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Let the games begin.

2 ( +6 / -4 )

Here we go, AGAIN!

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Stupid question alert - so no hating please.

If the volunteers are going in and out of the Olympic village daily, catching trains home and then back to the village again daily……..how is it a bubble?

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If the volunteers are going in and out of the Olympic village daily, catching trains home and then back to the village again daily……..how is it a bubble?

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What a surprise.

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If the volunteers are going in and out of the Olympic village daily, catching trains home and then back to the village again daily……..how is it a bubble?

It is a bubble because the govt has said so and promised all of us that the games will be "safe" and "secure" - dont you dare to doubt what is told to you!!!!

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In before the "it's only one person out of x thousand....OK, it's only ten people out of X thousand...OK, it's only 256 people out of x thousand...." brigade.

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So it's a quasi-bubble? A bubble with some small holes in it, but still really is a bubble, honest gov!

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@tristis Here I am indeed:

Tested positive in the last week…

Japan : 140,000+

Paralympics (Japan residents): 72

Paralympics (non resident): 2

Seriously how is this even a headline. Surreal.

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If the volunteers are going in and out of the Olympic village daily, catching trains home and then back to the village again daily……..how is it a bubble?

Well well...well

What do we have here?

An independent thinker??

SILENCE!!!

Absorb the complacency and sit down sir..SIR!!!

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Seriously how is this even a headline. Surreal.

Cos Bach, Suga, and the entire IOC were braying nonstop for months about a "totally safe and secure" games where the athletes' village was supposedly an impregnable fortress.

Now they've had cases already and the games haven't even started yet.

I call that a broken promise. Heck, I call that intentional deceit.

You may define it otherwise.

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Hawaiibadboy and Jim (great responses)

Sorry for my thought process and I’ll make sure to switch my brain off from now on and just take everything the government does and says as gospel. How rude of me to, you know, actually think and use logic.

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@ Kev James

Stupid question alert - so no hating please.

If the volunteers are going in and out of the Olympic village daily, catching trains home and then back to the village again daily……..how is it a bubble?

The question had been asked on BS-TBS' 19:30報道 program to prof. Matsumoto Tetsuya (松本 哲哉) who is giving his insights about the pandemic and the government's response.

His profile:

https://www.iuhw.ac.jp/daigakuin/staff/cat24/4825.html

Here a copy-paste of what I commented on July 12th on a similar question back then.

(self)-quote:

Matsumoto's role in the program is mostly to debunk the nonsense that the invited LDP-stooges dish out. Fun stuff.

A few weeks ago the topic was the "Olympic village bubble".

[note: I posted this on July 12th, hence the program was most likely on around mid-to-end June.]

In a nutshell, there are 15,000 athletes and 63,000 persons accompanying them staying in the village. To which the program added 200,000 additional staff to run the village (cleaning staff, caretakers, etc, etc). Long story short: approx. 300,000 people are working / staying in the village, ALL of which enter and exit the bubble on a daily basis!

[note: These figures are Olympic-related, while the Paralympics are a lower-end event. As such, there will be less people involved than in the Olympics, not sure about the final figures though.]

Question to prof. Matsumoto: what do you think of the bubble?

Answer: this can not be considered a bubble, not with so many people going in and out. (ouch)

Question to prof. Matsumoto: do you think that the measures will be enough to prevent the virus spreading?

Answer: this will be "difficult" (難しい), which we all know is very polite Japanese to say "no way". (ouch)

(self)-unquote

So, the "bubble" is just to say the government did everything they could and appease the population while praying that the skies won't fall (any further), I guess...

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If the volunteers are going in and out of the Olympic village daily, catching trains home and then back to the village again daily……..how is it a bubble?

MTE. Also add the national team's officials/staff who are also free to roam the streets.

Saw some ladies in official national hoodies (quick google search proved it) the other week travelling down to Shonan.

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Considering what was and is going on outside the Olympics, they have been a fortress. Just this week, 64 dead and 135 more positive in a cluster in Okinawa, over 40,000 fans attending J-League matches, seems all more worthy of attention no?

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Just this week, 64 dead and 135 more positive in a cluster in Okinawa, over 40,000 fans attending J-League matches, seems all more worthy of attention no?

None of those things were the result of a spineless government bowing the knee to the IOC. They may well be the result of people not acting very smart, but it's a separate issue to this one.

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no surprise it was bound to happen.

let the games march on

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So bowing to Nissan, Hitachi, Panasonic, Fujitsu, Rakuten, TEPCO, etc. (all corporate owners of J-League clubs) to allow them having thousands of untested fans twice a week is not the same kind of issue, because it’s domestic?

The problem is that as usual this is a diversion, remember how many tests were done in Kabukicho when the borders were closed and we couldn’t blame it on the foreigners bringing in something we already have in hundreds of thousands?

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None of those things were the result of a spineless government bowing the knee to the IOC. They may well be the result of people not acting very smart, but it's a separate issue to this one

I hear ya

But it's the same folks.

10 dudes at a bar = BAD

Few thousand at a Soccer game = Nani??...Daijobu!!

IOC is pathetic but without a pathetic partner (Suga and CO.) it never happens.

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So bowing to Nissan, Hitachi, Panasonic, Fujitsu, Rakuten, TEPCO, etc. (all corporate owners of J-League clubs) to allow them having thousands of untested fans twice a week is not the same kind of issue, because it’s domestic?

Yes. It is different.

It doesn't make it any better than the cases in the olympic village. But it is different, because all the people you refer to had complete freedom to do what they did and go where they went. The olympic athletes were and are here at the invitation of the Japanese government (well, let's be honest: they're here because the IOC walked all over the LDP, but). Further, as we saw during the main games, a number of athletes openly violated their instructions to stay in the village and went out; two of them were stupid enough to wear their country's jackets while doing so.

I'm not defending packed football stadiums, packed beaches, and packed whatever else, but they should be seen as a separate issue to what we're talking about here.

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Really only one! I hope they don't hide the things like the Lambda case last time.

"NHK reports that the Ministry of Health failed to conduct an investigation into those in close contact with the first Lambda variant carrier in Japan and they also failed to inform the Tokyo Olympic Organizing Committee."

The Olympics may end up the super spreading event after all from the Lambda variant they have let into Japan.

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Really only one! I hope they don't hide the things like the Lambda case last time.

If the olympic fiascoes give way to a new variant, it deserves to deviate from the Greek alphabet and be christened the Baka variant.

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Many of these athletes have under lying conditions, and so, why are their lives been put at risk for a medal?

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Ashley ShibaToday  06:11 pm JST

Many of these athletes have under lying conditions, and so, why are their lives been put at risk for a medal?

because the athletes themselves chose to be here

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Many of these athletes have under lying conditions, and so, why are their lives been put at risk for a medal?

Money Ashely , money ! We all do stupid stuff for money

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louisferdinandcToday  05:34 pm JST

@tristis Here I am indeed:

Tested positive in the last week…

Japan : 140,000+

Paralympics (Japan residents): 72

Paralympics (non resident): 2

Seriously how is this even a headline. Surreal.

How many of those "72" / "2" unknowingly passed it on to many others using public transportation and/or unknowingly passed it on to friends/family before learning that they were positive? ...... who then passed it one to many others, and others and others?

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In a nutshell, there are 15,000 athletes and 63,000 persons accompanying them staying in the village. To which the program added 200,000 additional staff to run the village (cleaning staff, caretakers, etc, etc). Long story short: approx. 300,000 people are working / staying in the village, ALL of which enter and exit the bubble on a daily basis!

Added to that:

How many police drafted in for the Olympics have been infected? The Mainichi did report one cluster, in police drafted in from Hyogo.

How many of those people working and mixing in the village have been vaccinated? How many were/are regularly tested?

Then you have those who were/are too good for the village. There were all sorts of teams staying at hotels around Tokyo. What were the infection figures for those places?

How many infections have there been at training camps and friendly matches pre-bubble? We can assume there are no figures being kept, or at least if they have been kept, they have not been released.

We saw from the Olympics that once the games end, then the rules went out the window for many in the village, as any possible threats no longer had any teeth, (if they even had before), so they felt able to go out and about, following the great example of Emperor Barfch.

Also, how many hospital beds in Tokyo did sick or injured Olympians, hangers-on, staff, etc. etc. take up in the end, at a time when locals have been told to stay home untreated?

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Let's all go back 5 weeks and copy and paste every single article and comment about the olympics and repost them all here again. Same shtick, different month.

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This is just friggin NUTS!

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“How many of those "72" / "2" unknowingly passed it on to many others using public transportation and/or unknowingly passed it on to friends/family before learning that they were positive? ...... who then passed it one to many others, and others and others?”

There, is the problem. Those involved in the Olympics get tested, hence the 74 got to know they have the virus and now stay in isolation. It’s those outside who go around unknowingly! It’s not coming from the Olympics, it’s getting to the Olympics. Or someone seriously thinks that the hundreds of thousands of cases in Japan all originated in one, big, slimy foreign infected athlete blob?

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Given the rise in infection, the locals pose a major threat to the Paraolympians.

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The promise of I.O.C bach was no Corona virus problem from participants.

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when do the taxpayers who funded this garbage reap the benefits?

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louisferdinandcAug. 19  07:13 pm JST

There, is the problem. Those involved in the Olympics get tested, hence the 74 got to know they have the virus and now stay in isolation. It’s those outside who go around unknowingly! It’s not coming from the Olympics, it’s getting to the Olympics. Or someone seriously thinks that the hundreds of thousands of cases in Japan all originated in one, big, slimy foreign infected athlete blob?

One fact to mention;

Do you really think people are staying in isolation? Those staying in quarantine at/near airports are leaving the cellphones in their room and wandering around the airport/town

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