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Are these places going to offer actual vaccines? Because I don't believe it's the lack of will that prevents people getting vaccinated, but the inept government's botched distribution of vaccines.

15 ( +30 / -15 )

"We must not create a society where those who do not get vaccinated feel guilty or lose out."

Sorry Mr Yamada but for those without a valid medical reason not to get vaccinated, this is exactly the society we need!

7 ( +38 / -31 )

Another propaganda activity. Maybe first distribute the vaccines and allow people to have vaccine access. Shinjuku vaccinations are instantly filled (thanks to having so few slots available to begin with) with no availability until October despite being one of the hardest hit region.

The vaccination drives are nothing but for show, opening up a few hundred or fee thousand slots per months for cities and wards with populations of hundreds of thousands. Government clearly delaying the vaccine distribution to save the market for domestic vaccines which will be barely tested and likely ineffective.

10 ( +20 / -10 )

Let’s just copy the rest of the world to try and persuade people to get vaccinated, until the next variant proves immune to the jab.

-3 ( +22 / -25 )

This is much more reasonable than thr psychotic response that we see in the West such as countries like france where in fact the police walk around cafes and restaurants and literally check to see if you have a fascist vaccine pass.

-15 ( +25 / -40 )

Horrid idea. Unfair and poorly thought out.

-6 ( +26 / -32 )

Randy JohnsonToday  04:39 pm JST

This is much more reasonable than thr psychotic response that we see in the West such as countries like france where in fact the police walk around cafes and restaurants and literally check to see if you have a fascist vaccine pass.

You do not really know what is fascism, isn't it ?

== https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism

Please do not use such word just because you do not agree with a vaccine pass.

14 ( +34 / -20 )

Great idea, I will feel quite relaxed if all around me are vaccinated. No vaccine for no good reason then stay at home please.

-12 ( +20 / -32 )

In my opinion it is very wrong to shame people for not receiving a vaccine that has only gone through a limited testing period if their reasons are based on concerns about negative health effects. Most expats here are probably with a doctor that has limited health record information and knows nothing about their health history back at home, so how is it that these doctors are able to make a valid decision overriding your brain that is able to weigh dozens of years of events together in a matter of seconds? While doctors have a lot of knowledge about medicine, do they know the exact details and history about you? You should always have the right to decline a vaccine IMO.

3 ( +25 / -22 )

This should only be a thing once everyone who wants to be vaccinated has been vaccinated. This will be several months from now in the chronically slow Japan.

2 ( +9 / -7 )

"Vaccination is based on an individual's free will," 

Sure, but your will to expose yourself to infections should not affect my safety.

If you are fine hiding in your house and not interacting with anyone we have no problems with your free will, but if you are interacting with others then you need to obey the society's will.

-1 ( +20 / -21 )

Shouldn't this be the response once you actually offer vaccines to everyone? Discounts only for those lucky enough to have gotten a life-saving vaccine? Seems a bit rude not gonna lie.

But yeah if you have the chance to get it and you don't (barring a medical reason) then yeah, no discount for you.

0 ( +7 / -7 )

I'm going to get vaccinated because of the pressure I feel from my peers killing me with their nasty virus.

0 ( +11 / -11 )

I think it is good idea because people are always looking out for themselves. However, it will only work with better access to vaccinations for everyone.

The wait for a Japanese alternative is not a bright idea.

Mostly likely Japan's attempt to make the vaccine without the current side effects in a short period of time will probably mean a less effective vaccine like the ineffective vaccines produced in Russia and China.

5 ( +10 / -5 )

so while the unvaccinated in some countries are being told the vaccine is the only way to eliminate the virus, in other countries where the population is already mostly vaccinated, the citizens are being told that the vaccine doesn't work and a third shot is on the horizon.

are the unvaccinated supposed to just pretend that all the news from around the world showing the vaccine's ineffectiveness isn't available at the flick of a finger? 

there is no spinning this. forget about the science, from strictly a marketing perspective this is the most bungled product launch of all time.

-2 ( +16 / -18 )

I like the idea, even though I haven't even been able to book my first shot yet, let alone my second. But the anti-vaccination / troll movement we see everywhere, including here, has convinced me even more of the accuracy of 性悪説.

-1 ( +10 / -11 )

in other countries where the population is already mostly vaccinated, the citizens are being told that the vaccine doesn't work and a third shot is on the horizon.

Well, not exactly accurate. The vaccines DO work and ARE working but may need a booster is probably a better way to put it.

4 ( +16 / -12 )

still "feel unsafe" around the unvaccinated, still spread, still wear a mask, still pcr test, still quarantine, still need a booster, still infected, still hospitalized, still die. i guess it's no surprise that a 'vaccine' that is nothing like vaccines of the past 200 years also has none of the benefits like vaccines of the past 200 years.

-4 ( +15 / -19 )

In North America they are trying lotteries to get people to get vaccinated.

In Japan if they have the vaccine in stock and facilities they could vaccinated everyone in the country left in a week.

Just offer Disneyland or university studio tickets and what every anti vaxxers, every vaccine hesitant and lazy individual push their way to the front of the line

-1 ( +9 / -10 )

"Vaccination is based on an individual's free will,"

Did you use your free will to not get the polio, measles, rubella, herpes, whooping cough, vaccines, etc., etc.?

1 ( +18 / -17 )

An idea bare of any logic. Even more people will now wait until the discounts or lottery prizes become bigger and bigger if vaccinated. That makes any goals only unreachable.

-4 ( +5 / -9 )

The writing’s on the wall worldwide for the anti-vaxxers, and it says No Entry.

8 ( +18 / -10 )

Some people are afraid of the vaccine. But these same people are not afraid of eating and drinking unhealthy, breathing very bad air, using body products with endocrine disruptor or carcinogenic and so on.

I really do not understand this part of humankind.

7 ( +19 / -12 )

as part of efforts to jumpstart the economy following the pandemic.

in an effort not to go broke, I would've thought

4 ( +6 / -2 )

I used GoToTravel four times, so this is fantastic. We need a public database of places offering this excellent promotion besides the places in the article getting free advertisements or paid-for content.

-6 ( +10 / -16 )

@syzyguy if you don’t mind I will disagree with you. Never mind the science - never mind your comment !

-4 ( +5 / -9 )

Did the world get better anywhere with that “vaccine”? Lol? How naive people can be…

-10 ( +9 / -19 )

I used GoToTravel four times, so this is fantastic.

Yes, I remember you telling us about eating Pocky on the train.

5 ( +9 / -4 )

Pierre LeVenerableToday  05:46 pm JST

Did the world get better anywhere with that “vaccine”? Lol? How naive people can be…

Yes since all countries with new rising cases are reporting that 80% to 90% of severe cases are non vaccinated.

Meaning the vaccine is working and fewer people are getting sick even fewer getting severely sick.

3 ( +14 / -11 )

@Jimmi:

What is with the Pocky stuff?

We only eat on trains made for sightseeing and believe me the meals are not Pocky sticky sticks.

I do hope JR and other sightseeing coaches do this as well.

I am though against the United States giving monetary incentives to those not vaccinated. Could sort of make people lie, get a free booster shot and a monetary reward at the same time.

-8 ( +2 / -10 )

@Mr Kipling

I would be very interested if you or anyone knows how to get any kind of medical exemption. I do have an absolute good reason for not taking the vaccine offered to me (tizer version). However as much as I have tried to discuss this with a person who is qualified to understand my concerns so far I have been unsuccessful.

Essentially I had alergic reactions to two other vaccines one as a child and one as an adult. I expect there are many people who have concerns but can not find any real advice other than we have given it to a million people with not real problems so its a low risk.

Personally the chances the virus will cause me harm compared to the vaccine that may render me blind for the rest of my life is something I would very much like to discuss but that option is just not out there at the moment.

3 ( +6 / -3 )

All the my body my choice, blah blah blah...

Hilarious!

Hey try coming to my store with that attitude or idea.

No mask, no vaccine, try coming in with your shoes on, or not follow any of my rules.

You will find yourself out on in the street, refuse to you will be introduced to my local police officer that comes by on his daily rounds.

My business my rules, if a say all customers need to wear a blue shirt then as silly as a rule like that would be that would be my right!

As long as I don't have rules that discriminate based on ethnicity ( something one cannot change).

I have that right and you have the right not to do business with me.

-1 ( +12 / -13 )

Essentially I had alergic reactions to two other vaccines one as a child and one as an adult

Not a reason, that is why Vaccinations are given in a location with medical personnel,

My wife has more allergies than you can shake a stick at.

Reacts to every vaccine each year had a reaction to covid as expected but nothing really happened.

That is what EpiPen on site is for

-3 ( +9 / -12 )

The writing’s on the wall worldwide for the anti-vaxxers, and it says No Entry.

It looks as if proof of vaccination will soon be required for voting.

-11 ( +6 / -17 )

Great idea, I will feel quite relaxed if all around me are vaccinated.

Go ahead. That's the last place I want to be, surrounded by vaccinated asymptomatic spreaders.

-12 ( +7 / -19 )

This is great! Can't wait to take advantage of some of these deals and for more people to be vaccinated.

1 ( +8 / -7 )

Wonderful idea! Antivax will be kept off restaurants, soon cinemas and other public places. Hoo-rah

3 ( +10 / -7 )

I can go along with it as long as I get a good discount!

1 ( +5 / -4 )

@Antiquesaving

I don't know if you read my posts, but me and my Wife had our 2 shots already.

I was sick for one day, high fever, headache like hell.

But my wife was sick for 3 days. She couldn't stand up from her futon.

She also couldn't go to work.

And now, we hear that even if you are vaccined you can spread the virus in the same way with the same viral amount. That really dissapoints me, because, if that is true, the vaccine lost 50% of its sense.

I knew that I can get infected, and I knew I can spread it. But I thought in a much lower possibility than an unvaccinated person.

And we hear now, that we probably need a booster shot.

3rd time? How strong will the side effects are?

I will take my booster if necessary, but it will take a lot of work to convince my wife for the 3rd booster shot.

So sometimes, I really can understand the anti vaxxers stance.

0 ( +13 / -13 )

While the efforts may promote more people to get vaccinated, some warn such discounts could lead to peer pressure against people who are reluctant to receive the vaccine.

If individuals don't feel peer-pressure in getting vaccinated to prevent themselves or others from getting sick and dying, why in the world should I worry about them feeling peer-pressure to get a discount?

In a country where you constantly see discounts for those under 30, under 40 etc., this is nothing. At least you have a choice. You can't choose to get younger!

4 ( +7 / -3 )

very simple.

if i am vaccinated or not is my private matter and dont see any reason to share my private information with some restaurant manager.

if i have to be unfairly disadvantaged against other customers i have no reason to give my money to that business and will eat somewhere else.

as simple as is.

-1 ( +11 / -12 )

Well for those saying all the my body my choice.

It is his business.

Now the flip side of this type of story.

My long time dentist is down the rabbit hole anti covid vaccine.

She now refuses to treat not only those vaccinated but anyone that has a family member that is vaccinated living in the same home.

She stopped mid treatment of my wife's root canal when she found out my daughter was vaccinated.

Now she refuses to finish the job or treat any of our family anymore.

She has destroyed her practice and she will now be forced to close as she has lost well over 80% of her clients.

Now we have to find a dentist to complete my wife's root canals.

3 ( +12 / -9 )

Chief Cabinet Secretary Katsunobu Kat....." they will cause "unfair discrimination."

"Vaccination is based on an individual's free will," said Kenta Yamada, a professor of media law and journalism at Senshu University. "We must not create a society where those who do not get vaccinated feel guilty or lose out. We need to be careful not to encourage peer pressure through vaccine discount programs."

Well said.

-4 ( +6 / -10 )

My long time dentist is down the rabbit hole anti covid vaccine.

She now refuses to treat not only those vaccinated but anyone that has a family member that is vaccinated living in the same home.

Not good! Respect for people's personal medical decisions works both ways.

0 ( +7 / -7 )

@Antiquing: If the root canal was already done, then your wife just needs someone to replace the temporary filling with a permanent one and make sure no residual bacteria causing remains left. Easy.

My dentist did the same thing in Tsuruma. Called me up actually and told me if I get the vaccine, not to come back. I said see ya.

-6 ( +4 / -10 )

Not good! Respect for people's personal medical decisions works both ways.

Then how come you are perfectly fine with not respecting their medical decisions when you don't share their beliefs and think those decisions are risky for you? is like you had double standards depending if you share their beliefs or not.

Well, let's see how this kind of thinking worked elsewhere. For example, Israel used to be 'the model country' for the rest of the world, most people vaccinated, vaccine passes enforced everywhere... and just got put under the strongest level covid warning by the CDC

And yet have you seen their death rates? when social distancing measures are abandoned and delta strike it is inevitable to get infections, but vaccination helps tremendously to limit the damage from the infection.

Go ahead. That's the last place I want to be, surrounded by vaccinated asymptomatic spreaders.

Good to see you have a much more realistic attitude towards the infection, not like the members of the antiscience cult that keep repeating that COVID means absolutely no risk.

so while the unvaccinated in some countries are being told the vaccine is the only way to eliminate the virus, in other countries where the population is already mostly vaccinated, the citizens are being told that the vaccine doesn't work and a third shot is on the horizon.

Then again you could save yourself the problem of listening to anybody on the internet and instead do that only with the expert, instead of your confused strawman fake arguments you would get much more realistic and adequate recommendations.

-3 ( +9 / -12 )

As long as I don't have rules that discriminate based on ethnicity ( something one cannot change).

People can not change the fact that they are susceptible to a life threatening allergic reaction from the chemical agents in the vaccines.

But to be fair, this program is nothing new.

At the supermarket, a fresh off the farm organic apple is about 300 yen.

Canned apples, which are full of preservatives and other unnatural chemicals are about 200 yen.

The people who want to avoid chemicals in their body have to pay extra.

So be it.

-4 ( +9 / -13 )

Good. This is better than not accepting unvaccinated people.

Would definitely do this if I operate a business where many people congregate

1 ( +6 / -5 )

Nator....

Good question. The person at the vaccine center asking you questions about your general health and if you have any allergies etc has to be a medical doctor. So he may well be able to answer your concerns. Obviously in Japanese. Other languages could be a problem.

0 ( +2 / -2 )

7 You survive 99.7 you survive 99.7 you survive
0 ( +5 / -5 )

She's protecting her practice from liability as she doesn't want vaccine side effects to be blamed on root canal side effects.

What you describe is precisely the kind of fantasy based, irrational decisions that characterize the antivaxxer style of thinking. Not to mention a deep ignorance of medical science, making the explanation impossible to believe to anybody that actually understand medical liabilities.

-2 ( +8 / -10 )

If you're so sure the vaccine works (hint: it doesn't) then you have nothing to fear from the unvaccinated if you are vaccinated. Unvaccinated doesn't mean you're carrying the virus, so why act like you think you know better just because you're stupid enough to fill your arm with an untested concoction of crap? Get over yourselves!

-5 ( +9 / -14 )

What scamming marketing scheme. Won’t buy into it myself. Just cause your vaxxed doesn’t = immunity

-6 ( +6 / -12 )

"Vaccination is based on an individual's free will," said Kenta Yamada, a professor of media law and journalism at Senshu University. "We must not create a society where those who do not get vaccinated feel guilty or lose out. We need to be careful not to encourage peer pressure through vaccine discount programs." Nobody but a Japanese university prof could come up with such an opinion.

0 ( +9 / -9 )

Basically, its a form of discrimination. Should be punishable by law.

-9 ( +7 / -16 )

BaradzedToday  08:52 pm JST

Basically, its a form of discrimination. Should be punishable by law

So by that view the fact I don't let anyone in my store wearing shoes is also a form of discrimination.

-1 ( +8 / -9 )

LovecraftingToday  08:33 pm JST

Thanks I realised it to late.

Corrected it just before

1 ( +4 / -3 )

So by that view the fact I don't let anyone in my store wearing shoes is also a form of discrimination.

It is actually a form of discrimination when implemented now, because the majority of working-age population in Japan have no access to vaccines until at least October, if not next year. Shoes you can buy if you want, but vaccines, even if you have money, you need good connections to obtain access.

Only the elderly and those working in top tier companies with connections to the government was able to obtain access, so it is definitely discriminating against the common folks.

-4 ( +4 / -8 )

In most countries, this would cause a huge flood of fake vaccine documents.

-3 ( +4 / -7 )

A failed campaign until the pointless bans on alcohol end.

0 ( +0 / -0 )

Such a failure. Albeit it is not as draconian as the western societies, this kind of resort only creates a society where people turn against each other and further polarizes the nation and its citizens. They obviously haven't done their fact check themselves. Your vaccination status doesn't matter! It's proven and it's all over the internet that even vaccinated people can still transmit the virus. It's been said loud and clear by dubious health officials as well. Wake up and stop going with the flow or the "new trend" simpletons...

That being all said, though, I believe those businesses must have been hit harder compared to others, hence the controversial discounts. But what they're completely missed is that Japan is one of the only countries that have never imposed lockdowns as they're illegal. Given this fact, vaccination will never be mandatory and even the website of the ministry of health clearly stipulates: "vaccination is each individual's freedom. Do you own fact check and decide if you want to be inoculated or not". It also stresses that: "for those who are unvaccinated that are facing harassment or peer pressure, report to the authorized organization". The same right and freedom go with wearing a mask. I wonder if those business owners even know about anything at all? REPULSION.

-3 ( +0 / -3 )

I do not need a discount. But I sure like eating at a place where everyone allowed to enter are vaccinated people. My chances of getting sick is almost zero. In this pandemic we have to think of others' health conditions and not only about me.

0 ( +0 / -0 )

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