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Daiichi Sankyo to launch COVID-19 vaccine in Japan in 2022

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Good! if you are going to vaccinate may as well keep the profits in Japan!

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End of 2022? Freaking unbelievable. But i guess it's better than nothing.

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The trial conducted on 142 people aged 20 or older

I hope that Daiichi Sankyo’s domestic trial included participants consuming only a traditional Japanese diet since Japan’s Health Ministry refused to accept Pfizer’s international clinical trial data early this year, claiming that the food and diet of the included Japanese (living outside Japan) differed from that traditionally consumed by Japanese living inside Japan.

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So the final stage (presumably the stage III) will begin in March 2022? then it will finish around September of that year, that is already too late even for boosters, I wonder what is the intended market for this vaccine.

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end of 2022???

By that time all the world world have vaccinated three times, and many are four or five times with booster.

The again we need to inject Made in Japan Vaccine??? Still no one is researching natural cure for it. why?? the politics and the medical company profit and it sharing ...........

This is what we see now.

Go to China and ask Chinese govt, How did they developed can created this virus.... They should answer first.

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@Asiaman7

There were not enough people of NE Asian heritage in their clinical trials to be approved for use in Japan.

There are actually significant differences in how drugs and vaccines are metabolized by people of different heritage.

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@proxy  07:51 am JST

There were not enough people of NE Asian heritage in their clinical trials to be approved for use in Japan.

Really? According to the article at the link below, Pfizer’s international clinical trial contained about the same number of Japanese as the Pfizer domestic trial conducted inside Japan.

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2021/09/08/national/taro-kono-vaccine-domestic-trials/

9 ( +11 / -2 )

2022?...like many other Japanese products/ideas - a day late and a dollar short

2 ( +6 / -4 )

2022 ?

Goodness gracious Japan.

1 ( +3 / -2 )

barn door....closed

horse.....bolted

3 ( +4 / -1 )

Right on time!

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Figured they would have developed another kind of vaccine besides mRNA since anti-vaxxers don't like it for some reason.

2 ( +2 / -0 )

Will this one actually work by preventing infection and transmission?

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I hope that Daiichi Sankyo’s domestic trial included participants consuming only a traditional Japanese diet since Japan’s Health Ministry refused to accept Pfizer’s international clinical trial data early this year, claiming that the food and diet of the included Japanese (living outside Japan) differed from that traditionally consumed by Japanese living inside Japan.

Or perhaps the health minister did not want to say that they simply do not trust Pfizer's clinical trials, and rightfully so...

It also was shown to inhibit mutations of the Delta variant in animal tests conducted in collaboration with the University of Tokyo, it said.

The delta variant will likely be irrelevant by the end of 2022. But I suspect this is mainly practice for future vaccines or other gene therapies.

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Just in time...for the 30th Wave....

New Normal, folks. Get used to Forever Vaccines, and Forever Intrusive Medical Verification Requirements!

-1 ( +4 / -5 )

End 2022? No thanks!!! Then not needed anymore. Like always Japan is too slow.

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End of 2022.

That QUICK?!?!

They should really take their time on this one and not rush.

I'm sure the rest of the world will wait for Japan to catch up to the present.

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Or perhaps the health minister did not want to say that they simply do not trust Pfizer's clinical trials, and rightfully so.

So they make a pointless tiny study of their own without any scientific meaning? that is irrational, specially because the clinical trials of all the vaccines approved for use in the developed world have the professional opinion of the scientific community in general to validate them. Any single country running a terribly limited trial without even letting all the professionals in the world check the raw data is simply much less transparent.

The delta variant will likely be irrelevant by the end of 2022. But I suspect this is mainly practice for future vaccines or other gene therapies.

Without a valid epidemiological analysis personal suspicions of people on the internet that have been repeatedly wrong in the past hold no weight.

Also, the vaccines available for COVID are not gene therapy, the natural infection with the replication of viral mRNA and the addition of non-structural proteins that modify the expression of several proteins on the infected cells would be a much closer example.

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Too late, Japan.

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142? Is that it? Is that the only guinea pigs they could find? A much larger trial needs to be conducted and must include people with all kinds of health problems...

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This could be a minus not a plus if it encourages Japanese to reject the available vaccines and wait for the "made in Japan" one, which may be coming, but not anytime soon. We need as many people as possible to get vaccinated and then boosted sooner rather than later.

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The delta variant will likely be irrelevant by the end of 2022.

Without a valid epidemiological analysis personal suspicions of people on the internet that have been repeatedly wrong in the past hold no weight.

Every variant has come and gone, delta is on the way out.

But I suspect this is mainly practice for future vaccines or other gene therapies.

Also, the vaccines available for COVID are not gene therapy,

When this exact same mRNA delivery technology is used for other purposes (cancer...) it is considered gene therapy. When that exact same mRNA delivery technology is applied as a vaccine, they somehow succeeded in getting rid of that gene therapy label just to increase public acceptance... but it's still the same technology; i.e., gene therapy.

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Every variant has come and gone, delta is on the way out.

That is a poor argument to say thing will be in a certain way at some time, specially when most of your previous predictions about COVID have been false.

When this exact same mRNA delivery technology is used for other purposes (cancer...) it is considered gene therapy.

Obviously, that is why it is not gene therapy, because it is not used to change any part of the genome of the cell nor to directly modify the expression of any gene. Your argument is like saying that syringes are used for chemotherapy, therefore draining an abscess with a syringe is also chemotherapy, which obviously makes no sense, even if it is "the same technology" the same tool.

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Just like the flu vaccine, this one is too late

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When this exact same mRNA delivery technology is used for other purposes (cancer...) it is considered gene therapy.

Obviously, that is why it is not gene therapy, because it is not used to change any part of the genome of the cell nor to directly modify the expression of any gene.

In both cases, the gene being expressed it that which is encoded by the mRNA. They are both gene therapies. Even the inventor of the core technology says so.

That is a poor argument to say thing will be in a certain way at some time,

No, I never said it will be a certain way. I don't use word salads, instead I choose my words carefully to convey a specific mean. I wrote that the delta variant will likely be irrelevant by the end of 2022 and that every variant has come and gone, delta is on the way out, I did not say delta has vanished.

specially when most of your previous predictions about COVID have been false.

Nah, you just claim that I am wrong, that does not make me wrong. Just like when I stated that SARSCoV2 likely came from the lab, you said that was irrational and that the scientific consensus ....

-4 ( +1 / -5 )

In both cases, the gene being expressed it that which is encoded by the mRNA. They are both gene therapies. Even the inventor of the core technology says so.

That is not what gene therapy is, an attenuated virus also does that, inject mRNA to the cell to make it express proteins, according to your mistaken concept of gene therapy all vaccines with attenuated viruses (including the first one) would be one, which obviously is nonsense. In reality gene therapy refers to the modification of the sequence or expression of the genes of the cell, which mRNA vaccines do not do (but the natural infection might). Someone that claims a lot of false things and have also been repeatedly found lying (including on his claim to be the inventor of the vaccines) is one of the worst kind of references to prove you are not mistaken, it would work better the other way around.

How about a well respected scientific or medical institution that actually say the mRNA vaccines for COVID are gene therapy? some university, laboratory, big hospital that publishes tons of scientific papers every year for example. If you can find none that should be enough to let you know this is not true.

No, I never said it will be a certain way. 

Yes you did, saying that delta is likely going to be irrelevant by the end of 2022 is precisely predicting things will be in a certain way. which is still a completely unsubstanciated conclusion which still have a lot of chances of turning up wrong, as other ones you have repeatedly written here, thanks to vaccination the appearance of new variants may be stopped so variants included in the delta denomination would still be predominant in one year, but hopefully in a less dangerous way.

Nah, you just claim that I am wrong, that does not make me wrong.

You have been repeatedly saying that Japan is achieving herd immunity since more than a year ago, it is completely obvious that was never the case. This is a very clear example.

1 ( +3 / -2 )

Please do it more quickly, please. Japan is wasting lot if money on foreign vaccines. Be self sufficient. Hurry up.

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