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Hokkaido man in his 80s gets four doses of COVID-19 vaccine

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By SoraNews24

Although it took a while, Japan’s vaccination program has gained a bit of momentum over the past month and is now slightly above the global rate. However, there are still many awaiting their shots as it largely remains limited to people over 65.

This is because early on the government decided to prioritize vaccinations beginning with health care workers, followed by senior citizens, and then all adults. It’s a somewhat controversial system and, as we will soon see, is not without its flaws.

On July 8, Teshikaga town in Hokkaido announced that one of its residents, a man in his 80s, had secretly gotten two additional doses of the COVID-19 vaccine for a total of four jabs between the months of April and July.

The person in question has a job that involves him frequently traveling to a hospital outside of Teshikaga. This work appeared to have made him eligible for the first wave of health care worker vaccinations and he got two shots at the hospital in April and May.

In June, he also received vouchers from the town of Teshikaga and a notification that he was eligible for the second wave of senior citizen vaccinations. “I thought the more times I got it, the more effective it would be,” the man reportedly said, explaining afterward why he had decided to go back for even more COVID-19 shots.

However, on July 6, Teshikaga received a bill from the hospital that had vaccinated the man the first time around. Aided by the fact that the town’s population is only about 7,600, the oversight was quickly noticed and made public. The man’s physical condition was checked and no abnormalities were found so far.

Comments online were generally disapproving of such unscrupulous behavior but took solace in the fact that the man unwittingly turned himself into a human guinea pig for the benefit of science.

“Mutant grandpa!”

“He’s got a pretty good lust for life for a guy in his 80s, and he’s now a valuable test case.”

“I hope they are getting a lot of data off him.”

“Is he going to be OK?”

“What a guy! To submit yourself to four inoculations and make yourself a human experiment.”

“Normally I’d laugh at something like this, but wasting vaccines is unforgivable.”

“He’s like the polar opposite of an anti-vaxxer.”

Indeed, this man seems to have created a whole new ideology regarding vaccinations. Perhaps “vax-maniax” could describe people like this man who crave more inoculations in the belief that it gives them an added level of protection than the recommended dosage. Of course, that would be ill-advised as it just puts people at a slightly higher risk of side effects such as fever.

Source: Tokyo Shimbun Web, Hachima Kiko, NCBI

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Coming back to Japan I could easily do the same thing but being slightly more aware of the health implications; will not follow this careless action…

5 ( +6 / -1 )

I envy him.

I wish I could get even 1 jab.

10 ( +16 / -6 )

Get out of Japan and you easily can..,

0 ( +9 / -9 )

“I thought the more times I got it, the more effective it would be,”

This kind of thinking comes because of all the fearmongering BS which is spreading around by the media and all the self nominated and so called experts.

The only outcome of all that fearmongering spreading, is that people are over-scared and lost already all rational thinking.

3 ( +15 / -12 )

Well, with news about Pfizer wanting to get people to get a third jab... he might just be a visionary and took four just in case.

Now on a more serious note, I think people should inform themselves about vaccines in general.

These days we have those who got maybe 50 jabs in their life but decided this vaccine is not safe. And those who think we need more and more jabs to get close to 100% efficiency, and still live in a bunker until that happens.

Just to have an idea, the average influenza vaccine in most countries is around 50% efficient.

People, do your part and just get your couple of jabs as you did in the past for other occasions, and move on with your life.

Nice and simple. No need for paranoias.

16 ( +18 / -2 )

Let me get this straight. The man is in his 80's and he's still working. On top of that he works in health care, he should have known better. By taking those two shots he never needed he might have caused someone to get covid. I personally think he should retire or be fired for his his very poor decision. My 75 year old mother in-law doesn't get her second shot until July 17th.

3 ( +11 / -8 )

Just got my jab yesterday. It makes one very sleepy, so do it on a day off.

10 ( +12 / -2 )

Laguna,

same here, got mine (first one) on Wednesday, felt a little "burned out" the following day.

Elsewise, no problems. The only way to fight that virus is to get as many as possible inoculated.

6 ( +11 / -5 )

Laguna.....

It made YOU sleepy. I felt not difference after first or second jabs. Neither did Ms Kipling or most others I know who have had it.

5 ( +14 / -9 )

I want to know how much he was charged!

3 ( +5 / -2 )

He went to get vaccinated four times since it is free. I saw a news showing a lady in the third world country who was crying. She cannot get vaccinated because she does not have money.

10 ( +10 / -0 )

runner3, have no idea why the down votes. I agree what is he doing at 80 working? Obviously his mental agility has failed, getting 4 shots and working in health care? You would hope those in health care industry have a basic understanding of vaccines. That some don’t is a cause of concern.

1 ( +7 / -6 )

Those more knowledgeable of statistical probability can better tell us if this is a ‘rare’ case

or

is the actual rate of the Japan’s vaccination rollout much less than publicized?

0 ( +1 / -1 )

A professional catering to the medical industry should have known better.

*- “*This person has a job frequently traveling to a hospital outside of Teshikaga. This work appeared to have made him eligible for the first wave of health care worker vaccinations …“I thought the more times I got it, the more effective it would be,” the man reportedly said,” -

0 ( +1 / -1 )

Are an apology from his company and ‘early’ retirement now pending?

1 ( +2 / -1 )

This kind of thinking comes because of all the fearmongering BS which is spreading around by the media and all the self nominated and so called experts.

No, it comes from unreasonable personal ignorance and lack of interest informing himself even if his work involved visiting hospitals frequently. You personally not believing the science do not mean the experts are doing any "fear mongering", prove anything they say wrong and you would have a point, without that they are simply much more likely to be right.

He is not at a specially high risk of heavy problems because of the extra doses (vaccinated health professionals that get exposed to the infection constantly after vaccination would have already resulted in signs of alarm) but obviously it is not recommended to use it, it deprives someone else of very necessary protection and could result in scaring people away from the vaccines with a little bad luck.

-1 ( +5 / -6 )

bokudaToday 06:33 am JST

I envy him.

I wish I could get even 1 jab.

It depends where you are living in Japan, some provinces are really good organized and others are nothing but a chaos. We had no problems at all. It's not everywhere the same.

3 ( +3 / -0 )

 I saw a news showing a lady in the third world country who was crying. She cannot get vaccinated because she does not have money.

Also Japan is a richer country with closer ties to the U.S. so we can get the better U.S. vaccines. A friend living in Bangkok was only able to the Chinese vaccines.

-2 ( +1 / -3 )

The only outcome of all that fearmongering spreading, is that people are over-scared and lost already all rational thinking.

Indeed. Mass psychosis is well on its way to being established. Hope he stays well.

-2 ( +3 / -5 )

Also Japan is a richer country with closer ties to the U.S. so we can get the better U.S. vaccines. A friend living in Bangkok was only able to the Chinese vaccines.

Agreed, but even the Chinese vaccines have been effective at preventing serious COVID cases. None of the vaccines are 100%, all the time at preventing all versions of COVID. What they are good at is drastically reducing the chance of getting the variant they were designed against AND at making hospitalization from most of the other variants necessary.

There's a big difference in being sick for a few days at home and needing to be in hospital for 3 weeks with advanced medical care. That's what the vaccines do mostly.

It also appears that the Chinese vaccines and others based on the old-school dead virus methods don't last as long as the newer mRNA versions. The studies are still out on all of this, but I've read multiple stories about people who have COVID, then got one of the mRNA vaccines showing the same anti-body ramp up as what life-time immunity shows in other diseases.

Ref: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/28/health/coronavirus-vaccines-immunity.html

The vaccines made by Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna set off a persistent immune reaction in the body that may protect against the coronavirus for years, scientists reported on Monday.

The findings add to growing evidence that most people immunized with the mRNA vaccines may not need boosters, so long as the virus and its variants do not evolve much beyond their current forms — which is not guaranteed. People who recovered from Covid-19 before being vaccinated may not need boosters even if the virus does make a significant transformation.

0 ( +3 / -3 )

Big Pharma want you to have a booster because it is a nice little earner for them. Some of them spent a fortune developing mRNA vaccines as a solution waiting for a pandemic. Luckily for them, Covid turned up just in time.

Politicians are ordering 3rd boosters as they don't want to be left behind again. Which is understandable.

Medics aren't sure they will be needed. The vaccines are outperforming expectations. They appear to train your immune system to cope well with variants. 1 shot gives clinically vulnerable people about 60% protection against symptoms, both give 90%. And that is both Pfizer and Astra Zeneca from real world tests in the UK. This backs up Israeli test results and the original lab results. Protection against serious illness and death is higher than those figures.

Those with a weakened immune system really need both does, giving them around 74% protection*. One is not enough if you are immunocompromised. These folk need to be prioritised for their second dose above healthcare workers and the elderly.

There is limited data for immunocompromised people, for obvious reasons.

[Source: BBC News.]

The Hokkaido guy will be medically interesting but he took someone else's jabs, so don't copy him. There is no additional benefit. If booster shots are deployed in the autumn they may well differ from current jabs and may only be needed by older folk or those with pre-existing conditions (if at all). In general, overdosing on anything medical is unwise, including vaccinations.

There has been an element of chaos in the vaccination roll out. It does rely on people being honest and keeping appointments. Those operating it do not need extra hassle, so please do your bit.

Vaccination is the only solution to a pandemic. The vaccines are working, and when rolled out, countries can begin to treat Covid as they do flu and end restrictions. We are getting there. Get your jabs as soon as you can.

4 ( +6 / -2 )

A stupid and selfish old man.

5 ( +9 / -4 )

Well at least we now know it is not a problem to get the #3 or even #4 doses.

3 ( +5 / -2 )

Well at least we now know it is not a problem to get the #3 or even #4 doses.

1 ( +3 / -2 )

Maybe he's just senile, and forgot...lots of that going around these days, too.

-3 ( +1 / -4 )

Well, he made it to the 4th and in his 80’s , I doubt you will all do to your 10th at a lower age.

0 ( +1 / -1 )

A Japanese lady just informed me that the vaccines may run out. What do you mean? And she went on saying how she got the first dose of the Pfizer vaccine, but her doctor told her she might not be able to get the second one 3 weeks later. Her doctor complained to her that it looked like the Japanese government was dropping the ball again.

5 ( +6 / -1 )

Mr Kipling, personal anecdotes cut both ways. I’ve had two friends who had moderate side effects for 1-2 days after getting their shots. I booked both of mine on fridays in case I’m out for the weekend.

4 ( +4 / -0 )

The adverse reaction rate to the shots appears to be 1-2%. 98% of the people getting the shots appear to be OK. This explains why I'm not hearing about adverse reactions at the two places I'm currently working at. This is for near term effects only, mind you. The long term effects are unknown at this time. But you can bet your bottom dollar that there will be some. My guess is we'll see a dramatic rise in autoimmunity disorders over the next 3-5 years. I think there will be a similar increase in cardio-vascular issues as well.

In the absence of definitive evidence suggesting otherwise, I think all of this is nothing more than profiteering on the part of stakeholders. If there is a more nefarious, hidden agenda, I think its more sterilization than outright killing people. The death rate due to the shots is around 100 times that of the 1976 swine flu shot. But its a drop in the bucket compared to birthrates and regular death rates. However, there are growing reports of a high rate of miscarriages by pregnant women who get the shot during the first or second trimester. Unfortunately, there are no hard numbers on this. There is a lot of obfuscation going on here.

I consider the numbers surrounding the 1976 swine flu shot to be the legal "gold standard" for vaccine safety. That these Covidshots are still being promoted despite having an officially documented death rate ONE HUNDRED TIMES that of the 1976 swine flu shot, on this basis alone, constitutes a crime against humanity.

-3 ( +3 / -6 )

In June, he also received vouchers from the town of Teshikaga and a notification that he was eligible for the second wave of senior citizen vaccinations. “I thought the more times I got it, the more effective it would be,” the man reportedly said, explaining afterward why he had decided to go back for even more COVID-19 shots.

Good grief, a real genius here.

2 ( +3 / -1 )

Mr Kipling

Laguna.....

It made YOU sleepy. I felt not difference after first or second jabs. Neither did Ms Kipling or most others I know who have had it.

The side-effects of the vaccines depend on a number of factors: which jab, are you male/female, your health, your age, your weight, have you already had covid, etc.

I had my first covid jab a week ago and my arm was painful for 3 days. On the second day, I was also extremely exhausted (not just sleepy) and had some fever. After that, everything's back to normal.

At least where I'm from, it's common knowledge that any kind of vaccines may make you feel a little bit under the weather for a couple of days. Laguna's advice is reasonable: you have no way of knowing if you'll feel normal or not, the following day - I once had a fever of 39c after a vaccine (several years ago). It really is sensible to have a day-off on the next day.

3 ( +4 / -1 )

Ego Sum Lux Mundi

The adverse reaction rate to the shots appears to be 1-2%. 98% of the people getting the shots appear to be OK

For now. We do not know the long-term effects of the mRNA things yet. And organizations like the CDC and Osha have changed their reporting rules so that minor side effects are not counted any more, unlike the standard practise until now.

-2 ( +3 / -5 )

GBR48

Vaccination is the only solution to a pandemic. 

Says who? If effective treatment protocols are available, why vaccinate? You can not possible vaccinate against every variant of every old and new virus, even if you want to look like a needle cushion. This narrative should be questioned.

-2 ( +3 / -5 )

Ego sum any chance you can back any of that up with data from reliable trusted institutions or news sources? Facebook does not count.

0 ( +2 / -2 )

No Booster for him

1 ( +1 / -0 )

When I got my first jab in Japan I had to provide an answered questionairre whether I had received the vaccine before. Apparently this man lied.

4 ( +4 / -0 )

This guy got 4 shots, while I still cannot get one, as government have blocked us from obtaining appointments and there are no more appointments left until next year.

0 ( +0 / -0 )

Says who? If effective treatment protocols are available, why vaccinate? You can not possible vaccinate against every variant of every old and new virus, even if you want to look like a needle cushion. This narrative should be questioned.

Effective treatmens are not available, at least not to the degree of protection the vaccines offer, and vaccines against all variants of a virus are the norm, not the exception, for most not even more than one vaccine is necessary to protect from them.

Questioning something and getting actual answers that disprove the supposed problems is not what is being frowned upon, making up imaginary dangers or rejecting the answers based on supposed conspiracies that would make the scientific consensus false (without any proof) is what is not valid and should be discarded precisely because of that reason.

0 ( +3 / -3 )

Sounds like a jerk to me.

But what’s done is done.

Can’t arrest him.

But hopefully everyone around him will give him flack and put him on blast for the next year or so.

Hopefully we don’t have copycats in the next few months.

-1 ( +0 / -1 )

He believes one dose will survive him 5 years. He wants to live at least until 100. He calculated well.

-1 ( +0 / -1 )

Here in the UK anyone can walk in off the street and get a jab. No appointment necessary.

0 ( +1 / -1 )

And here I am with an appointment for July 29 for my first shot of Pfizer and getting the notice that my appointment has been cancelled because they don't have enough to give me my second dose in August.

Luckily I had myself on every waiting list possible in my ward and got a notice of a cancellation this Friday and jumped atvl the chance.

It will be Moderna but I don't care.

At least all those phone calls (yes phone calls, no other way of getting on the waiting list expect by calling each vaccination location individually and asking if they have space on their waiting list).

So unless they suddenly realised they over booked the Moderna also I will get at least my first dose.

Our ward is no longer taking online appointments as it has already booked all available vaccine it is expected to receive.

0 ( +2 / -2 )

Well, if anybody is able to attend the Olympics or not have to deal with any restrictions, it should be this guy. He is probably well protected from COVID. Haha. This is a funny story to me.

-1 ( +0 / -1 )

“I thought the more times I got it, the more effective it would be,” the man reportedly said

I can just imagine what's going on in his mind. The innocence, because he wasn't hurt, is adorable.

-1 ( +0 / -1 )

"I wish I could get even 1 jab."

You can; relocate to Eswatini.

Simples.

-2 ( +0 / -2 )

@virusrex

How can you possibly know what 4 doses of any particular vaccine does to the human body

Always you refer to the ‘science’ and ‘studies’

but exactly what studies are there to show the effects of multiple shots of the same vaccine?

Waiting for the evidence-thanks

-1 ( +2 / -3 )

but exactly what studies are there to show the effects of multiple shots of the same vaccine?

I clearly explained my reasoning, if you don't want to consider it logical it is completely fine.

0 ( +2 / -2 )

Without proof it is just an uninformed opinion-thanks.

-3 ( +1 / -4 )

Without proof it is just an uninformed opinion-thanks.

Based on something, what part of the reasoning can you prove false?

1 ( +2 / -1 )

Cricky, thank you. We both seem to be on the same page. In Canada I don't think that could happen. Every time you get a shot it's recorded on a computer.

0 ( +0 / -0 )

kurisupisu

@virusrex

How can you possibly know what 4 doses of any particular vaccine does to the human body

Always you refer to the ‘science’ and ‘studies’

but exactly what studies are there to show the effects of multiple shots of the same vaccine?

Waiting for the evidence-thanks

That will be a long wait. We always just treated to the same circular argument that somehow there is government-approved authority that decides what is "science". Meanwhile, medical professionals up to and including nobel prize winners who disagree are apparently ignorant about science.

1 ( +2 / -1 )

That will be a long wait. 

So long that it was done long before you even commented?

Science is decided by scientists as in the international community, the false argument that the government decides it is too obviously impossible, as there is no government that can decide what evidence is found and published around the whole world.

Any person that concludes something MUST be true even without evidence can be wrong, no matter how many credentials it has, and if this person concludes something with clear evidence of the opposite then it can safely be considered wrong.

Thinking credentials mean anything for science is being ignorant about the process, but for people that believe conspiracies as a religion it is a very natural way of thinking, since the figures they admire make a point of telling their followers their authority trumps over evidence, which is obviously nonsense.

-2 ( +0 / -2 )

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