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In-home COVID-19 isolation contributing to Japan's virus spread

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"I couldn't eat and there were times when I thought I would die," the woman said. She still suffers from a loss of taste, one of the common symptoms of COVID-19.

Sounds like she had a bad case, certainly worse than the flu.

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“Limit the number if things they touch or share” - he says. Bloody hard if you are crammed into a small apartment. Ridiculous comment from someone who is meant to be smart!

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Where the hell else do you expect them to go ?

Plus if I read ‘As Japan struggles to contain a recent surge of coronavirus infections’ one more time, my head might explode. It’s like Groundhog Day reading the papers

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But there was no other option but to share a bathroom and toilet

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So you get coronavirus at home during the shut-down or outside? Might as well go out and enjoy life.

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But there was no other option but to share a bathroom and toilet

makes no difference if you were at home or at a public toilet in an office building. The trains I think is worse and where many are getting infected from. Home isolation will spread around. Did the doctors think it was just a cold?

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This article is more of a criticism of Japan's poor housing situation, not the corona virus. Many people in other countries are also self isolating in their homes, but since they have enough rooms, bathrooms etc. they are able to do it safely. But here in Japan with tiny apartments and houses, with many people crammed into them, there is no way to avoid spreading the virus while you isolate at home.

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So you get coronavirus at home during the shut-down or outside? Might as well go out and enjoy life.

She got it outside and brought it home. Best not to catch it in the first place.

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So you get coronavirus at home during the shut-down or outside? Might as well go out and enjoy life.

Yeah, sure. Instead of containing it to just your family, cause countless strangers to get infected. Thats enjoying life when you have zero conscience.

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Anyone remember the Diamond Princess?

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@mark x

Not it isn't. Do you live in Japan? I do and have for 27 years. The country is 70 percent mountainous making land suitable for housing scarce. I come from England and the houses and apartments there are bigger but not that bigger. Ever been to Hong Kong, Singapore , Taiwan, macau? Smaller apartments than here. This isn't the american dream where people have six toilets, 6 bedrooms and a pool . I live in a 90 square meter apartment in Osaka which is pretty big for 3 people. You are totally wrong, the article is a criticism of the lack of hospital beds for the 30 000 people waiting for one. It has nothing to do with housing. Most apartments and houses here are adequate for the population density. Some people live in smaller places due to economic reasons.

Very very unsubstantiated post

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I read,was it Indonesia? Where they inject the adult aged working people before the elderly.The premise being they have to go outside to work and risk bringing it back in the home.Kinda makes sense.

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Multiple data have already suggested that home infection cases (both initial and self-isolation stages) are responsible for the clustered spread during the third wave though state officials insisted on regulating only restaurants and bars.

The short of business hours not only forms crowds on the floors but also could let people spend at home eating and talking with other family members of high risk groups, such as aged parents. The regulation may deprive them of a safe refuge place away from home. Japan's housing structure, its relatively small spaces and physical proximity to neighbors may also contribute to home/community infections.

I've been practicing "solo and silent eating," now feeling a mild home sick for parents' place. They are aged and unable to communicate live online. A vax program (not a negative PCR result) is my current hope and passport to back home.

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I read,was it Indonesia? Where they inject the adult aged working people before the elderly.The premise being they have to go outside to work and risk bringing it back in the home.Kinda makes sense.

It doesn't make sense and is flawed, the elderly are the people who are most at risk of dying if you wait until everybody else is inoculated the elderly and at risk will continue to die, unless that is what the country is wanting as they are seen as a burden.

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samuraivunyl, Yes, I have been to Taiwan, Singapore, Korea and they have much bigger and better apartments condos than Japan has. You are just parroting what the rotten housing industry is selling.

If people who have mild symptoms, it seems ridiculous to hospitalize all of them. If we did that, then patients who require other medical care would not be treated causing more pain, suffering and maybe even death!

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I don’t see this virus as contagious as the media portends it to be.

Upstairs from me a family of five. Two got it. 30 and 53 year old. The 31, 60, and 82 year old never got it.

Another family of four. Two got it. Others negative.

So what is the real deal?

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Can't see the connection of the picture with this article at all!

Moderator: The woman in the photo is mentioned in the story.

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I don’t see this virus as contagious as the media portends it to be.

100% completely agree.

And Japan is not a Banana republic.

Absolutely not! Japan has the best pandemic response and public health expert panels in the world!

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I don’t see this virus as contagious as the media portends it to be.

Because the media never report and write articles about the ones who had nearly no symptoms. It does not sell and they would be accused of downplaying the issue, with a high risk of loosing credibility and money. They are part of the awareness scheme toward the citizens.

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In-home COVID-19 isolation contributing to Japan's virus spread

Quick - obey the authorities, close all businesses and make everyone stay in their tiny homes with grandma.

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The virus might or not be as contagious as it is portrayed but that is not the point.

Not being able to breathe, suffer chronic lung damage, not work, suffer delirium, be a possible carrier etc are just some of the reasons that the virus is best avoided.

And the virus is to be found in excrement;worth remembering to wash hands well etc.

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Because the media never report and write articles about the ones who had nearly no symptoms. It does not sell and they would be accused of downplaying the issue, with a high risk of loosing credibility and money. They are part of the awareness scheme toward the citizens.

No, things are going the opposite. Media organisations have gained viewers and profits by propagating the virus stories, regardless of both validity and credibility. Covid19 has pushed many other newsworthy stories to the sideline, off public attentions (BTW, my latest favorable "non-Covid" news is Putin Palace).

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Closing the bars was always a scapegoating strategy

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In-home COVID-19 isolation contributing to Japan's virus spread

Lets face it, anyone with a case at home should assume they are themselves positive as well and just stay home for 14 days at least, NEVER leaving!

Unless you practise social distancing, wear a mask at home and keep windows open for appropriate ventilation, you have probably 90% chances of getting infected.

And if you think you are negative, maybe you were the one who brought it home in the first place and you were just assymptomatic, or you might have to wait a few days (5-6 average after contact with infectious person) until you become positive.

Common sense: anyone positive at home means EVERYONE that lives in that household should br isolated, no excuses.

That is the best you can do to break the chain of transmission and do the right thing as a citizen.

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@mark x

Rotten housing industry??? Bit of an exaggeration wouldn't you say?

You get what you pay for, anywhere in the world. Pay 120,000 yen and you'll get a big apartment in the suburbs of even tokyo ( I lived in a nice 2ldk in kichijoi for that ). Pay 60,000 yen and you'll get a crappy matchbox in any city in Japan. I am from England. Parents live in a 3 bedroom house with one toilet and bathroom. Totally the norm. That would be very difficult to quarantine someone in that situation too. Not a problem peculiar to Japan

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With hotels damn near empty and Olympic villages constructed for athletes idle, the question of where to isolate people just seems obvious. When is Japan going to pull finger out and use the resources which are available to her?

This is especially important where there is a tradition of multilple generations living in the same small dwelling.

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Cram 3 generations into a rabbit hutch and what do you expect will happen?

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Did they have adequate ventilation? Homes are the worst from transmitting the virus, especially overcrowded and multi generational homes

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Thousands of Diamond Princesses!

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With hotels damn near empty and Olympic villages constructed for athletes idle, the question of where to isolate people just seems obvious.

No better way to project the image that the Olympics are not going ahead than to use Olympic facilities and hotels reserved by Olympic visitors.

That's the answer, simple as that.

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This article is more of a criticism of Japan's poor housing situation, not the corona virus.

One bathroom per dwelling is the global norm, not the exception.

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I am against the media sensationalism but I am currently supporting a virus victim and It’s a nasty piece of work.

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There is no solution to this. Houses are too cramped, hospitals are too full. Good job there are so few cases compared with other countries.....

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Infections happen before getting the symptoms...

That's the trick with that covid-19.

No one coughs now. If you do, automatically people would leave the 5m circle around you in my country.

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Yes, of course, one risk down, the other up. But the difference here is, that you can easily name all the people around you or those you have contact with and then they all may get tested or isolated too. That’s not possible when you were on a train or in a big department store.

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I am against the media sensationalism but I am currently supporting a virus victim and It’s a nasty piece of work.

@kurisupisu - hope they make a quick recovery and that you don't get infected.

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