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The most common causes and motives for suicide among those in their 20s were health and work issues, as well as economic problems involving making a living.

Sadly this is a global issue, and the core issues will not be addressed because that would threaten the interests of the corporatocracy.

https://www.thenation.com/article/culture/case-deaton-deaths-of-despair-book-review/

In the US lifespans are declining and Japan may undergo similar pressures despite a generally healthier population.

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Sadly this is a global issue, and the core issues will not be addressed because that would threaten the interests of the corporatocracy.

This is about JAPAN.

have some respect and acknowledge the good work that's being done to address the suicide issues in Japan by Japanese.

Not everything relates to the USA automatically.

This is Japan !

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Is not that hard to that in Japan, many of them just lonely need someone to listen.

So to help them just listen and reply with soudesune all the time.

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This is about JAPAN.

have some respect and acknowledge the good work that's being done to address the suicide issues in Japan by Japanese.

And you should care about Japanese people; not some abstraction like the economy or national pride.

https://hgpi.org/wp-content/uploads/Suicide%20Issue%20HGPI%20English%20v2.pdf

I suspect these young people do need someone to listen to their real, personal issues and not just be fed platitudes.

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Suicide is forbidden in Islam. I think Christianity is the same.

That's why I never thought of it as a solution!

But what was interesting to me was this verse from the Quran

"No one despairs of God's mercy except the disbelievers"

It means that one should not despair of God's mercy

This means all those millions of people who suffered hardship in their poverty, but continued and hardship gave way to ease

However, for a good and purposeful life, it should be accepted that we need truth, we need the divine religion, which really connects us to God,

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I think many struggle during the changes, both physically (hormones) and societal during this stage of life. A multitude of factors compound the issue. I think any idea to help ground the susceptible are worthy. My life experience says the vast majority of the issues are temporary and the individual's solution is permanent.

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'Suicide is forbidden in Islam....'

Really - and what's the punishment going to be ? Death penalty ?

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Students would probably do much better than trained "professionals," who often, with their medication, bring about the condition in the first place.

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Medication is good for stabilizing people and for some living in terrible conditions, may be a lifelong necessity.

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Sometimes you just need too be an ear that listens and give a shoulder to lean/cry on........

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High rates of suicide have always been the case in Japan. Take a look at how the draconian education system works, how subservience prevails and the inability or the acceptance of looking outside of the box.

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have some respect and acknowledge the good work that's being done to address the suicide issues in Japan by Japanese.

And you should care about Japanese people; not some abstraction like the economy or national pride.

Dagon i do !

In actual fact my full-time job is protecting and providing for Japanese public

The article is about Japanese domestic issues and not about global or American issues.

Don't distract from articles due appreciated directed at Japanese efforts to address Japanese problems by making the conversation about what you think it should be.

It's about Japan and Japanese nothing else.

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Yes it helps, better than any Psychologist, the young understand each others very well.

Well Done.

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If such a program can prevent even one suicide from occurring, then it’s been a victory of sorts.

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Antidepressant drugs can have serious side effects. Should only be prescribed when other methods like therapy are not working.

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Sometimes you just need too be an ear that listens and give a shoulder to lean/cry on........

Indeed. Most of the problems in life and the world is due to people feeling they aren't being listened to.

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For many sufferers, depression is deep-rooted and can be formed by childhood experiences.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4677006/

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It is so very sad and heart breaking that many young people are choosing to committing suicide, which they see as their only option. But as a point of interest about these, were the number of cases higher or lower before social media sites became far more prevalent. People in general are just not talking to each other these days, most, if not all their interactions, are done online. I am sure some of the answers could be found here.

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A very disturbing recent development is the group suicides organized online.

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I think this must be treated with utmost urgency.

Everyone must be taught that life is precious and worth living.

Except for misandrist divorce lawyers. They're not worth anything.

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There is a service in Japanese and English called Inochi no Denwa / Tokyo English Life Line (TELL) that provides telephone counseling from trained volunteer telephone counselors that must undergo weekly all day trainings for 3 months and also pay for it. This helps weed out those not 100% into it. TELL is also part of the Federation of Life Line Services so is required to maintain service standards. Sadly, both services get little support from the government and many people are unaware. I think Inochi no Denwa even has a kids line or at least they used to.

Attending one seminar while perhaps helpful, in no way provides enough training to deal with suicidal people which is often a very complicated problem with many issues. Giving the wrong advice or support could push the person to go through with it. Others are going to do it regardless. Training is also to help the supporter deal with these issues as well which can be traumatic in of themselves.

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wallaceToday 12:09 pm JST

Antidepressant drugs can have serious side effects. Should only be prescribed when other methods like therapy are not working.

The SSRIs basically cause appetite changes, reduced sex drive, feelings of "flatness", and some long term memory issues. That's pretty darn safe as far as drugs go. The withdrawal can be a b*tch but not in a causing depression sort of way.

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Bobs Your Uncle

wallace

For many sufferers, depression is deep-rooted and can be formed by childhood experiences.

> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4677006/

> Depression, as far as I experienced, and I suspect it is similar for most, is just paying too much attention to that negative voice/narrator in the head. Stay active and busy and keep your body healthy. Meditate and develop an awareness practice (often called 'mindfulness').

I have not suffered from depression myself but your answer is far too simplistic. if people were able to turn off the "voice in their heads" they probably wouldn't have a problem. But the root causes are much deeper than that. The causes of depression are vast. Bullying at school, drug and alcohol abuse. Lack of physical and mental abilities. Diseases and bad health. too many to list here.

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Are there suicide and crisis hotlines in Japan? What about counseling services at universities? While lending an ear and shoulder is a good start, sometimes things are so dire, the person needs professional help.

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Suicides have been constant and it sucks. Of course the government doesn't tell people to workout and get sunshine and think for themselves.

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where people dismiss revelations about a friend's wish to die as silly or not worth discussing.

To deal with such cases, Ota recommends people instead take a pause and find out why a friend is suffering.

The key word here is ‘to dismiss’

If those people who say ‘please dont tell me about your suicide cause its a bad topic to talk about and to listen to’ ACTUALLY CARED about their friends setious problem they wouldnt take it so lightly.

the root problem of high rates of suicides, not only in Japan, are failed family systems and general decline of true empathy in people. True empathy makes you care for real and almost magically is felt by the sufferer since they 100% can detect if the concern is not shallow and sincere and just that feeling can help person go through another day. Families will always be either a power that makes a person reselient in later years or a factor that eventually leads into more despair.

professionals who are themselves survivors will always be the best therapists.

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It's the way they have learned to believe they are that voice in their head telling them their life is hell, they are terrible people and nobody loves them.

I would have to agree with this. I envy people who don’t have this damn tormenter in their own brain.

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"At a time when suicide rates remain high among young people in Japan, some college students are coming together to learn what they can do to detect the telltale signs of a friend in trouble and become suicide prevention guardians."

While I applaud the effort to get young people to help, why not help society get rid of some of the social stigma from seeking PROFESSIONAL help and getting it to those who need it so there is less suicide? Young people MIGHT be able to help in some small way in cases that are not serious, but it is highly doubtful they will have any impact on a person that is severely distressed and has decided to kill him/herself. They just don't have the proper tools to deal with it and might even seal the deal, so to speak, though I would guess unintentionally. They can be an ear for listening, but that's all. If that helps, great, but again, start getting kids some REAL help, NOW. Adults too, for that matter.

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Pseudonymouse: "have some respect and acknowledge the good work that's being done to address the suicide issues in Japan by Japanese."

Sorry, bud, but the nation is SEVERELY lacking when it comes to addressing the issue and has one of the world's -- if not THE world's highest! -- teen suicide issues, with nothing positive being done about it. Neglect and hope that it'll go away seems to be the #1 way of dealing with the issue, and lest we forget the last "gate keepers" the government called on, AKB48.

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dagonFeb. 11  07:09 am JST

> I suspect these young people do need someone to listen to their real, personal issues and not just be fed platitudes.

There is a lot of pressures and stresses in this cold unhuman world today. The old ways and answers are not sufficient anymore.

> sabirFeb. 11  07:22 am JST

Suicide is forbidden in Islam. I think Christianity is the same.

That's why I never thought of it as a solution!

But what was interesting to me was this verse from the Quran

"No one despairs of God's mercy except the disbelievers"

It means that one should not despair of God's mercy

This means all those millions of people who suffered hardship in their poverty, but continued and hardship gave way to ease

However, for a good and purposeful life, it should be accepted that we need truth, we need the divine religion, which really connects us to God,

Many suicides come from depression, which is a real illness. It's not a question of 'thinking it out', it's a genuine emotional/mental illness that doesn't get enough attention. It's time for the human race to realize that.

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I don’t know the system well here but the main reason for suicide is loneliness in a way that they don’t have someone to trust to talk to their issues. If there is an organisation, probably government, that can allow them to talk their issues, regardless of the content, with confidentiality to establish young people’s trust, it can help.

sometimes, just having someone to talk to anything without them feeling embarrassed, shy or feeling humiliation, can help them carry on their lives. If someone has real problems and actually need temporary support, which can also be involve financial support, or free accommodation can help. It’s very sad to see a young person ending his/her own life.

young people need to know time solves all the problems and heals all the pain. Everything is temporary and life changes by time,

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Life is a precious gift. Long live the young and the young at heart.

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