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TEPCO says equipment to release treated wastewater into sea is complete

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By MARI YAMAGUCHI

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Yeah. Whatever you want...

So, back to the important bit of the message.

We have virtualy endless storage for radioactive water.

That nullifies any possible reason to release the waste to the ocean.

Any comment on that?

-2 ( +0 / -2 )

They are a form of column packing

Just what I said. A cheap option for almost endless water storage.

It lets some heavy radioactive elements decay.

And it nullifies the need to throw waste to our oceans.

-1 ( +0 / -1 )

prolonging storage just kicks the can down the road

We have no technology just now to recover the melted fuel rods, or to clean the radioactive waste.

Keep your waste until we find a viable option.

"Heavy radioactive elements" do not decay within decades.

The Cesium 134/137, Cobalt 60, Ruthenium 106, Antimony 125, Strontium 90, Iodine 129, Technetium 99, Carbon 14, etc., will decay within decades.

Please look up what dixon rings are

They are a cheap option to contain radioactive water.

It gives us an almost infinite storage for the water.

It nullifies the need to release waste on the ocean.

-1 ( +0 / -1 )

You don't seem to understand that long-term storage is just not an option. 

Yes, it is an option.

At least for some decades, until the heavy radioactive elements decay.

It's pretty simple to make new containers with Dixon rings on them.

Why wouldn't you?

That is fundamentally wrong.

I see no wrong.

When your body ingest Tritium, it stays until you expel it. Can be hours or days depending on your metabolism.

-2 ( +0 / -2 )

Koreans who don't know how ocean currents move

Do you have any evidence that Koreans are incapable of understand how ocean currents work?

I worry about the tank breaking is because it is contaminated water before treatment

Easy! Treat the water and put it back to the tank.

tritium does not accumulate in the human body

Is a little more complex than that. Radiation stays in the body for some time, that accumulates damage overtime, every time.

If you think it's scientifically wrong, you need to prove the IAEA data wrong.

Nobody arges that.

What Koreans want is the usual apology and more compensation.

Do they?! You think it's only about Korea?! You'll be amazed how many countries are against the release.

-3 ( +0 / -3 )

The only people who are making a fuss over this issue are Koreans who don't know how ocean currents move, so there is no particular problem.

According to the news reports, salt is being hoarded in South Korea.

I think the reason why I worry about the tank breaking is because it is contaminated water before treatment. This is because it would be a problem if it overflows due to an accident before it is processed and discharged into the sea.

As I said before, tritium does not accumulate in the human body in the first place. It is included in the drinking water you are drinking now and rainwater.

Some people go on and on about filters and stupid things, but I don't need them.

As long as there is data from an international organization called the IAEA, the credibility of data issued by Japan and TEPCO is not a problem.

If you think it's scientifically wrong, you need to prove the IAEA data wrong.

What Koreans want is the usual apology and more compensation.

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Not our problem.

The stupid guy that decided the backup power generators should be at ground level should carry the 400,000 by hand.

-3 ( +0 / -3 )

But not in a capacity to filter 400,000 liters a day.

Correct me ifI'm wrong. But if you had 400,000 filters, Could you filter 400,000 liters/ day ?

This "capacity" excuse is so weak, it falls flat.

-3 ( +0 / -3 )

Someone who is bound by concepts like "viability", "feasibility", or "reality".

You thing that Tritium filters are not feasible.

Then why industrial filters are a reality?

You escalate. That's what you do.

TEPCO made a big mess, now it needs a big cleaning. Not just swept under the rug.

-2 ( +0 / -2 )

Believe me when I tell you...

Not the best way to convince people.

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they don't work at the scale necessary for Fukushima's volume of waste water, at around 400 m³/day.

If 1 filter is not enough, buy 10, or 100, or 1000... who cares.

And if they need power to run, TEPCO makes power for living, they won't be out of power.

I am embracing the least ugly solution to an ugly problem.

Some better solutions on the table are to keep the contaminated water in containers with Dixon rings for some decades, get better ALPS filters, Tritium filters, etc.

Are you really contemplating all the solutions, or just the ones that TEPCO says.

Believe me when I tell you that TEPCO is not looking out for our best interest.

-3 ( +0 / -3 )

It's fine with me.

I can name you a bunch of companies offering Tritium Filter solutions that you can contact to explain them how "useless" their filters are.

They might close the business altogether as they are incapable of filter Tritium, according to you.

But, really, Why are you trying that hard to embrace TEPCO?

-4 ( +0 / -4 )

TEPCO, listen!!

There are industrial Tritium filters all around the world, all of them would be happy to share their knowledge.

One more thing!

There are better ALPS filters than the ones you're using, most of the heavy radioactive elements can be filtered out.

TEPCO, do your homework, please!!

Stop cheating, and work.

-5 ( +1 / -6 )

Or perhaps you aren't aware of what evaporation means or unable to read very well.

Are you saying you'd prefer tritium in the air rather than in the sea?

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The water in the temporary tanks is not safe. The tanks are rusting and some of them have actually shifted position.

So, the water will be filtered again, and then, as it is piped towards the ocean, sea water will be added to the flow, so by the time the mixture blends with seawater offshore it should be pretty much the same as any outflow from nuclear reactors around the globe.

If there’s a better way to deal with the problem, like evaporation pools in parallel, and/or a longer undersea discharge tunnel, then that sounds good to me too.

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This has all been arranged in advance. Those tic-tac shaped unidentified objects captured on US fighter aircraft radar and targeting video that can dive under water will refill their tanks with the perfect mix they use. The French company agreed to make the filtration to their specification.

That's why it's being pumped 1 km offshore. The International UFO Lab opened exactly one year ago in Fukushima in preparation.

link: https://www.insider.com/ufo-lab-opened-in-fukushima-study-the-countrys-odd-sightings-2021-6

Just Google UFO over Fukushima and you'll find page after page of information. The truth is out there.

-2 ( +3 / -5 )

My guess is that they have been secretly releasing water anyway,........because there is no way that they could have stored all that water for 12 years !

-4 ( +4 / -8 )

Has Japan lost the will to think laterally? Replacing the nuclear power station with CSP Solar Power Station would allow the water to be used in a sealed loop for the steam turbines that produce electricity 24 x 7 Also using a molten salt battery that could also use up some of the water.

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@Alongfortheride

Once again a bunch of negative comments above but not 1 solution! They can NOT continue to keep storing water in tanks and keep it! I can only imagine your complaints if they have 1000 acres of full tanks and there is another major earthquake and they all burst!. So if you are going to complain about this being a bad idea to release the water also add a better solution as they simply can not keep collecting and holding the water.

Evaporation... https://www.meti.go.jp/earthquake/nuclear/pdf/140326/140326_01e.pdf

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Again. Solutions.

Stop being unserious. What makes you think you can get something for free? Huge problem right? Stop thinkin like a Looter and be serious!

1 ( +3 / -2 )

go sue everyone who took a cut get a real judge and throw away the key.

Then you start looking for real scientists and payin experts that arent cousins friends wives step dads uncles, to come up with the so called "solutions"

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Alongfortheride

No kiddin. As they say the shoe fits...

Once again a bunch of negative comments above but not 1 solution! They can NOT continue to keep storing water in tanks and keep it! I can only imagine your complaints if they have 1000 acres of full tanks and there is another major earthquake and they all burst!. So if you are going to complain about this being a bad idea to release the water also add a better solution

Hey dont get emotional. Im gonna complain all I want. Heres a solution, stop playing the victim, wi stingy and corner cutting and pay

You can cry about it all you want. Freedom of speech. Just cause you wanna rubber hankoe some Looters and the joke of a plan doesnt mean the rest of us gotta play along.

-1 ( +4 / -5 )

Is crossing your fingers good enough?!

Hoping it's safe.

4 ( +5 / -1 )

Once again a bunch of negative comments above but not 1 solution! They can NOT continue to keep storing water in tanks and keep it! I can only imagine your complaints if they have 1000 acres of full tanks and there is another major earthquake and they all burst!. So if you are going to complain about this being a bad idea to release the water also add a better solution as they simply can not keep collecting and holding the water.

No one likes the idea of this water going into the ocean but the fact is it is the best solution to a long term bigger problem.

-4 ( +4 / -8 )

Others say the release plan is safe but call for more transparency, including allowing outside scientists to join in sampling and monitoring the release.

This should be mandatory based on Telco's abysmal safety record. Who's to say the just won't release higher concentrations once the spotlight is off??!!

-4 ( +9 / -13 )

On the face of it, Japan is such a clean country but there are pockets of dire environmental pollution all over Japan, never adequately disposed of, making people sick…

-3 ( +10 / -13 )

It's not emotional reaction. It's just common sense mixed with real science. Not the fake numbers spewed by the government and TEPCO.

-8 ( +8 / -16 )

And guess how far offshore this release takes place….

1 kilometer- pure genius, no expense spared, thanks Tepco!

-4 ( +10 / -14 )

If you've been here long enough, you will know that Tepco is going to release the water regardless of what happens. It's a matter of "when" and not "if". All of this public posturing appearing to take into consideration opposing views, etc. is all smoke and mirrors. They'll do it anyway because there really is no alternative (other than a slow underground leak into the ocean which is probably happening right now anyway), so they figure they might as well do it openly.

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about a thousand tanks at the plant must be removed to prevent any accidental leak

This statement is concerning. If this water is safe to release into the environment why are they worried about an accidental leak? There is definitely a lot more going on than what us being released to the public. Let’s face it, it wouldn’t be the first time Japan attempted to cover up an environmental disaster.

-5 ( +17 / -22 )

I was going to say I was waiting for the emotional and scientifically inaccurate protests, but there is one already, still I am sure there will be lots more. These complaints have been repeatedly and comprehensively demolished but it makes no difference as it is based on an emotional reaction rather than a rational, fact based objection.

4 ( +18 / -14 )

This is madness.

Another Minamata, another COVID Olimpigs, another reject gaijins into the country for 2 years,....

There's always a scientific rhetoric to justify the madness.

-12 ( +14 / -26 )

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