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Engine trouble forces ANA Dreamliner back to Kuala Lumpur

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Well, better than having it crash. There seems to be a lot of problems with this airplane.

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Hardly unusual, problems during development are normal for most complex aircraft/ vehicles etc.

The electrical problems were nearly three years ago and software issues are not uncommon with today's aircraft.

Remember, for example that, the 737, the most common passenger aircraft killed many people due to a rudder control problem which took years to discover before it was rectified; I don't think that a 787 has been lost.

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This is more an engine issue (Rolls Royce) unless it is found to be the 787's management computers but based on the fact that today's engines come with their own management systems, the trouble may lie within RR scope or an ANA maintenance issue.

The real harm here was the dumping of fuel before they could return to safely land with a reduced landing weight. There was no mention of it in this article but it's standard procedure when returning to an airport you just left from or when the flight has not burnt enough fuel to leave the aircraft at a safe landing weight.

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I will never fly in a Screamliner! Just made that name up...

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Dumping fuel is not really an issue, it evaporates into the atmosphere long before it hits the ground. Some people might take issue with that too, but burning it up is not that much better as the exhaust all goes straight into the atmosphere anyway.

You can't land an airplane set to go on a long haul flight with full fuel, you'll bust the tires or destroy the landing gear or worse, like a runway overrun if you try.

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This is more an engine issue (Rolls Royce) unless it is found to be the 787's management computers but based on the fact that today's engines come with their own management systems, the trouble may lie within RR scope or an ANA maintenance issue.

Do we know that the engines aren't GE's? Both ANA and JAL are firmly in bed with the Americans.

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Yes, it's the Rolls Royce engines, Brit's can't make proper engines.

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I will never fly in a Screamliner! Just made that name up...

If you travel much you certainly will considering how popular it is with airlines around the world.

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Yes, it's the Rolls Royce engines, Brit's can't make proper engines.

That has to be the most stupid comment of the day, so far at least. One thing though, most Brits know when and when not to insert apostrophes.

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I will never fly in a Screamliner! Just made that name >up...

If it ain't Boeing, I'm not going. Especially that POS Airbus.

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"ANA has been a leader in introducing the plane, becoming the first airline to take delivery as well as to begin commercial flights."

Yes, and that rush to be first simply so they can constantly repeat it is the reason they were the first airline to have most of its fleet grounded at the same time, with no fall back, and why they needed government assistance soon thereafter. Not exactly something to be proud of.

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@smithinjapan

Yes, and that rush to be first simply so they can constantly repeat it is the reason they were the first airline to have most of its fleet grounded at the same time, with no fall back, and why they needed government assistance soon thereafter. Not exactly something to be proud of.

What Govt assistance are you talking about? I think maybe you are confusing them with JAL. (JAL was also flying 787s at the time and as we all know received a massive Govt bailout)

At the time I believe less than 10% of ANA's fleet were 787s so certainly "most" of their fleet wasn't grounded - and if you've ever flown on a 787 you'll know that they are significantly nicer than anything else flying at the moment..I can easily understand ANA being proud to be the first customer.

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Yes, and that rush to be first simply so they can constantly repeat it is the reason they were the first airline to have most of its fleet grounded at the same time, with no fall back, and why they needed government assistance soon thereafter. Not exactly something to be proud of.

ANA has over 200 aircraft in it's fleet, 3 years ago when the 787 was grounded by ANA, they only had 17 787s in their fleet, so 8.5% of ANA's fleet was grounded, hardly "most of it's fleet", not withstanding, the grounded 787 flights were replaced using existing planes in the fleet, such as the 767 (which the 787 is designed to replace).

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Perhaps he meant over half of the long-haul fleet? I don't know the numbers, so I'm just guessing.

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Here's the background on the flawed aircraft: http://www.aljazeera.com/investigations/boeing787/

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Perhaps he meant over half of the long-haul fleet?

Perhaps he just commented without thinking, and everything in the comment was spurious.

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Here's the background on the flawed aircraft: http://www.aljazeera.com/investigations/boeing787/

Yeah. Al Jazeera hasn't had the best record on "investigations". Despite their "star" witness telling them he made it all up to make himself seem important and retracting his comments, they still went ahead with the "investigative report" saying that Peyton Manning had Human Growth Hormone shipped to his house.

Flights by all models of aircraft are aborted all the time due to engine problems, but when it's a 787 everyone nods knowingly while saying "figures". News flash people, there's a reason EVERY AIRCRAFT IN USE HAS A PUBLISHED ENGINE-OUT PROCEDURE. It's because it happens to every model of aircraft in use, not just 787's. The plane returned to the airport safely and that's the end of that story.

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