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Beijing will continue to take "all necessary means" to protect its rights and interests.

Well Beijing, you don't have any rights and interests in that area, considering the fact that you've stolen it!

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Japan should abandon completely such a small minded and childish behaviour. 16 jets to scare China ? Imperial Japanese Army did more than 1600 over China, bombed million people, destroyed million homes, and what was the end result ? To threat China with war machine only results wars, history doesn't lie.

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A couple of bombers.

Small beer. No more or less than China has done in recent times.

The only result is 3 countries, China, America and Japan wasting money in what are exorbitant per costs to fly bombers and jets around.

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"per cost = "per hour costs"

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Akie.

Who is to blame for Japan's re-militarization. Deliberately breaching the ban on warfare by breaking the constitutional thread. The answer is China. That it does not respect the territorial limits of its neighbouring countries. Threatening to take them by force if necessary. You accuse Japan of bullying in the past, but here the only bully in the present is China.

And these manoeuvres are consequences of that country.

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dougthehead13, remilitarization for what ? For wars ? Japan and Abe hype rule based world, look what Abe is doing : destroy Japanese constitution, unilaterally. Blame China for everything ? China didn't "nationalize" the disputed Islands, as Japan did o Senkakus; China didn't separate Okinawa, as Japan did to Taiwan; China didn't recognize all disputed Islands Japan have with other nations as other nations territories, as Japan did to China. If Japan wants a war, then how many Japanese does Japan have for it ? Do some calculations before you start a war: you have to budget it wisely.

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Akie always trying to say Japan is bad and wants war and bases it all on past people and past government of Japan that is no more. Move forward in time. Japan threatens nobody today. China threatens Taiwan, Japan and anyone else it gets angry with.

China has no respect for any nation, it does not even respect the rights of individuals within China to disagree with the Communist party.

The whole world can see this and the whole world has no trust in the ruling Communist Government of China. It can smile and it can lend money (at high interest rates) for its belt road. Nobody is fooled by China. China does business with all countries but has no true friends. It can blame only itself for that fact.

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Peter14, you have wronged Akie. I always and consistently promote the 3000 years friendship between Japan and China to an eternity. Japan did bad thing and you have to admit it. The good thing is that China pardoned Japan, but Japan can't constantly annoy China and invite troubles and resentments from 1.5 billion Chinese people. That is not nice, nor wise. If you believe China hs problems, you should be happy because you don't love Chinese, and that is OK, no shame for being inhuman, from your point of views. Let China deal with its own problems, and let Japan catch China if she still can.

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If japan sailing and flying in its own territory angers China it confirms my point. You always assert Japan is challenging China, is angering China when they do nothing they don't have the right to do. Japan is not in any race with China so has nothing to catch.

Akie said If Japan wants a war, then how many Japanese does Japan have for it ? Do some calculations before you start a war: you have to budget it wisely.

Why would you assume Japan wants war with China? Has it said it does? No. But you keep making assumptions that it does. You are wrong. China has more people, china has a larger economy and a very large Military. We all know this but you feel you must continually point out the obvious. Like bully that wants to keep others subservient. Sorry but the world will never bow to China. If you expect it to you will continue to be disappointed. My Chinese friends are great people, with big hearts and friendly nature. I love them, they are great. They dont think they are better than anyone else and they live in a democracy. The only thing I dislike about China is the Communist party. The billion other Chinese are fine.

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Peter14, you contradict yourself again, and that isn't smart. You said you like Chinese, not communist party. But do you know Chinese people love their party ? Chinese govt is the highest rated govt on the planet, with more than 95% rating, out of 1.5 billion people ? The happiest nation on the earth ? The rapidly developing society ? The longest civilization ?

I didn't assume anything, it all reported publicly that Japan is abandoning peace constitution, synthesize diamond to contain China, even in this article, the unintelligent Onodera told a press conference "Japan's will and high ability to contribute to the stabilization of the region". War machines and bad attitude can't contribute to stabilization, only peace constitution can.

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LOL Akie once again being the comedian. Most Chinese dont like the Chinese Communist party as it stifles freedom. They can not voice such thoughts or they disappear for "reeducation". Your rating is worthless without freedom of speech and thought. I believe the longest living culture would come from Africa and Australian Aborigines who have populated Australia for over 40,000 years.

Japan has the right to modify its own constitution and if you equate that to it wanting war then the error is yours. Since when do synthesized Diamonds contain anyone? China has said its military buildup in the South China sea is to stabilize it. Japan says its defense forces contribute to stabilize the East China sea. If you think only China's military is a stabilizing force you are yet again incorrect. Once again its don't do as China does but do as China says? You talk like a hypocrite.

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No doubt Japan has the right to change its own constitution, but for the peace one, majorities are against it. Are you with the majorities, or not ?

China is the stabilization forces, no doubt about it. China develops the capability is for defense purpose. China's territory is still occupied by aggressors, or separated from mainland, that has to be ended, as granted by and supported in UN charters.

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I suggest you re read my posts more carefully. Your interpretation is off.

I agree with any change to Japans constitution made by the Japanese themselves. China is the destabilizing force. The issues in the South China seas were peaceful until China began its Island building and militarization there. There are no aggressors in control of Chinese territory. China has imagined enemies to justify its military expansions. Nobody has threatened China since the end of WWII, but China must imagine them to justify its actions.

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Now, the Chinese claim of South China Sea is very well documented in international publications, recognized by Vietnam. But the same Vietnam is occupying not only one, not even two, but more than 30 Islands and features claimed by China. South China Sea is peaceful since the end of WW2, but PH provoked a conflict in 2012, with Aquino sending a warship to a Chinese shoal, discovered by Chinese and documented in Mandarin 2000 years ago.

As for the artificial Islands, it is on Chinese territory, built by Chinese, using Chinese money, violate no Chinese laws, in China's sea. There is nothing wrong. China can build anything there, walmart, hospitals, Peking duck restaurants, and toilets for militarily personal usage. No problems, at all.

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Akie.

You are mixing things up:

Today's Japan and its citizens don't want any war. Neither to provoke it nor to participate. And if they could, they would respect the pacifist clause at all costs.

The Senkaku Islands belong to Japan according to the UN. Long before nationalization.

The nationalization you mention was only the purchase of islands by the government from private hands. It was only a change of ownership in legal terms. Within Japanese territory. We can call it a commercial transaction as in any country that respects international trade rules. Because the Senkaku Islands are in Japanese territory and jurisdictional waters. I repeat what the UN says.

Taiwan is a democracy. And unfortunately communist mainland China is preparing its army to take it by force. All indications point to this. If this were to happen, not only would the war be very close to Japan. It would negatively affect the whole of Japan because it would drag the country into an unconstitutional but at the same time necessary war. Which is also involuntary for the Japanese people. Not counting the disappearance of China's last totally democratic stronghold.

For Abe to stop being right. China should lower the tension first and there would no longer be any excuse for disobeying the pacifist clause. There would no longer be any kind of debate or any reason to change Article 9.

Above all I wish peace for all peoples. But unfortunately China with its reckless actions is changing the balance of stability since the 2nd world war.

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"As for the artificial Islands, it is on Chinese territory, built by Chinese, using Chinese money, violate no Chinese laws, in China's sea. There is nothing wrong. China can build anything there, walmart, hospitals, Peking duck restaurants, and toilets for militarily personal usage. No problems, at all."

In this case so does Japan; and every other country out there.

Therefore Japan should start building in the Senkakus; tomorrow preferably.

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The world says China owns nothing in the South China sea so China attempts to occupy International waters. Clearly one day, China will begin a war but claim it is the victim. I believe Nazi Germany tried that in the last century and what happens to those who take on the world? They lose. Badly.

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I'd like to make an observation based on reading AKIE's and PETER14's discussion.

Akie, your strong, unrelenting and defiant defense of China 'anything' makes one feel you are either working for them..?, or working with them in some official/unofficial capacity.?, or just simply someone who has been thoroughly indoctrinated by communist China's well-oiled and heavy-handed propaganda machine..

Either way, very one-sided and unbalanced.

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Akie,

Say what you like; the truth is:

1) Taiwan is NOT a part of China;

2) Nine Dash Line is Not recognised by anybody/anyone, barring China. Of course!

3) China does NOT own the South China Sea;

4) The "islands" are not recognised by anybody/anyone; barring China. Of course!!!

5) Japan and ALL the rest of the world CAN and WILL continue to treat the area as international waters; anyone. anybody can pass through.

6) China is just wasting money building something that will not be recognised, moreover, are easy to defeat/destroy in case of conflict.

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Peeping_Tom,

You have failed in your entry test. Your application for the elementary school is rejected.

Akie,

Honorary principal,

IQlow, Triple X Prefecture

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Read and learn:

http://uk.businessinsider.com/no-nine-dash-line-in-the-south-china-sea-2016-7

“In a highly anticipated ruling, a Hague-based international tribunal found that Beijing's so-called nine-dash line of its territorial claims in the South China Sea had no legal basis.”

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"The Convention, however, does not address the sovereignty of States over land territory. Accordingly, this Tribunal has not been asked to, and does not purport to, make any ruling as to which State enjoys sovereignty over any land territory in the South China Sea, in particular with respect to the disputes concerning sovereignty over the Spratly Islands or Scarborough Shoal. None of the Tribunal’s decisions in this Award are dependent on a finding of sovereignty, nor should anything in this Award be understood to imply a view with respect to questions of land sovereignty"

"Similarly, although the Convention does contain provisions concerning the delimitation of maritime boundaries, China made a declaration in 2006 to exclude maritime boundary delimitation from its acceptance of compulsory dispute settlement, something the Convention expressly permits for maritime boundaries and certain other matters. Accordingly, the Tribunal has not been asked to, and does not purport to, delimit any maritime boundary between the Parties or involving any other State bordering on the South China Sea. "

-- From The South China Sea Arbitration Award of 12 July 2016

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And????

What's the point in your quotes?

I will explain it, as you clearly don't understand it (or pretend not to).

All the Tribunal said is this:

We, (the tribunal) will not make rulings on sovereignty, in this instance, BECAUSE THAT WAS NOT THE ISSUE/QUESTION PUT BEFORE THIS TRIBUNAL.

Sovereignty was not the issue.

The Tribunal did not address sovereignty because it was not asked to; however, it stated clearly that China did not have a leg to stand on in any claim for its 9 dash line "bull".

Better ask someone who knows how to interpret before posting Dictum please. It's way beyond your school's capacity, I'm afraid.

Nice attempt at conflating China's non acceptance withe tribunal's actual ruling though.

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Peeping_Tom, I appreciate your non-professional explanation, match non-professional ruling by the non-professional court. By the way, territorial claim is sovereignty issue, 9-dash line claim is sovereignty issue. Another by the way, no matter what the ruling is void, doesn't apply to China. Last by the way, what is the legal basis for Australia being claimed by invaders ?

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Akie,

Say what you like; the truth is:

1) Taiwan is NOT a part of China;

2) Nine Dash Line is Not recognised by anybody/anyone, barring China. Of course!

3) China does NOT own the South China Sea;

4) The "islands" are not recognised by anybody/anyone; barring China. Of course!!!

5) Japan and ALL the rest of the world CAN and WILL continue to treat the area as international waters; anyone. anybody can pass through.

6) China is just wasting money building something that will not be recognised, moreover, are easy to defeat/destroy in case of conflict.

True, apart from point 6. Don't think they are so easy to destroy now.

Peeping_Tom,

You have failed in your entry test. Your application for the elementary school is rejected.

Akie,

Honorary principal,

IQlow, Triple X Prefecture

lol, at least you're having have fun with it.

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"I appreciate your non-professional explanation"

That was a professional advise; however, you'll get no more as this is just wasting time.

"By the way, territorial claim is sovereignty issue, 9-dash line claim is sovereignty issue. Another by the way, no matter what the ruling is void, doesn't apply to China"

Your're really confused, as for terms, jurisdiction, applications and tribunal awards; therefore that will be the end of it.

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