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Japan claims that no detectable amount of tritium has been found in seawater samples taken from where Japan began disposing of treated radioactive water into the nearby sea. 

However, if tritium were found, do you really think the public would be informed?

Remember, this is the same government that claimed in March 2020 that it had COVID under control only to see the numbers surge fivefold two days after the government announced that it was going to postpone the Tokyo Olympics.

Trust takes years to build, seconds to break, and forever to repair. And unfortunately, repeated scandals have weakened the public’s trust in assertions made by the Japanese government. 

“Japan's sudden spike in coronavirus cases after Tokyo Olympics postponement raises eyebrows,” https://abcnews.go.com/International/japans-sudden-spike-coronavirus-cases-tokyo-olympics-postponement/story?id=70041840

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The results of the samples aren't supposed to be officially announced until Sunday

— Excerpt from news report titled “Tritium not detected in samples from waters off Fukushima plant“

No detectable amount of tritium was found in seawater samples taken from off the site of the wrecked Fukushima nuclear power plant, where Japan began disposing of treated radioactive water into the nearby sea, the plant's operator said Friday.

Tokyo Electric Power Company Holdings Inc. released the results after analyzing the samples, taken from 10 locations within a distance of 3 kilometers of the Fukushima Daiichi power plant a few hours after the water discharge began on Thursday.

https://english.kyodonews.net/news/2023/08/dd0369255f12-seawater-sampling-stepped-up-day-after-fukushima-water-release.html

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There is more than just tritium moving around off the coast in Fukushima.

US sailors off the coast were sickened by plumes of radiation that contacted their ship as they also sought to decontaminate their vessel by scrubbing down the decks-that contamination ended up in the sea off Fukushima too.

Ground water, not treated still flows into the ocean too.

The focus on just tritium and it’s current release is just part of the picture

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The amount of Tritium is supposed to be minute not non-existent

If you read the text you quote it does not say the amount is non-existent, it just says it is so low that it can't be detected. Which is perfectly reasonable since tests have a limit of detection, this means they can report the concentration is below that limit, not necessarily zero.

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US sailors off the coast were sickened by plumes of radiation that contacted their ship as they also sought to decontaminate their vessel by scrubbing down the decks-that contamination ended up in the sea off Fukushima too.

Yup and sadly those sailors all got cancer too because of the 3 full meltdown while at first the Japanese government wasn’t trying to hide that there were an explosion at the plant

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Because it’s supply chain. Lets see in 2 weeks or a month from now.

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US sailors off the coast were sickened by plumes of radiation that contacted their ship as they also sought to decontaminate their vessel by scrubbing down the decks-that contamination ended up in the sea off Fukushima too.

Yes, but that was 12 years ago … in 2011, not this past week.

https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/military/sdut-are-sailors-symptoms-from-radiation-2013jan12-story.html

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The ocean contains tritium naturally. Nuclear Power Stations along the coastline everywhere on the planet add to it.

It sounds as if no unusual spikes have been recorded.

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Sounds to me like many folks in Hong Kong can read through China's politically driven BS.

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China dumps triple the amount of tritium-"tainted" water than Japan for decades, no one bat an eye. Even with this Fukushima water, China still number ONE! Hypocritic CCP, they just want to appear "tough". Like Sun Tzu said, "appear though, when you're weak".

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All Chinese and Koreans should stop eating seafood for their health because seas everywhere are polluted by nuclear power plants.

That is also what the Chinese government recommends, and it will relieve the worries of the Korean people.

China and South Korea's fisheries, which are overfishing the world's oceans, will stop, and everyone, nature and humans, will be happy.

To that end, the Japanese government must dramatize the figures more and advertise as if a large amount of tritium is flowing into the sea. And it should be announced more forcefully that all the oceans are polluted, as nuclides other than tritium have not been removed. This is because all Western democracies, excluding South Korea, should share the facts and analyze the treated water if necessary.

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More than 20 customers

Yes that summarize it all.

There is bigger line-up for my local sukiya.

That says a lot about the very small town where you must live. 20 people lined up at 10:30am in cuisine-rich Hong Kong is a sign of success.

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I bet the Hong Kongers know their government is full of horse hockey. Not surprising there.

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I hope these Hong Kongers are intelligent enough to realise they will soon be eating non-Japanese sushi at these sushi shops.

Sadly, it would not shock me to see knee-jerk actions and attacks taken against Japanese restaurants in Hong Kong. HK is certainly not the peaceful, orderly place it used to be.

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Completely overrated food. Go for a steak instead.

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"I personally wouldn't worry about issues like eating raw seafood from Japan," he added. "Even if Japan discharges nuclear wastewater, I would still come here to dine."

Great!

Now all the Chinese can relax and dig in!

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Completely overrated food. Go for a steak instead.

as long as it is not from kanto, Tohoku or feed with Fukushima straw.

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It’s only been three days since the release started. Things will change after six months and the results of testing show radiation building up in fish.

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As if the fish they are ordering today could in any way be tainted by what is going on in Fukushima.

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Too early to tell.

These people knew the fish they ate were not caught yesterday.

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However, if tritium were found, do you really think the public would be informed?

These are good questions. Do we trust TEPCO?

They are so successful at deflecting attention away from the release of nuclear “contaminated” water and not nuclear “waste” water.

Instead of discussing whether TEPCO and the Japanese government can be trusted and the verification reliable or not, they distract you with China.

China has been used to absorb the anger of the Japanese government’s decision.

Our discussion should not be on irrelevant topics such as China’s wet markets and pollution or Hong Kong Seafood or sushi restaurants but instead on whether the processing results of this equipment are unreliable or not.

The inspection by the International Atomic Energy Agency only checked the three water tanks designated by Tokyo Electric Power Company. Did they check all of the tanks? Thousands of water tanks were not checked and cannot be checked.

Do you trust TEPCO is what this boils down to. Do you trust TEPCO?

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The IAEA is monitoring the waste water.

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Japan's emission plan is as long as 25-30 years. Who is able to and going to oversee the whole process? No one.

Can the whole world "regulate" through data reported unilaterally by Japan.

Actually it’s not so much Japan but TEPCO is what this boils down to. It comes down to some Ossan in a suit who knows how to bow and apologize. Do you trust that panel of Ossans?

Are they competent in overseeing this or did they conclude their meeting and say “we’ll just say that ….we’ll just tell them.”

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The IAEA is monitoring the waste water

Contaminated water and waste water are not the same. Fukushima is the former.

Nuclear power plants in the U.S., Canada, France, China and other countries are operating normally. What they discharge is called "nuclear wastewater." This water does not come into contact with the interior of the reactor, but is only cooled by heat exchangers.

Nuclear wastewater does not contain radioactive pollutants, but only a small amount of tritium. No matter where it is discharged, the harm is very small.

Japan's discharge is "nuclear contaminated water", which is water produced to cool the core after the reactor ruptured. This water is in contact with the reactor core and contains a large amount of radioactive contamination elements.

TEPCO claims it has purified this water with multi-nuclides treatment equipment and declared that there are no more radioactive pollutants in the water.

Do you think TEPCO is competent?

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Meh 20 people lined up at Sushiro in Hong Kong to eat sushi caught somewhere else before the waste was even dumped.

that’s all the proof we need that everything is just fiiiiiine, see?

People didn’t even notice or care. cause that’s what most people are conditioned to do and be by now, sad.

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The IAEA has an office at the Fukushima NPP and is monitoring all aspects of the disaster and recovery.

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The IAEA is monitoring the waste water.

Monitoring the data provided by TEPCO. It would be as if you’re investigating Hunter Biden but you only have documents provided by the Biden family.

Have you read the disclaimer from IAEA’s report? They are basically saying IF data provided by the Japanese side is true.

So it depends if you trust the people who run TEPCO.

Have there been lies and coverups regarding the entire incident (and other Japanese industries) in the past?

The information and data on this webpage are provided by Tokyo Electric Power Company Holdings, Incorporated (TEPCO). The Agency will monitor the status and operation of installed equipment as part of its continuous presence at the site.

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China is a part of this team!

Ok then why is that same China saying this (and banning all seafood from Japan)?

But China’s Geng, whose country has banned seafood from Japan, reiterated Beijing’s strong opposition, saying the discharge of “nuclear-contaminated water” into the ocean is “transferring the nuclear threat to the whole world.”

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Because it’s about politics not science. Read the IAEA reports.

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That is untrue as well.

This is from their IAEA webpage.

Because it’s about politics not science. Read the IAEA reports

And based only on the Sara provided by TEPCO. Do you trust TEPCO?

The information and data on this webpage are provided by Tokyo Electric Power Company Holdings, Incorporated (TEPCO). The Agency will monitor the status and operation of installed equipment as part of its continuous presence at the site.

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Japan loves to do the dog and pony show. That’s what the IAEA’s office is.

You seem very angry over things you make up in your head. Do you believe that is healthy?

Try not to deflect. IAEA is reporting through filtered data.

The information and data on this webpage are provided by Tokyo Electric Power Company Holdings, Incorporated (TEPCO). The Agency will monitor the status and operation of installed equipment as part of its continuous presence at the site.

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Because it’s about politics not science. Read the IAEA reports.

It’s the science part we’re discussing. China is irrelevant….just the IAEA, TEPCO and the contaminated water.

The IAEA can only confirm what TEPCO shows them.

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IAEA made independent report. Read it.

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IAEA made independent report. Read it.

Report based on TEPCO data. Look up independent.

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And that, again, is untrue, regardless of your shrieking to the opposite.

Nope. That’s the IAEA disclaimer. Denying doesn’t change the fact they are only as good as TEPCO.

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https://www.iaea.org/topics/response/fukushima-daiichi-nuclear-accident/fukushima-daiichi-alps-treated-water-discharge/tepco-data

The information and data on this webpage are provided by Tokyo Electric Power Company Holdings, Incorporated (TEPCO). The Agency will monitor the status and operation of installed equipment as part of its continuous presence at the site.

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The released water contains less than 22TBq of Tritium in one year.

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https://www.meti.go.jp/earthquake/nuclear/hairo_osensui/english/shirou_alps/monitoring/

So what part of what I said was untrue? You said it is untrue.

The information and data on this webpage are provided by Tokyo Electric Power Company Holdings, Incorporated (TEPCO). The Agency will monitor the status and operation of installed equipment as part of its continuous presence at the site.

So this is true. They are saying we can o it report based on information and data provided by TEPCO. So no this is not untrue as you claimed and it is not considered independent.

Next you put a link from METI. This is not independent either. If a Japanese government agency sufficed, why would they need IAEA?

Lastly, I questioned IAEA’s reliability. You say that I am pushing forth a conspiracy theory.

Now you may go and read more and report back to us an independent 3rd party report not based on TEPCO’s report.

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The released water contains less than 22TBq of Tritium in one year.

and if the “water” as you call it (to avoid calling it nuclear waste) were not released?

0 TBq of tritium per year.

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The disclaimer is only on one page!

yeah….why is that?

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IAEA Finds Japan’s Plans to Release Treated Water into the Sea at Fukushima Consistent with International Safety Standards

https://www.iaea.org/newscenter/pressreleases/iaea-finds-japans-plans-to-release-treated-water-into-the-sea-at-fukushima-consistent-with-international-safety-standards

IAEA COMPREHENSIVE REPORT ON THE SAFETY REVIEW OF THE ALPS-TREATED WATER AT THE FUKUSHIMA DAIICHI NUCLEAR POWER STATION

https://www.iaea.org/sites/default/files/iaea_comprehensive_alps_report.pdf

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Blacklabel

   The released water contains less than 22TBq of Tritium in one year.

> and if the “water” as you call it (to avoid calling it nuclear waste) were not released?

> 0 TBq of tritium per year.

How much Tritium water does the US release every year?

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@Wallace

I could be wrong but you seem to be missing the point or are ignoring it. Yes, there was a report and as you summarized: IAEA Finds Japan’s Plans to Release Treated Water into the Sea at Fukushima Consistent with International Safety Standards. 

Im not sure that is the discussion.  It’s too easy to just say,” IAEA says it’s fine.” Looking more into this is actually due diligence and taking responsibility. Questioning the matter is not necessary conspiratorial and deflection and politics are indeed unnecessary. 

There seems to have been a lack of objective oversight. Japan defined the testing parameters, Japan did the testing and analysis, Japan collected and sent the samples off to be tested by IAEA. Then IAEA says the treated contaminated product is consistent with international standards. 

Doesn’t anyone see a problem with that? 

Even some Japanese, don’t trust TEPCO to present honest data - we needed a neutral parties in this, not one that stamps TEPCO tests. There will be protests in Tokyo. I saw two people speaking out today, one in Shinjuku and one in Nakano. You just know they are organizing the march down Meiji and Omotesan boulevards. 

It would be a lot better if another country, say New Zealand or some other third party had come over here to Japan and to Fukushima and physically checked it out for themselves instead of TEPCO.

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IAEA merely “reviews” TEPCO’s plans for treating the contaminated water and “monitors” the discharge. A lawyer may review a will but you also need an executor and executors.

What we have from IAEA are just TEPCO claims:

The contaminated water has been collected, treated to reduce the radioactive content and stored in more than 1,000 stainless steel tanks at the site. The power-station operator, Tokyo Electric Power Company (TEPCO), so far has used what it describes as an advanced liquid-processing system (ALPS) to treat the water. TEPCO says the water undergoes five processing stages of co-sedimentation, adsorption and physical filtration. The plan for disposing of the radioactive waste created in the ALPS process will be “gradually revealed as the decommissioning process progresses”, according to communication the Permanent Mission of Japan to the International Organizations in Vienna sent to the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA).

The ALPS process removes enough of 62 of the 64 radionuclides to bring their concentration below Japan’s 2022 regulatory limits for water to be discharged into the environment. These limits are based on recommendations from the International Commission on Radiological Protection.

But that process does not remove carbon-14 and tritium, so the treated water needs to be diluted further to less than one part per 100 parts of seawater. TEPCO says that the resulting concentration of tritium is around 1,500 becquerels (a measure of the radioactivity of a substance) per litre — around one-seventh of the World Health Organization’s guidelines for tritium in drinking water. The company suggests that the concentration of tritium will drop to background ocean levels within a few kilometres of the discharge site. The carbon-14 in the tanks is currently at concentrations of around 2% of the upper limit set by regulations, TEPCO says, and this will reduce further with the seawater dilution that takes place before the water is discharged.

…TEPCO says, TEPCO says, TEPCO says...if you know how they handled the disaster in 2011, you will know their irresponsible management directly caused the mess we're looking at today. They know how to bow I’ll give you that.

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The following come from this article :

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/premium/article/fukushima-japan-nuclear-wastewater-pacific-ocean

American scientists are raising concerns that marine life and ocean currents could carry harmful radioactive isotopes—also called radionuclides—across the entire Pacific Ocean.

This past December, the United States-based National Association of Marine Laboratories—an organization with more than a hundred member labs in the U.S. or U.S. territories—released a statement opposing the wastewater release plan. It cited “a lack of adequate and accurate scientific data supporting Japan’s assertion of safety.” 

Buesseler cautions that the filtration system has not yet “been shown to be effective all of the time.” He says there are other “highly concerning elements … that they haven’t been able to clean up,” such as cesium and strontium-90, an isotope that increases risks of bone cancer and leukemia, earning it the sinister designation of “bone seeker.”  

After examining TEPCO’s data on some of the wastewater storage tanks, Buesseler and his colleagues say that after treatment, the wastewater still contained radioactive isotopes whose levels varied significantly from tank to tank. “It’s unfair to say that they’ve been successfully removed,” he says. 

“The root of this problem is that they are moving already with a plan that has not yet shown that it will work,” Buesseler says. “They’re saying, ‘We can make it work. We’ll treat it as many times as it takes.’ If you want to put a nickname on this plan, it’s ‘trust us; we’ll take care of it.’”

Like I said, it boils down to whether you trust TEPCO. If things go wrong, will they disclose it if they don’t have to?

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It is obviously not affecting sushi sales in HK then, so I can assume that the people there are more than aware that the actual tritium levels in the ocean poses no real threat. All oceans have tritium in them anyway, and the tritium being released has been diluted many many times. One final note, everyone in this world is surrounded by radiation of some sort, it is all around us. Just give it a few weeks and this story will just fade away.

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Only the ignorant need fear. It's like a drop of water in an entire pond. The communists just like to bluster.

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The following come from this article :

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/premium/article/fukushima-japan-nuclear-wastewater-pacific-ocean

This is a leftist propaganda piece from NYC. They fear monger as a matter of course.

People who live in Manhattan haven't the slightest idea how nuclear plants function, they just know they are afraid all the time because that is the way democrats like them to be. Makes them easier to control.

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