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Flame from Hiroshima A-bombed ruins to light monument in Pearl Harbor

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I have no idea what that convoluted symbolism is supposed to mean.

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I have no idea what that convoluted symbolism is supposed to mean.

It’s just a chance for Japan to play victim on the world stage again.

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Best thing you could have done is; not use Nuclear Weapons in the first place.

Second best thing could have done is; Ban Nuclear Weapons after 1946. You've seen the results and consequences, yet you wanted to built more. Now even poor North Korea has them. Only a matter of time before more countries get them and will be use them again.

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I have no idea what that convoluted symbolism is supposed to mean.

Maybe it's: "If you attack us, we are not going to take it lying down."

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I'm sure the bomb was only dropped to stop the war quickly so that the Russian's had no time to invade from the north. The US already had to deal with the Russian's in Germany.

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From Hiroshima to Hawaii...just joining the dirty dots of history!

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True the bombs weren't necessary. The Allies could have simply starved the Japanese people to death over the course of the winter and then rolled in to overwhelm the survivors. Or invaded and killed millions of civilians during the drive to conquer. /s

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Keeping an old flame alive to teach the children of how to make a fresh start by remembering the emperor who was worshipped as a god during the showa era where 30 million people perished in his name.

The sneak attack on pearl harbor was not necessary and neither was the atomic bombing or any atomic testing bombing .

Or the Hawaiian killing and consuming of captain cook or us servicemen in the chichijima incident.

Isnt history wonderful to remember.

How to split a flame in half ?

-11 ( +5 / -16 )

In Germany, it is mandatory for all students to attend a former concentration camp/holocaust museum and to learn what was wrong with Nazism thinking...

and what has govt of Japan done to ensure the next generation does not start another war again....

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Kyo wa heiwa: what strategy to end the war do you think would have been better than the atomic bombs? From my study of history, there were no good options. Only bad, worse, and catastrophic.

a/ continued firebombing of Japanese cities until the entire country was a smoking ruin.

b/ continued blockades until the civilian population starved to death in the winter of 1945-6

c/ amphibious invasion and the subsequent millions of deaths

At this time (summer 1945) the Japanese government had no plans at all to surrender. They were stockpiling military supplies to perform mass suicide attacks by land, sea, and air. It was a stragegy of planning a 'glorious' last stand to defend the Home Islands, even if it killed every Japanese.

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Attilathehungry

They were stockpiling military supplies

My mother-in-law was training to bash barbarians with her ‘military supplies’ ie a broom handle with which she was instructed to rush to the beach and fend off the invaders. She was 10 years old.

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JohansawadaToday 11:38 am JST

In Germany, it is mandatory for all students to attend a former concentration camp/holocaust museum and to learn what was wrong with Nazism thinking...

> and what has govt of Japan done to ensure the next generation does not start another war again...

They have played the victim and pretty much whitewashed their heinous role in what transpired while telling Koreans all their grief is in the past and they should move on. They are quite good at stuff like that, you know.

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@attila

Well if you have studied then you must know then that the Japanese imperial army had already lost the war before the atomic bombings happened.

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Chibakun

I'm sure the bomb was only dropped to stop the war quickly so that the Russian's had no time to invade from the north. The US already had to deal with the Russian's in Germany.

SOVJETS, not "Russians". Get your facts right. The Soviet Union included Ukraine, Belarus, etc etc, and Stalin himself was Georgian.

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Kyo wa heiwa dayo ne

Well if you have studied then you must know then that the Japanese imperial army had already lost the war before the atomic bombings happened.

You should travel back in time and tell them. They were hell-bent on keeping fighting, with an estimated death toll in the millions, if this reached the mainland. Apparently you more about them then they themselves.

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How Poetic, “An Eye for an Eye”

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Shouldn't it be the other way around? Japan started the war in the Pacific by sneak attacking Pearl Harbor, and the end result was the atomic bombings. How about they take flame from Pearl Harbor to Hiroshima and join it with the Hiroshima flame, and then finally extinguish both and light a separate candle or something.

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Again,more empathy required.

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@williB

Yes the imperial army was still fighting even tho they knew they couldn't win .

But they had already lost the war.

Goodness gracious wake up .

Dont you understand Japanese logic yet ?

The atomic bombing of Japan was not about winning the war !

It was about the surrender of Japan and the end of the imperial army and the end of the royal family's reign and the occupation of Japan .

There was proof of retaliation plans to use biological weapons against the USA and allies enven tho the emperor ordered to stop.

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In Germany, it is mandatory for all students to attend a former concentration camp/holocaust museum and to learn what was wrong with Nazism thinking...

and what has govt of Japan done to ensure the next generation does not start another war again....

The only war this generation can start is a Twitter beef, the men are all emasculated, If there was ever a ground invasion of a western country most of the men would be cowering behind their women, pathetic.

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@wiliB

There's a difference between losing a war and losing your military and being occupied by foreign forces that change your education and medical and political system.

Japan needed to be changed and that's why the atomic bombing happened and the surrender.

Iam not advocating the needless perishing of any innocent people by any military's.

And no i don't think war is necessary.

Thats my opinion.

wiliB if your such a pantomath then why is it necessary to be sinister and yet ambiguous about this topic ?

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Peace and prosperity are the two best gifts a nation can give to it's people,

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Sorry, but please keep your Hiroshima flame at home. The Pearl Harbor was a victim of a sneak at attack by Japan that opened up terrible and unnecessary war in the Pacific. The Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombs were dropped to end a war that Japan's fanatic military refused to end and only ended when Emperor Hirohito issued an edict of de facto surrender. Let the bombed people of Japan remember the tragedy of a bad decision that started the unnecessary Pacific War.

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