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Japan to deport 14 detained Chinese activists

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Are the South Koreans and the Chinese huddling secretly now, to see how they can play mind games with Tokyo??

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Rewarding bad behavior might not be a good thing most of the time.

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Throwing them in jail, while perhaps emotionally satisfying, would be a diplomatic disaster. Deport them, the sooner the better.

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Fingerprint them, photograph them, ban them from entering Japan for x number of years and then send them back. Simple and clean.

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Considering involves choices, what are they other choices? Stop with the headlines and trying to securing your job and deport them because that is the the only option.

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Japan would deport these protesters soon because whatever they did is not felony at all. This is just another illegal entry to Japan. Okinawa police would treat them as illegal immigrants. It seems that Japan Coast Guard let them land on the island intentionally because Japan wants to prove that the island is Japan's territory.

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Unfortunately these guys will probably only be deported. The appropriate action would be:

Fine these guys as anybody else who breaks the law and is jailed is. Confiscate their boat (if not already), this shouldn't get returned. Deport

This from JP perspective sends the right message to China that this our territory, don't F around. That is what other countries do, but I have a feeling Japan will lack the backbone to come through with this.

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Fine them 2 million a piece and send the money to Korea to compensate for the C women.

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Be nice to these guys. Japan controls but not owns the Diaoyu Islands. Diaoyu is Chinese baby, but was robbed by the Japanese in late 1900. The US took it after WWII, and transferred it to Japan, but US has no standing who owns the islands.

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Be nice to these guys. Japan controls but not owns the Diaoyu Islands. Diaoyu is Chinese baby, but was robbed by the Japanese in late 1900. The US took it after WWII, and transferred it to Japan, but US has no standing who owns the islands.

Be nice to people who deliberately go to a zone of dispute in order to fan flames? I would most certainly think not. They have just made talks between the countries even worse.

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Diaoyu is chinese since history so japan cannot charge or imprison them but send them to hongkong by plane, business class of course.

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@tokostyle

Free Tibet and give it back to it's people and maybe, just maybe us independents (foreigners) might listen to China's claims of right versus wrong over these Islands.

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I don't know about who "owns" the islands, but in the news video showing the men getting off the boat, they really looked like a bunch of drunks or Chinese yakuza. They don't look like the type Chinese should be proud to have representing China.

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Japan has a decent claim to the islands, but if they let this slide, another boat will be visiting next week. They need to at least stall, and make the Chinese work a bit to get these people released. Japan could have a lot of paperwork - stuff that needs to be hankoed on consecutive days by offices in various regions. That would be sufficiently annoying, I think.

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Silly season will be over in a week and then all sides can then get back to doing what they do best; the business of doing business.

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@oyatoi: let's hope so!

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Japan may deport 14 Chinese activists

No other choice. Too late this year to hire them to teach the Summer swimming school...

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Haha, they should be released immediately, but wearing clown suits. Because they were acting like clowns!

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Wish the J govt was as decisive as this site is in removing so called problems, with their three antagonists,who shamelessly look to punk Japan at any given time.

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Taiwan on Thursday urged Japan to release the pro-Chinese activists

I am happy to know Taiwan after President Ma YinJeo choose a right decision not siding with Japan! The preceeeding ruling party DPP was pro-Japan and they denial Diayoutai islands belongs to PRC!

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Japan should put these bad guys into jail, they come to your house and say your house belongs to them.Just like they rob the Paracel island and Spratly island and say they belong to them.

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Looking at the US press, the US loves this. This incident makes China look scarry and so other countries of Asia will welcome US power againt China. It is just setting up the stage for WWIII.

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Let them sweat it out in jail for a few weeks.

Beijing demanding their unconditional and immediate release

Double standards. If you were to invade Chinese territory and plant your national flag, you would be shot. Ask the Tibetans.

“The Japanese side should free the activists as soon as possible to reduce tension and maintain regional stability,” said Taiwan’s foreign ministry, as it stressed its claim to the disputed island chain.

Right Mr Taiwan. So if the Chinese decided to land on Taiwan and plant their flag on your island, then you would 'remain calm and ask to reduce the tension and maintain regional stability'..? So the Chinese are allright for Taiwan when it suits their own needs, but not when China threatens their own needs.

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Keeping the Chinese in jail would be a waste of taxpayer's money. Send them home.

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China had earlier on Thursday renewed its call that the detainees be released “immediately and unconditionally.”

I'm disappointed in China here. If China doesn't want it's citizens safety to be compromised while visiting a disputed land controlled by another nation, maybe they should stop their citizens themselves in the first place. Common Sense 101.

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let them stay in jail. they might even like it here if they're allowed to work :)

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Ishihara will get himself assassinated if he doesn't pipe down, the old rightist, racist fart.

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Story updated so earlier comments are now not really valid.

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The enhanced tensions underline the viability and practicality, however temporary, of the US Japan Security Treaty

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Kill them with kindness. The best way to show prudence is to be humble and just. They broke the law, they will be deported. That sounds fair. They will be fingerprinted, categorized and labeled. If they try to enter the country in the future legally, they will be barred to enter. It may take them up to 10 years to appeal re-entry according to Japanese immigration laws. The deportation process will take about 10~20 days and they will be flown home paid by the Chinese. Their trawler will be confiscated until a judge releases it but good luck with that. As for the flags, they were taken into custody for evidence and later they will be destroyed, probably incinerated ASAP.

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Just what kind of mentality has caused Japan to lose its self-restraint and repeatedly challenge China’s staunch determination to protect its territory and sovereignty?” said China’s Communist Party’s mouthpiece, the People’s Daily.

Pretty rich talking about mentality and loss of self-restraint. Coming from a mouthpiece of a country that hasn't shown much to show for in either in dealing with its neighbors.

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There's not really much else they can do. These punks who swam to the islands were just making a political statement, and not causing any trouble besides. They should rightfully be deported, and names taken so they cannot enter Japan by regular means for a certain time period. They made their point, and Japan can easily make it's point by sending them home.

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Japan is picking a fight with just about every county these days...China, Korea, Russia, us. If they would all just gang up on Japan, maybe Japan could learn to start focusing on internal issues such as Fukushima and energy.

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Whose going to pay for the damages to the JCG vessel caused by the activists throwing bricks?

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http://www3.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/20120816_37.html

Japan Coast Guard: ships sustained damage

The activists on the boat also threw concrete blocks at the Coast Guard ships. One of them, a 500-ton patrol boat, has many such blocks scattered on its deck.

Russia, China and South Korean would shoot and kill in a similar situation.

They attacked JCG and should not be simply deported. Huge fine and costs and jail term(suspended).

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I think the Japanese ppl should do some soul-searching so that they could find their inner devils.

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Japan is picking a fight with just about every county these days...China, Korea, Russia, us. If they would all just gang up on Japan, maybe Japan could learn to start focusing on internal issues such as Fukushima and energy.

? Right, so a group of Chinese right-wing actibvists forcefully landed on another nations territory, planted the Chinese flag. and Japan is picking a fight? The Korean president tells the Emperor not to visit Korea unless he makes yet another one of those annual apologies, and Japan is picking a fight? The Russians continue to buzz Japanese airspace and send their president on an election trip to a set of islands stolen after Japan surrendered, and the Japanese are picking a fight?

As for the Japanese picking a fight with the U.S, you have totally lost me there and may I suggest that you study modern world politics. For your misguided information, the U.S ain't gonna take sides with the Chinese or the Russians against Japan, but it's pretty stupid of me to actually engage in this conversation with you.

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Only 7 actually entered Japan illegally. The other 7 were on board the ship. As long as the Chinese Navy does not "protect" them than catch and release will work.

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smithinjapanAug. 16, 2012 - 09:29PM JST

There's not really much else they can do. These punks who swam to the islands were just making a political statement, and not causing any trouble besides. They should rightfully be deported, and names taken so they cannot enter Japan by regular means for a certain time period. They made their point, and Japan can easily make it's point by sending them home.

Technically they could incarcerate them for a decade and then deport them. It's in the law that they can skip the incarceration, so yes, they are just following the law anyway.

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were just making a political statement, and not causing any trouble besides. They should rightfully be deported

Ever considered swimming onto Chinese territory and sticking a Japanese flag on it? Go on, give it a try. And we'll hear from you in about 6 months time, if at all.

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Technically they could incarcerate them for a decade and then deport them. It's in the law that they can skip the incarceration, so yes, they are just following the law anyway.

Japan would not do such a stupid thing because nothing gets better for both countries in the future. It would deport them soon, because what the activists did is just another illegal entry, nothing else. If they hurt coast guards somehow, then maybe different story for them, Japan coast guards caught them and deport them home, it means Japan proves to the world that the isle is Japan's territory.

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Japan gave in to China in 2010 when the drunk Chinese trawler captain rammed the JCG vessel. Twice. From behind. Japan did so as to not to enflame Sino-Japanese relations any further. Did it help? No, look where we are today. These activists should be charged for the damages and then deported. You can't keep giving in to aggressive and belligerent behavior, it simply enboldens them even more. Same as school bullying.

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China and Korea attitudes remind more and more of the darkest hours of Europa. The future is getting darker.

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China vs Japan; China vs US; China vs Philippines; China vs Vietnam; China vs Taiwan; China vs. Russia.. Get the message?

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These island disputes are stupid. International disputes over uninhabited rocks are stupid. Nationalism is stupid. Not a single actor in this entire drama is anything but an opportunist.

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TheXycoAug. 17, 2012 - 12:07AM JST

International disputes over uninhabited rocks are stupid.

They could care less about the islands themselves, it's the gas and minerals in the economic exclusive zone that they want.

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Good, get the matter over with in a hurry and hope the Chinese don't need to whip up any more nationalism for a few weeks before the party congress.

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All this nonsense over islets began when, in an excess of idiocy, the world community created the 200 mile economic zone concept - as if humans needed yet another thing to fight over.

These nations are battling over seabird toilets, for heaven's sake; they all should show a little more self-respect.

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The ownership of those islands have already been resolved decades ago, with China, S.Korea, the U.S. and with international agreement.

What Japan needs to do is to send out their navy and protect their islands using military force. When N.Korea starts launching missiles over S.Korea, Japan should step back and tell the S.Koreans, they can take care of those issues themselves. Don't bend to the ridiculous claims and historical lies of China and S.Korea.

If Japan does it the proper way that I aforementioned, then the responsibility is on them. If China wants those islands, it will have to start a war with Japan and forsake international agreements. This will make China look like an aggressor with little care to the international community. If S.Korea has to take care of their own defense, they won't push the sex slave or island disputes.

History shows that Japan has already made reparations to the S.Korean people for the sex slave issue and island issues as well as territorial issues with China. The Treaty of San Francisco signed by 48 nations on September 8, 1951, at the War Memorial Opera House in San Francisco, California came into enforcement on April 28, 1952.. Japan gave Korea $468 million dollars for the S.Korean government, to distribute funds to all war victims caused by Japanese occupation. China receive over $14 billion dollars.

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If the Chinese people were informed and permitted to speak openly about issues, they would behave more like a democratic government and treat their neighbors differently. That really is the key to dealing successfully with China. The censorship and internet blackout policies of the Chinese leaders from their singular internal belief that their grip on power is insecure. The policies also reveal what the Chinese leaders fear most: facts in the hands of the public, discussion, truth. Rather than Japan focusing so intently on 'tactical' day-to-day issues with China, which is all about gaining or losing narrow advantages on narrow issues, Japan should take a more strategic approach and focus on foreign policy toward China and advocating free speech as the fundamental right of the Chinese people. China's rulers don't fear economic sanctions or any diplomatic or military pressure from outside even half as much as they fear an informed and outspoken Chinese citizens.

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Reality is China lacks real allies. Real strategic alliance or friendship is not a commodity that can be bought and bartered casually. It is based on shared security interests, fortified with similar ideological values and enduring trust. China excels in "transactional diplomacy" romping around the world with its fat checkbook, supporting usually poor, isolated, and decrepit regimes in Africa in return for favorable terms on natural resources or voting against Western sponsored resolutions criticizing China's human rights record. China will remain deprive of dependable strategic allies because of geography, ideology, and policy. In Asia, Russia, India, and Japan do not make easy allies and the conflict with Japan over the island issue will not help China. Asian nations to realize that their best security bet remained the U.S. At the last East Asian Summit in Bali, most of the ASEAN countries spoke up in support of U.S. position on the South China Sea. Which allies in Asia really supports China? Only North Korea?

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The Taiwanese have really disappointed over this episode. They cry to the rest of the world about the threat from China and how we should all look after them and protect Taiwan from mainland China. Then when it suits them, go on a joint mission with China to stick both flags on Japanese territory, followed by a comment from Taiwan telling the Japanese to let the activists free. Double standards.

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These island disputes are stupid. International disputes over uninhabited rocks are stupid. Nationalism is stupid. Not a single actor in this entire drama is anything but an opportunist.

Maybe you should join the negotiating committee of one side or another and see how well that position works.

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@gelendestrasseAUG. 17, 2012 - 01:23AM JST "Good, get the matter over with in a hurry and hope the Chinese don't need to whip up any more nationalism for a few weeks before the party congress."

On the contrary, the Noda cabinet resorted to the island issues around Japan to stir up nationalism and very urgently -- polls showed approval rate of < 20% to the Noda govt that badly needing magics to avoid stepping down in a matter of months !

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the Noda cabinet resorted to the island issues around Japan to stir up nationalism and very urgently

Are you seriously suggesting that Mr Noda persuaded a bunch of Chinese nationalists to invade the Senkakus, and President Lee to visit Takeshima, just to improve his poll ratings? Wow, the man's a genius.

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