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ANA Boeing 737-800 domestic flight turns back due to cockpit window crack

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Another incident, this one in Japan at least not MCAS system

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/boeing-charged-737-max-fraud-conspiracy-and-agrees-pay-over-25-billion

This month, suddenly it's emergency door just fall apart.

https://www.tiktok.com/@dailymail/video/7320928262723652910?lang=en

https://www.axios.com/2024/01/12/alaska-airlines-flight-1282-boeing-lawsuit

Make America great again get yourself Made in USA products.

America First, not safety first.

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Two cracks in two days are two too many! I am not writing a tongue twister!

Not only ANA but ALL airlines had better check their windows!!

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This was a precautionary landing rather than an emergency landing. As the story says, one layer of the four cracked. There has never been a case where an entire window has imploded. Cockpit windows are heated and it’s usually due to a bad heating element. And this happens to Airbus planes as well.

12 ( +15 / -3 )

Boeing vs Airbus narrative makes ALL flights less safe.

It's amazing how supposedly equipped adults resist employing their brain.

The FAA, and counterparts throughout the world (except may be China and Brazil) apply the same rules when certifying planes, which means engineering is pretty much standard across the board.

The 737 (not Max) has been around for decades, cracked windows is a maintenance or inspection issue, not a maker defect.

7 ( +11 / -4 )

This is a 30 year old aircraft design as I understand it and no longer in production. Anyone thinking this is a design flaw needs their head examined.

13 ( +16 / -3 )

Boeing ATN Put's must be becoming pretty expensive this weekend.

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Make America great again get yourself Made in USA products.

America First, not safety first.

Made in America? Yes, 20+ years ago.

Inspected and maintained in Japan? Yes, for at least the last several years

Why was the crack not found by ground maintenance crews before the flight? Could be that particular part is not on the preflight inspection list or it is and was skipped

Before pointing biased fingers at the manufacturer, maybe do a little homework.

Remember the Takata airbag issue a few years ago? People getting killed by a Japanese made product that's sole purpose was to save lives. Hmmm...

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The effort to return instead of continuing on seems like a bit of an overkill seeing it probably took longer to return than just continue on. A crack on the outer glass doesn’t hinder safety. Seems like headlines to require an emergency to return and investigations that are now required. Not sure why everyone blames the company who built the plane for maintenance issues. I believe each airline is required to do their own maintenance and if the airline wants to exceed the manufacturer maintenance standards for safety that will be the airlines choice. Everyone knows budget airlines do the minimum and we expect premium to be better.

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Sensationalized article. Completely unrelated event to door issue on the 787. The window is over a cm thick and only a few layer appeared to crack. Not a design or negligence issue...parts wear out and fail at some point. Any given day there are hundreds of precautionary landings around the world

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Random

There has never been a case where an entire window has imploded

Even if there was one, it would blow out rather than in, due to the higher pressure inside the plane. Not really an "implosion".

1 ( +4 / -3 )

Are 737 planes safe? A friend told me he does not like taking 737s.

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MC

Sensationalized article. Completely unrelated event to door issue on the 787. 

What door issue on a 787?

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There has never been a case where an entire window has imploded. 

Actually there was a non fatal case : BA5390 in 1990. The pilot was sucked out of the cockpit. Copilot landed the plane safely. Pilot resumed his career until retirement.

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リッチ

The effort to return instead of continuing on seems like a bit of an overkill seeing it probably took longer to return than just continue on. A crack on the outer glass doesn’t hinder safety.

Seriously? Of course it does. At least enough to warrant landing the plane and removing from service for further inspection and repair. This wasn't a loose hinge on an overhead bin door. Any visible damage to any part of an airliner's structural integrity, no matter how small deserves immediate attention.

A prime example of the old adage, "Better safe than sorry".

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Standard wear and tear. The windows have four layers for a reason. If anything, returning was excessive caution prompted by the Max issues. This happens on planes. It only made the news because of the Boeing debacle.

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@RockingChair, that was not from a cracked windshield, it was from an improperly installed windscreen panel that separated from its frame. Completely different situation.

@garypen, there’s a speed and altitude restriction with a cracked windshield. At a lower altitude and a 250 knot wind on the nose, do you think the window is going to blow out. You might be right, but when I was faced with this situation, I was concerned with it blowing into my face.

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The 737 (not Max) has been around for decades, cracked windows is a maintenance or inspection issue, not a maker defect.

Perhaps, but spare parts are likely made by nowadays Boeing or approved by them. So it might turn out to be another “loose screw” for Boeing.

-6 ( +1 / -7 )

Why a picture of ANA and not Boeing? It is a Boeing product. Typical

-2 ( +2 / -4 )

It happens occasionally and no you can’t tell when it’s going to happen. I work for Qantas Engineering and can show you many photos.

4 ( +4 / -0 )

Unlikely this would have even made the news if it wasn’t for the current ongoing problems the the newer 737 variant.

5 ( +7 / -2 )

Unfortunately, The 737 Max is an embarrassment for Boeing.

-6 ( +0 / -6 )

Unfortunately, The 737 Max is an embarrassment for Boeing.

Off topic.

4 ( +4 / -0 )

My 25-year old car has a small crack in the windshield. Should I blame the manufacturer? Return it to my garage and stop driving until it's replaced?

3 ( +3 / -0 )

Actually there was a non fatal case : BA5390 in 1990. The pilot was sucked out of the cockpit. Copilot landed the plane safely. Pilot resumed his career until retirement.

True but the windshield was incorrectly installed

0 ( +1 / -1 )

I bet you any money this is the news outlets hyperbolling this. We need to prepare for the next journalist to troll the aircraft world news to blow it up. Then he'll move on to electric cars or something shiny for his next article. It might be over though.We had the crash, then the door hatch cover and now this.So, let see.

0 ( +0 / -0 )

Not a good times for Boeing..

-2 ( +0 / -2 )

Not a good times for Boeing..

At the same time, very good for Boeing investors. The records associated with lawsuits, CEO's attitude etc says Boeing is almost there in terms of restoring its past reputation for excellence. Calhoun is a breath of fresh air.

On the other hand it would not surprise me in the least if Spirit Aero will be facing FAA scrutiny and personnel having to answer for much of Boeing's pain.

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The 737 (not Max) has been around for decades, cracked windows is a maintenance or inspection issue, not a maker defect.

If so, then why?

ANA charges way over competing airlines for the same product ie flights.

So expensive that I have only flown them 5/6 times.

Sirely ANA hands money for newer planes and/or better preventative maintenance?

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