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JAL unveils tougher rules to control crew's alcohol consumption

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Why not just come out say it! ZERO tolerance policy as 0.0mg is just that! Oh and just what penalties are included if someone does try to board with a reading above zero? Going to fire them?

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Perhaps they should be changing the scheduling of their workers so they are not so stressed out they fill themselves with alcohol every chance they get? There seems to be a lot of undiagnosed alcoholism in Japan. I often see men on the train drinking a 500ml can of ‘super strong’ chu-hi on their way to work in the mornings.

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Following these incidents, JAL said six executives will face pay cuts for up to three months from February. Among them, Akasaka already had his salary reduced from December and will continue to see the disciplinary measure.

Meanless, they get the difference back in bonuses. The media need to report this!

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Zero is what it must be---Instant Dismissal for any infraction!

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Meanless, they get the difference back in bonuses. The media need to report this!

They wont get the "differences" back , as the money they were fined is not added on top of the bonus.

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I thought they already had alcohol tests, but they somehow could be skipped. Are they going to be mandatory, or could you walk around with your shoulders straight and head up high and say "no thank you"?

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They wont get the "differences" back , as the money they were fined is not added on top of the bonus.

The fact that they get a 'bonus' at all is more than enough. By the very definition, a 'bonus' is an extra, a reward for superior performance and service.

You cannot have a period where you have sub-par performance, especially one consisting of 3 months, and still have eligibility for a 'bonus.'

And considering that for most of these executives, the 'bonus' more than dwarfs their 'salary,' yeah... in essence it does make up the difference.

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The fact that they get a 'bonus' at all is more than enough. By the very definition, a 'bonus' is an extra, a reward for superior performance and service.

One, you have no idea about the Japanese pay system if you thing a "bonus" here is an extra reward for performance or otherwise. It ain't what you think.

You cannot have a period where you have sub-par performance, especially one consisting of 3 months, and still have eligibility for a 'bonus.'

Again you obviously are unaware of the system here and how it works. The word "bonus" is one thing, but in Japan it's EXPECTED and PAID by companies, it is NOT something special

And considering that for most of these executives, the 'bonus' more than dwarfs their 'salary,' yeah... in essence it does make up the difference.

A pilot or cabin attendant is NOT an executive!

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I would imagine this is a pretty rough job. But I would also imagine that people who like to constantly drink would choose something a little less strenuous and stressful as a career. The free travel cant be worth it. Maybe years ago when air travel and passengers were civilized.

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Zero is what it must be---Instant Dismissal for any infraction!

Problem is, zero is very hard to always get right. Some medicines have small amounts of alcohol in them. As do some desserts.

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It’s hard to believe the former limit was 0.1. That’s more than legally drunk in many countries and twice the legal limit in some. Yet they could fly hundreds of people at that level? Crazy. It should be zero.

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YubaruJan. 19  04:16 pm JST

Why not just come out say it! ZERO tolerance policy as 0.0mg is just that! Oh and just what penalties are included if someone does try to board with a reading above zero? Going to fire them?

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Exactly.

That is what it is going to take.

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It seems that it's not the current level that is the problem, it's that crew are not following the rules and keeping to that level.

Rather than setting limits & just hoping crew follow them how about a bit of crew education to make sure they fully understand consequences & impairment of their performance under alcohol.

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Now I'm even more afraid of flying

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There's a zero tolerance law for driving cars in Japan but not for pilots operating an aircraft with hundreds of passengers aboard? Interesting.

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0.00 milligram of alcohol per liter

that doesn't sound very practical. What's the error level of the machines? If the measurement error level requested is higher than the equipment capability, then everyone is going to fail. Whole planes will be shut down unless they have the staff to cover, which I doubt. Most airlines have staff shortages due to the stupid gruelling hours which forces people to quit and prevents new staff from joining. Once again it becomes just another story about terrible working hours

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"JAL said six executives will face pay cuts for up to three months from February." hahahahahahaha the point being?

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As "lives" are at stake, there must be fit and just requirements and punishments.

There was once a rule that said "three strikes and you are out".

The only problem is that the 1st strike may be the critical one where there is an accident or some major mishap. So leniency may not be possible when dealing with an aircraft.

So the "prevention" and "detention" "BEFORE" any flight is a necessity.

And "removing" and "preventing" any pilot so relieved of duty from getting any "job" piloting any aircraft in the future.

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you have to design a system that stops punishing people by including safety margins instead of the opposite or else accidents are essentially the design

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I guess the advertising slogan "Fly High with us"... was taken in the wrong way by a few... staff.

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