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ANA plane taxiing for departure clips Delta aircraft at Chicago airport

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Another accident that involved Japanese airlines company?

-17 ( +9 / -26 )

So a plane clips wings with another plane and they need to investigate if it's a manufacturing fault? What a silly conclusion

12 ( +22 / -10 )

What on earth would this have to do with a manufacturing fault? I wouldn't be surprised if it's another pilot misunderstanding English, but a fault? no.

-2 ( +15 / -17 )

Are Japanese pilots getting their eyes examined? Tokyo couldn’t see the other plane. Chicago can’t see to the instructions of ground crew. USA license and registration please. Clearly reckless driving. You would think they would arrest pilots for such things.

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What on God’s green earth would a manufacturing defect have to do with a pilot misjudging distances while taxiing? This is a common occurrence (like 50 times a year around the world) and usually results in minor if any damage.  And the ridiculous insinuation that somehow all Japanese pilots are undertrained is offensive. ANA is a different airline than JAL, and no one with an ounce of sense would see a connection.

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What on earth would this have to do with a manufacturing fault?

Do planes these days have any kind of collision detection devices? My car beeps if I come near any kind of object. I can imagine collision detection devices on wing tips could be useful, especially as visibility for pilots is not very good. If so, perhaps it wasn't working or was installed badly.

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It was not immediately clear what caused the incident on Sunday and whether it was related to a manufacturing flaw.

How?!! Did they make one wing longer by mistake? :)

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It was not immediately clear what caused the incident on Sunday and whether it was related to a manufacturing flaw.

What a load of nonsense. No it’s pretty clear that it’s not related to a manufacturing flaw whatsoever. And it’s pretty clear instead that the commending crew of the hitting plane was not top notch.

2 ( +6 / -4 )

Two planes bump and there's mention of a manufacturing flaw? Who's running the show over there at the Associated Press? Some companies will hire anyone these days.

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Normally there are 2 “wingmen”, one on each wing, that watch out for just this kind of thing during pushback as it is very hard for the pilots to observe the separation from the cockpit.

One wonders what was going on.

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The sky is falling, NOT the GROUND IS FALLING and we are hearing about many aircraft "GROUND INCIDENTS" which tells you there is a problem with COMMUNICATION Pilot to control tower or vice versa. Again where is the situational awareness?

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But how can you pass judgment it was Japanese airlines fault ?

The Captain of the aircraft that hit the other aircraft is at fault. Period. I will admit that I almost immediately assumed a few things: The Japanese pilot's English is difficult to understand and he/she has difficulty understanding the ground control team The Japanese pilot really wanted to be in the air, away from too much English ASAP.

For those that don't know, the B717 has the engines near the tail. It is the old MD-80 style plane for regional hopes. The B777 is probably huge in comparison. Some models of B777-8/9 ER/LR are both longer and have greater wingspan than the B747-8.

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This is not an unusual event. The number of incidents at Chicago's International airport, while not common, is frequent enough so that it is rarely news worthy. Pilots are human, plane are big, and sometimes traffic control is imprecise (those folks are human, too). Better this than a fiery crash. Sometimes there is such little damage that both planes could take off as is, though of course they don't until checked for flyability.

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ANA plane was taxiing for departure on taxiway and Delta plane was still parking at the gate. The 2 airplanes were cripped a little bit on the same taxiway. I wonder why air-traffic controller gave ANA plane the permission of taxiing to runway when Delta plane did not completely park yet? Air traffic controller should have stopped the ANA plane taxiing if Delta plane was still on the taxiway.

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misspelling: cripped should be clipped.

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...... And another factor could be the windy -4 F weather. Those guys standing out there directing the plane, watching the wingtips, must have been extremely cold. ........... A pilot has a very poor angle to the back to see the wingtips. On this plane may not be able to see them.

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That's a lot of aviation incidents involving Japanese airlines, albeit the one in Sapporo involved a Korean airline and Chinese airline as well.

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While it is probably safe to assume the mishap was due to pilot error compounded by appalling weather, mishap investigators are going to want to confirm there were no defects in the operation of the nose wheel steering, brakes and anti-skid system on the brakes.

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ANA plane was taxiing for departure on taxiway and Delta plane was still parking at the gate. The 2 airplanes were cripped a little bit on the same taxiway. I wonder why air-traffic controller gave ANA plane the permission of taxiing to runway when Delta plane did not completely park yet? Air traffic controller should have stopped the ANA plane taxiing if Delta plane was still on the taxiway.

Go look at a satellite view of Chicago O'Hare Airport. The airport's terminal guide says Delta uses Terminal 5 while ANA uses Terminal 1. Those terminals are as far apart as the terminals get at O'Hare, but it the ANA plane was taxiing to use any of the three southernmost parallel runways and the wind was out of the west it would have to taxi right past Terminal 5 to get to the active runway. Alternatively if the ANA plane had just landed from the west (depends on the wind) it would leave the active runway somewhere near Terminal 5 and have to taxi past that terminal to get to the ANA gates at Terminal 1. It would require a couple of minutes of taxiing to get from Terminal 1 to the area around Terminal 5. Considering the amount of traffic in that airport there are going to be dozens of aircraft moving on taxiways and in terminal areas at any given time. It is ultimately up to pilots to see and avoid. Ground control cannot see everything and especially so in blowing snow.

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