern europe - including the UK where food bans in certain areas were finally lifted 26 years after the disaster. There is no evidence whatsoever to suggest that food from Okinawa has been effected by they Fukushima disaster.

@ Heda_Madness

It did exist in 1986 when I went there as a child. Which is why the fact it rained was of some importance to me.

Have to apologize for that. I thought you've been there last June. Sorry.