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Japan's elderly to get COVID-19 booster shots in early 2022

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Every year from now on, for anyone who wants one. Not me, unless they are free, in which case maybe. Never bothered with flu shots $

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I haven't seen the Japanese data but the FDA recently released an 8-hour long video which also covers their latest data on boosters, very interesting stuff if you haven't seen it

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WFph7-6t34M

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First finish vaccinating all the people that have not yet received any dose, once everybody has been protected then boosters can be used for vulnerable people. At this point there is no indication that boosters bring any benefit for medical personnel, even reduced antibody levels are protective enough.

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eight months since receiving their second dose, citing studies that show antibodies that protect against the disease decrease over time.

In Israel, vaccinations are considered null and void after 8 months.

So a person who received their first shot in January and their second in February would now be considered totally unvaccinated and would need a new round of boosters to keep their compliance passport active.

Personally, I'll opt out of that never end cat and mouse game.

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Medical personnel are expected to get their booster shots within the year, Kono told a press conference, as they were the first to be vaccinated in Japan starting in February.

If they are again prioritized for a booster jab, they must cooperate with the government on covid treatment. Many have remained idled, shy away from the frontline. Some hospitals refuse covid patients while receiving the subsidy.

President of the Tokyo Medical Association is hesitant at his backyard although he always demands hard restrictions on people and "risky" industries. His own hospitals haven't taken in covid patients.

東京都医師会の尾崎会長 自身の医院でなぜ陽性者を受け入れていないのか

https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/05f5dc210dd983123f1b8cf313c78981917b0333

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First finish vaccinating all the people that have not yet received any dose

The problem is that millions up millions of Japanese people (particularly young women) are opting out, which leaves an excess of vaccines that will eventually go stale and need to be thrown out.

Hence the push for 3rd shots, basically they have nothing better to do with these vaccines so might as well jab some arms.

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@Burning Bush - Millions and Millions opting out eh? Back that up please Sir. I walked past a pop up vaccination centre in Shibuya, Monday afternoon - The majority of those in line were, you guessed it, young woman. I recall your post the other day saying (once again), 'evidence suggests' that educated women in their 20's and 30's were opting out. There is NO such evidence in existence. The vaccine uptake here is immense, way beyond what I thought it would be, and you have your friends are losing and have indeed almost lost your propaganda battle. In the US - you will probably win over enough people who live in Red States and are sadly not informed enough and/or are guided by social media the the virus will continue to rage there.

I have news for you - the 'educated' here are not that gullible and will not fall into your trap of studies that you happily quote of context and/or are completely unproven.

Your claim that that the 3rd shots will come from expiring vaccines (I must chuckle at the use of the word 'stale') smacks of complete despair at the situation, in Japan has now, in fact become YOUR worst nightmare.

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Sensible people who care about health of their family, friends and co-worker, get vaccinated and get booster shots when it is their turn. Others who chose not to get vaccinated are self centered fascists who rather see their family, friends and co-worker suffer from COVID and in some cases die. They also extend the pandemic while complaining about shutdowns, vaccination and mask mandates! These fascists antisocial behavior is costing lives!

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It’s kinda sad to see people labeling each other over a shot.

Paul, they are centered fascists you say?

Even more dangerous than Corona for many in the long run will be the intolerance and division caused by such knee jerk general reactions.

I am not pro or anti anything.

I have friends and family who want the shot, and others who don’t, and others who dont feel endangered and want to wait.

I won’t judge them based on that

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The teams that developed the vax should be nominated for the Nobel prize, they are saving thousands of lives and the booster will save thousands more

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Burning Bush and The Resident

Interesting how you both form conclusions by “walking past health centers” and observing who’s in line.

Would that be more of an indicator of the demograph that lives in that area, has time during that part of the day, or even another reason?

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People are displeased when Japan govt is planning ahead lol

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Personally, I'll opt out of that never end cat and mouse game.

Your choice of course.

But I'm glad you tried the game first before you said no.

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@thepersoniamnow: Absolutely! Monday afternoon (national holiday), next to Mark City in Shibuya - I would totally expect that demographic. I was just pointing out that at that particular pop up there was no shortage of demand. I'm sure it would have been mainly 30-35 year old Otakus had I passed by Akihabara.

Burning Bush just çomes up with 'evidence suggests' - mine was a casual observation.

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Just looked at Japan vaccination graph on Reuters site.

Rate is so steady graph's almost a straight incline from June 5.

Last week's daily average 1167k

https://graphics.reuters.com/world-coronavirus-tracker-and-maps/countries-and-territories/japan/

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First finish vaccinating all the people that have not yet received any dose, once everybody has been protected then boosters can be used for vulnerable people. At this point there is no indication that boosters bring any benefit for medical personnel, even reduced antibody levels are protective enough.

I think that's the plan.

Iirk, they want all who want the jab vaccinated by end of Nov.

So sched ok, hope they can implement

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So does this mean that by 2023, they'll have likely given out 5 total jabs (1+boosters) and that if you have never been jabbed, you'll still only need 2?

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The teams that developed the vax should be nominated for the Nobel prize, they are saving thousands of lives and the booster will save thousands more

I agree, but they developed a vax for something that was likely created by scientific research so it would be like the research community giving themselves a pat on the back.

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Would that be the same vaccines that don't prevent infection or transmission, or have they developed one that works?

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Would that be the same vaccines that don't prevent infection or transmission, or have they developed one that works?

Yes

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For the ones who made it into a school in their childhood….lol Everyone can easily calculate, or better let’s say estimate, when the next vaccine booster shot is due. It’s the same simple formula as being taught or used for accumulating interest rates, but here with a decreasing exponent. Maximum vaccine efficacy in percent ^ (months reached since * decreasing rate). (Hint: If it is first decreasing quickly, then slowly, but never reaches 0, you have probably produced the right graph.)

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Sven Asai

Sorry ur just too intelligent for us dude. Thanks for trying to simplify it though.

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I for one am thankful that somebody told us that vaccine effectiveness declines at a uniform predictable rate

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The teams that developed the vax should be nominated for the Nobel prize, they are saving thousands of lives and the booster will save thousands more

I agree, but they developed a vax for something that was likely created by scientific research so it would be like the research community giving themselves a pat on the back.

Well, a Nobel prize would not be given to "Science", they are awarded to specific people or groups. These vaccines have save lives, but the people behind them have also caused many lives to be lost through blocking early treatments.

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The FDA voted 16-2 that booster shots ARE NOT NEEDED FOR THE VAST MAJORITY OF CITIZENS.

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Would that be the same vaccines that don't prevent infection or transmission, or have they developed one that works?

No, it would be the vaccine that is highly effective at preventing serious symptoms, hospitalization, and death. So, yeah, one that works.

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I haven't seen the Japanese data but the FDA recently released an 8-hour long video which also covers their latest data on boosters, very interesting stuff if you haven't seen it

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WFph7-6t34M

Yes, interesting stuff!

I skimmed very quickly through the first 5 hours (not so interesting). At the 5 hour mark it starts getting a little interesting, the best part starts around the 6 hour mark where they discuss and then each member gives their final opinion/decision. Basically, most opposed it because there was a great scarcity of safety data.

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My thinking about the third dose of the vaccine.

Given that the vaccine was placed on the market during the trial period, there is a high probability that the vaccines do not contain 100% of the dose. It is logical that the manufacturers may be aware that before the completion of the third phase of testing, there could be more serious side effects, which we will find out over time.

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@Mirchy

So they prefer having a less effective vaccine (that requires boosters) than a dangerous one.

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@Raw Beer

That's right. Plus profit.

Two birds with one stone.

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