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Japan boosts medical system to admit 37,000 COVID patients to hospitals

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The headline should read:

"Japan boosts medieval medical system to admit 37,000 COVID patients to hospitals..."

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there ain't no need for this. with 80% vaccination rate, there won't be another surge from the corona virus.

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And the number of infected people hospitalized nationwide with severe COVID-19 symptoms was reported to be 28 as of yesterday. I guess we can admit 36,972 more if necessary.

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nakanoguy01 07:29 am JST

there ain't no need for this. with 80% vaccination rate, there won't be another surge from the corona virus.

I’d bet a hefty amount of yen that you’re wrong on this one!

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What's going to happen when Japan opens up again to tourism? With so many extra people coming in and Covid still about, some visitors are going to get sick and will need treatment. I've read some pretty negative stories about how the Japanese medical system isn't exactly easy for foreigners to negotiate - how's it going to manage?

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Good.

Hoping it won't be needed though

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nakanoguy01 07:29 am JST

there ain't no need for this. with 80% vaccination rate, there won't be another surge from the corona virus.

Delta and omicron mean that there is absolutely no chance that we get to herd immunity. The virus is endemic and will remain so for the foreseeable future.

Fortunately, the effects in vaccinated people seem to be mild.

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Always a decade late.

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Better late than never....

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They also 'boasted' about 97,000 testing capacity in tokyo but at the peak (olympics) used 25,000 of it and these days about 1,000. Then we see that covid is basically non-existant across Japan .. what's the secret sauce? Korea has record cases so if you say it's in the genes or BPR vaccine, it wasn't only Japan that has those unique traits. Sure is a mystery....

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They also 'boasted' about 97,000 testing capacity in tokyo but at the peak (olympics) used 25,000

So you want the entire capacity utilized?

Well I'm hoping the actual bed capacity that would be utilized would be zero

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GenHXZ

Good point!

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any news abt actual cure of virus?

why all time talk just abt experimental vaccines with unknown side effects?

what are gov steps abt to educate people to boost /build up body immunity system to lessen burden on outdated and worn japanese hospitals system?

i thought prevention s always better,more natural and cheaper as well than just so called vaccination with some experimental preparates?

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any news abt actual cure of virus?

Yes, Pfizer and Merck have put out two pills that are performing well after someone has caught the virus.

why all time talk just abt experimental vaccines with unknown side effects?

I don't know, you guys keep talking about this fantasy you've made up in your head. Stop talking about it, and your conspiracy theory will just disappear.

what are gov steps abt to educate people to boost /build up body immunity system to lessen burden on outdated and worn japanese hospitals system?

That's a long-term plan. It's a good one, but it's not going to help with the current pandemic.

i thought prevention s always better

The time for prevention was before the pandemic hit. We aren't in prevention mode, we're in triage mode.

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Good, good Japan!

Preparation is key. Kishida is changing Japan to be the boss again.

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Health minister Shigeyuki Goto told a press conference that the government has met its target for securing more hospital beds officially decided in November, after many people were forced to recuperate at home during this summer's fifth wave of infections.

The problem with forcing people to recuperate at home during this summer's fifth wave of infections was that they were not given any effective early treatments. Many safe and effective early treatments should have been provided at very low cost. This would have freed many hospital beds.

any news abt actual cure of virus?

Yes, Pfizer and Merck have put out two pills that are performing well after someone has caught the virus.

Last week, the FDA had an advisory committee meeting to discuss Merck's new drug. Anyone can watch the 9hr video. I watched most of it, and that drug is nowhere as promising as the press releases made it sound....

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The problem with forcing people to recuperate at home during this summer's fifth wave of infections was that they were not given any effective early treatments. Many safe and effective early treatments should have been provided at very low cost. This would have freed many hospital beds.

The problem is that those "effective early treatments" you like to push so much are not effective at all, which is why they are not given, to ask for a solution that do not solve anything is useless. The scientific consensus is that both ivermectin and HCQ (the drugs that you keep pushing) do not help patients no matter how or when they are used. The few big studies that apparently indicated so ended up being retracted for data manipulation or fabrication. Showing false data is much worse than showing low efficacy data, but for some reason you have no problem with that.

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Last week, the FDA had an advisory committee meeting to discuss Merck's new drug. Anyone can watch the 9hr video. I watched most of it, and that drug is nowhere as promising as the press releases made it sound....

Really? The scientist I know who watched it said it looked very promising.

I suspect you misinterpreted what they were saying.

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Good thing as of today, there are exactly 28 people in serious condition in the entire country

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StrangerlandToday 11:11 am JST

any news abt actual cure of virus?

Yes, Pfizer and Merck have put out two pills that are performing well after someone has caught the virus.---Maybe in your fantasy man?

why all time talk just abt experimental vaccines with unknown side effects?

I don't know, you guys keep talking about this fantasy you've made up in your head. Stop talking about it, and your conspiracy theory will just disappear.----Possibly you live in your parallel world or maybe never heard abt it.Say in EU everyone who wants get vaccine must sign doc saying that maker of vaccine does not take any responsibility for side effects and that vaccine is "experimental" one.

what are gov steps abt to educate people to boost /build up body immunity system to lessen burden on outdated and worn japanese hospitals system?

That's a long-term plan. It's a good one, but it's not going to help with the current pandemic.--- wrong again.sure can help a lot especially when hospital system is archaic actionless and outdated/as in Japan/

i thought prevention s always better

The time for prevention was before the pandemic hit. We aren't in prevention mode, we're in triage mode.---again wrong.there is never too late to build body immunity.

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again wrong.there is never too late to build body immunity.

Yes, that's right.

So what do you recommend that the elderly take or do to build up their immunity?

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Looking at the headline it seems they're expecting more to happen sooner or later.

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Yes, Pfizer and Merck have put out two pills that are performing well after someone has caught the virus.---Maybe in your fantasy man?

No:

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/07/science/merck-pfizer-covid-pill-treatment.html

Possibly you live in your parallel world or maybe never heard abt it.Say in EU everyone who wants get vaccine must sign doc saying that maker of vaccine does not take any responsibility for side effects and that vaccine is "experimental" one.

That's a very interesting conspiracy on which you have a theory.

there is never too late to build body immunity.

Of course not. But as a method of ending the pandemic, this one is not realistic. Too many people are still too unhealthy, and often don't have the knowledge required to change their lifestyles to be healthier. It's something I agree fully that governments should make a strong effort to promote in their people moving forward. But you were speaking of prevention, and that will be a method of preventing the next pandemic, this one is already here, and it's too late to prevent.

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Just in time for the end of the pandemic......

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there is never too late to build body immunity.

Of course not. But as a method of ending the pandemic, this one is not realistic.

Changing one's habits can within a few days greatly improve your chances.

Too many people are still too unhealthy, and often don't have the knowledge required to change their lifestyles to be healthier.

I think that was Eastman's point. They go on and on and on telling us about vaccines as THE solution, while ignoring all the simple measures people can adopt to greatly improve their chances.

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Changing one's habits can within a few days greatly improve your chances.

For example, getting vaccinated.

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there ain't no need for this. with 80% vaccination rate, there won't be another surge from the corona virus.

Thats like saying ‘I don’t need to know the number for the fire department. My house has a sprinkler so it won’t burn down’.

How about just having both rather than maybe not enough?

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while ignoring all the simple measures people can adopt to greatly improve their chances.

What simple measures would you recommend for the elderly?

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Wouldn’t an earlier vaccine boosting not even make more sense, so that all those thousands of normal or intensive care hospital beds will neither be needed / reserved nor really filled?

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Changing one's habits can within a few days greatly improve your chances.

I don't disagree, but it would take more than changing one's habits to end this pandemic, it would require changing nearly everyone's habits. And remember, if there is anything people don't like to do, it's be told what to do. Look at how much the world freaked out about the suggestion that a piece of cloth be put over one's mouth - do you really think that any messaging could be enough to convince a large enough portion of the world's population to suddenly become so healthy that it could end the pandemic?

I think that's a pipe dream mate. Good health = good idea. But insofar as a means of ending this pandemic, as I said:

this one is not realistic

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Wouldn’t an earlier vaccine boosting not even make more sense, so that all those thousands of normal or intensive care hospital beds will neither be needed / reserved nor really filled?

There are X numbers of vaccines being produced, with Y number of people in the world, and the immunity of the vaccinated dropping at Z rate. It's a balancing game mate. Giving them out sooner here, may take them away from there.

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Wouldn’t an earlier vaccine boosting not even make more sense, so that all those thousands of normal or intensive care hospital beds will neither be needed / reserved nor really filled?

They did announce that theyll bring forward booster shots wherever possible.

What makes even more sense is that theyre bringing forward the boosters shots and expanding bed capacity

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