Gov't to pitch safety of Fukushima water release to S Korean experts

Dang man, you can't even convince your own people. One way Nishimura can convince them is to dump it in Tokyo Bay and have the residents accept it.

Can you imagine the scenario.

" Would you like to drink some decontaminated water?"

Sounds so tempting

I'll bet those "experts" get heavily wined and dined before the pitch.

The Japanese government hopes to pitch the safety of a planned release of treated radioactive water into the sea

But Nishimura noted that the purpose of the inspection is "not to evaluate or certify the safety of treated water."

What the ?

So the water is being touted as safe but an inspection to evaluate or certify it's safety isn't to certify it's safety.

Doesn't sound very convincing.

Japan has accepted inspections by officials of foreign delegates before, such as from the United States, Taiwan, and Pacific island nations, according to Nishimura.

I read recently numerous times the Pacific islands nations were opposed to the release of the water into the ocean.

buchailldanaToday  07:01 am JST

Can you imagine the scenario.

" Would you like to drink some decontaminated water?"

I can imagine the surprise on your face when you learn that the final release will have less tritium concentration than your current water does.

Nuclear power plants worldwide routinely release treated water containing low-level concentrations of tritium and other radionuclides into the environment as part of normal operations, according to the U.N. nuclear watchdog.

This doesn't prove that it is a safe procedure not harmful to the environment and human health...i.e. decades later we now know that PFAS (forever chemicals) are quite harmful, and they've already permeated practically all known corners of the Earth.

Nuclear power plants don't usually have more than 1 million tons of water in storage. This will go on for more than 40 years keeping the melted fuel cooled.

With Japan and Korea now "best bros" I think a less conflicted second opinion might be in order

What does South Korean public want??

No release of any water! doesn't matter what scientific evidence Japan has!

South Korean public, has the expectation that the Korean experts sent to Japan, will give a 100% No! To any water release!

South Korean public sees the water release at Fukushima as a bigger battle against Japan, beyond any concerned with radiation.

This is a win for Korea if the Fukushima disaster becomes a headache for Japan for another 100 years, another way for Korea to complain and cry how Japan is a terrible country.

Anything that makes Japan's day worse, South Korea, and North Korea would be equally happy and excited at Japan's misfortune.

Reason,maybe the island of misfit reactors get their act together,maybe they would not be in this position

Gov't to pitch safety of Fukushima water release to S Korean experts

hard pitch

I do not care how they slice and dice and fudge the numbers, this is not safe at all. Just because you say something to be true. Just because you print something to be true, does not change the minds of intelligent people.

No dice Japan.

Intelligent people will never agree with dumping nuclear waste into the Pacific Ocean, no matter how much you sugar coat it.

If the water is so safe, why release it into the ocean?

They need to 'Pitch ' to the whole world, because the sea belongs to us all.

Intelligent people will never agree with dumping nuclear waste into the Pacific Ocean

Fair enough. What would those intelligent people suggest we do instead?

Just because you print something to be true, does not change the minds of intelligent people.

No dice Japan.

The science says otherwise.

Scientists OK plan to release one million tonnes of waste water from Fukushima

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01225-2

Intelligent people will never agree with dumping nuclear waste into the Pacific Ocean, no matter how much you sugar coat it.

Scientists OK plan to release one million tonnes of waste water from Fukushima.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01225-2

I think Scientists are intelligent people. How about you?

If the water is so safe, why release it into the ocean?

Because it is safe and there is no other place to put it and South Korea and China does the same thing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ocean_disposal_of_radioactive_waste#:~:text=SU%3A%20Soviet%20Union.-,Pacific%20Ocean,nor%20volume%20of%2056%2C261%20containers.

Gov't to pitch safety of Fukushima water release to S Korean experts

The decision has already been made to dump the water. it is just so South Korea can save face. The international community has sided with Japan on the issue.

More accurately the IAEA has signed off on it, but they have a vested interest in doing so.

SPU,the international community do not absorb Japanese from legal liability,this contamination is found in fishes in California

All Lies!

Of course the water is not safe and the Government is just gaslighting the whole situation. Why not just release it on the land where those town that are still off limits and unlivable. Can not use that soil anyway.

I still don’t knowingly eat anything from Tohoku farms but all restaurants are using them as it is very cheap for them to buy.

Have they considered building a large offshore evaporator maybe a ship they maybe able to recover the chemical that way.

Less harmful does not mean harmless.

Japanese politicians and diplomats have been buddying up with South Korean officials. I wonder if this is the real reason.

@SPIJ

Just because you print something to be true, does not change the minds of intelligent people.

*No dice *Japan.

The science says otherwise.

Scientists OK plan to release one million tonnes of waste water from Fukushima

Who paid the Scientist for their research?

@Roy

Intelligent people will never agree with dumping nuclear waste into the Pacific Ocean

Fair enough. What would those intelligent people suggest we do instead?

Japan had how many years to come up with a viable solution? It's not up to anyone but the Japanese government to handle this situation, not the citizens. We do not get paid big buck for that. They all do.

13 years is a very short time for this nuclear disaster which will last many decades. TEPCO first had to clean the debris up and lay thick steel plates around the plant to reduce the high radiation levels.

Removal of spent fuel from reactor 4, and reactor 3. Much of the work was done with remote control equipment because the radiation near the reactors is too high.

Priority was cooling the melted fuel which has created more than 1 million tons of waste water.

An independent organisation should be employed to give its best solutions.

@ReasonandWisdomNipponToday

What does South Korean public want??

Korean public wants Japan to adapt Korea's nuclear-powered evaporation technology, which Korea offered to provide to Japan but Japan refused.

This is a modified version of Korea's small nuclear desalination plant currently under development for Saudi Arabia, which can evaporate Fukushima's radioactive water to collect radioactive materials residue to be disposed of.

While this may sound strange to the Japanese, Korea is decades ahead of Japan in various form of nuclear technology, including a Supercritical CO2 nuclear reactor for its nuclear submarine that enables 10% enriched uranium fuel to last 20+ years by running much cooler than traditional nuclear reactors, nuclear fusion reactor where Korea is the only country on earth able to sustain hydrogen ion plasma at fusion temperature(100 million K) for more than 1 second(Korea currently sustained 30 seconds last year and plans to hit 300 seconds in 2 years).

Good luck!

Why not just release it on the land

That'd be rather stupid because then it would seep into the fresh water supply, undiluted. After it happened in 2011 that is exactly what we don't want to happen again.

Have they considered building a large offshore evaporator

Then the radioactive water would evaporate, become radioactive steam, come down as radioactive rain, and then still mix with the water in the ocean. It would achieve the exact same thing as a direct release into the ocean, just much more complicated and less controlled.

Japan had how many years to come up with a viable solution?

There is no other viable solution, that was a rhetorical question ... as is yours.

This is a modified version of Korea's small nuclear desalination plant which can evaporate Fukushima's radioactive water to collect radioactive materials residue to be disposed of.

That's already dealt with, though. Before release, those radioactive materials in question will already have been removed from the Fukushima waste water using the ALPS process.

What remains is tritium, which can not be removed by evaporation. The tritium will be dealt with using ... dilution in the ocean.

As for the rest of your comment, sure, maybe South Korea is ahead of Japan. But I fail to see what nuclear submarines and fusion reactors, impressive as they might be, have to do with or can contribute to the waste water problem.

@Roy Sophveason

That's already dealt with, though. Before release, those radioactive materials in question will already have been removed from the Fukushima waste water using the ALPS process.

ALPS doesn't work as advertised and processed water still contains plutonium, cesium, etc.

This is why Japan's neighbors are dead opposed against Japan releasing Fukushima water, because the only way to get rid of heavy radioactive material is through evaporation.

Scientifically impossible to lie about the dangerous effects of these radionuclides so it means it’s politics

Is it bad to pee on the pool, Japan?

I made my point clear so long ago.

Today the J-Gov is just reinforcing my argument:

the purpose of the inspection is "not to evaluate or certify the safety of treated water."

I would be very surprised if AIEA accept this conditions.

Today the J-Gov is just reinforcing my argument:

No. Once again, you're trying to contort anything you read into supporting your preconception that "TEPCO is hiding something".

the purpose of the inspection is "not to evaluate or certify the safety of treated water."

Correct. The South Korean experts have been invited to receive a tour of the facilities. That's it. That's what the article says. Note that it doesn't say that other experts are not allowed to evaluate or certify the safety of treated water.

I would be very surprised if AIEA accept this conditions.

This is completely independent of the IAEA's oversight and corraboration mission.

Seriously, for all the reading between the lines you have to, once in a while, actually read the lines themselves.

TEPCO's intentions are driven in good faith and purity.

We can totally trust they'll do the best for us, above any economical or political interest.

If the water is so safe, why not can it and drink like soda?

Will the mandatory brown envelopes contain Japanese Yen or Korean Won?

TEPCO's intentions are driven in good faith and purity.

Oh no, they most certainly aren't, and I emphatically reject the allegation that I am arguing to that end. I probably do not trust them any more than you do, but unlike you I do not outright dismiss anything they say as a lie and assume the opposite.

Since they pooched the screw in 2011, with all things Fukushima they are under massive public, national and international pressure. They really have choice but to cooperate and provide some baseline of transparency. As this article covers, they even provide insight to parties they really don't have to, and one can legitimately assume that they are not doing it out of their own volition.

Do they like it? Probably not. Do I care whether they like it? Make a guess.

If the water is so safe, why not can it and drink like soda?

Because that is done with other waste water?

@roy Sophveason

It’s obvious you’ve have actually been paying attention.

This isn’t anything new for Nuclear Power generation and similar Nuclear industries. It’s just the massive scale of the discharges and the scrutiny. Plenty of nuclear plants discharge radwaste water after treatment.

I believe the water is safe so it should not be wasted and dumped into the sea by the Japanese government.

Instead it should be added to the water supply system and to the water reservoir so that the Japanese people will be able to utilize it for drinking, cooking and watering the farms.

I am eager to drink a highball of Suntory Whisky Toki with the Fukushima water.

Koreans cannot even acknowledge scientific facts that are unacceptable to Koreans no matter how long they last. That is why they are a miserable people who still cannot win a single Nobel Prize.

Some Japanese seem very forgetful.

Japan Suspends Import of French Mushrooms

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1989-10-26-mn-945-story.html

@Bobby

Koreans cannot even acknowledge scientific facts that are unacceptable to Koreans no matter how long they last. That is why they are a miserable people who still cannot win a single Nobel Prize.

You seem to believe Japanese are better than Koreans, but the fact is as follows:

Japan demanded a permanent halt to the dumping, but Moscow said it has nowhere to store the waste, mostly low-radiation cleansing fluid and coolant from a ship-repair facility near Vladivostok for its aging fleet of nuclear-powered submarines.

A Japanese government study last year found that Russia’s previous ocean dumping had had no effect on Japan or the surrounding marine environment.

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1993-10-19-mn-47464-story.html

it should be added to the water supply system and to the water reservoir so that the Japanese people will be able to utilize it for drinking, cooking

Again, because that's what we do with other waste water? Get real for a moment.

Noone would argue that the water in your local sento is "unsafe". Noone would argue that the water you just washed your hands in, going down the drain, is "unsafe". Noone would argue that the water from the toilet you just flushed is "unsafe". So would you drink that water? You people are setting impossible standards.