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Tokyo District Court dismisses damages suit by same-sex couples

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Same sex marriage is REAL, and it's here to stay, as for the $$ that is up to the courts to decide, Good Luck.

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In India they have something called live-in couples, and recently the Supreme Court equalised all rights between live-in couples (cohabitation) and married couples including LGBTQ live-in couples. This is important because most Hindu marriages aren't registered with government anyway.

In China they have something called the guardianship system, which provides some basic rights to LGBTQ couples.

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A Japanese court on Wednesday dismissed damages sought by same-sex couples who claimed the government's ban on same-sex marriage is unconstitutional.

This is the legally correct outcome.

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I am very tired of people meddling in our private lives. Let us be, we harm no one. Sad I couldn't marry in Japan would I wish to. Denying a right is akin to violating it.

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If you want justice, Japan is not the place for you. That much is clear, must maintain out dated tradition at all cost.

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This is the legally correct outcome.

While Japan is completely outdated in its practices, moving at its normal pace of been 20+ years behind other countries, this would appear to be a correct reading of the law.

Japan is not a common law country and therefore there is less room for judgement. The relevant law says that marriage is between two sexes and that allows the judges very little room for providing another opinion.

But Japan is also disgracefully slow at updating its laws when they are clearly archaic and conservative forces like to hide their bigotry behind outdated laws.

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Just very sad

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What's the problem, Japan?

Mariage IS Mariage.

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privileges resulting from matrimony, including inheritance rights, tax benefits and joint custody of children, are only granted to heterosexual couples.

Seems incorrect, as long as you're married and are of opposite sex, you should enjoy privileges of married couples

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Headline: Tokyo District Court dismisses damages suit by same-sex couples

Of course they did. Now, move on.

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Why leave Japan if you wish to be part of it, STAY & CHANGE IT.

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Why is the banner in English? Which population are they appealing to?

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Gays should be allowed to be as miserable as the rest of us married couples!

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Yotomaya

i am simply pointing out that nobody is forced to stay in japan . There are planes leaving everyday. Nobody, not even Japanese citizens, are forced to live here. If you live here, you abide by the laws of the land. How is that hate speech. It is simple fact.

a fantastic example of the woke left trying to use the law as they like, even when it is irrelevant!!!

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Daninthepan

advocating something is not the same as breaking the law, is it ? You need to learn to follow an argument.

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Although the Sapporo District Court said in March 2021 that the government's failure to recognize marriage was unconstitutional, the Osaka District Court ruled in June this year that banning same-sex marriage did not violate the Constitution.

While Japanese officialdom would give Kafka a run for his money, contradictory, illogical, obtuse rulings are the playbook of every government to evade the responsibility of adhering to the piece of paper they call the "Constitution", especially when it involves monetary compensation (can't waste the taxpayers' hard-earned money, can they?).

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In India they have something called live-in couples, and recently the Supreme Court equalised all rights between live-in couples (cohabitation) and married couples including LGBTQ live-in couples. This is important because most Hindu marriages aren't registered with government anyway.

In China they have something called the guardianship system, which provides some basic rights to LGBTQ couples.

This is the answer essentially. You set up a parallel system of civil partnerships that have the same protections as marriage, but aren't called marriages. It's how gay marriage was originally recognized in the UK as well.

Just about the only advanced country with a robust birthrate, France, sees most of its kids born outside of marriage. Recognizing other kinds of relationships, not just gay but also common-law straight, might help the Japanese birthrate as well, something politicians are constantly talking about as a harbinger of doom.

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Just remove all tax and inheritance advantages for being married. That way there would be no discrimination on who you live with and no need to get married.

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Gays should be allowed to be as miserable as the rest of us married couples!

Unfortunately for you to speak for all married couples as you can't possibly know them all.

No surprise your miserable !

Iam happily married thankyou very much.

Please Don't assume all married couples are miserable.

Life is to short to be miserable.

Good luck to you.

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No one is denying anyone's rights. men can't marry men, and women can't marry women. Japan is one of the few advanced countries still to recognise this fact. However, Japan doesn't stop homosexuals from living their lives together.

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"While it also dismissed damages sought by plaintiffs, the Tokyo District Court pointed out the absence of a legal system to enable homosexuals to constitute a family is in a "state of unconstitutionality" and "is a grave threat and obstacle" to people's humanity."

Soooo.... the ban is not unconstitutional, but the nation is in a state of unconstitutionality and the ban is a grave threat to humanity. Hmmm... trying to have it both ways, as always. The old, "We completely agree with this or that, but shikataganai darn shucks we just can't do anything about it! It's regrettable!"

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" Gays should be allowed to be a miserable as the rest of us married couples "

I'm sorry , I am a gay man, but I found that comment incredibly funny ..lmao !

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While Japan is completely outdated in its practices, moving at its normal pace of been 20+ years behind other countries, this would appear to be a correct reading of the law.

It isn't.

This article isn't in the constitution with the purpose of restricting marriage to heterosexual couples, but to ensure that both sexes have the same standing and rights within marriage.

The article from the constitution's draft by GHQ has more text and explains with detail what they meant:

"The family is the basis of human society and its traditions for good or evil permeate the nation. Hence marriage and the family are protected by law, and it is hereby ordained that they shall rest upon the undisputed legal and social equality of both sexes, upon mutual consent instead of parental coercion, and upon cooperation instead of male domination. Laws contrary to these principles shall be abolished and replaced by others viewing choice of spouse, property rights, inheritance, choice of domicile, divorce and other matters pertaining to marriage and the family from the standpoint of individual dignity and the essential equality of the sexes"

The kind of reading these anti-gay marriage people are doing of the constitution has absolutely nothing to do with the purpose of the article.

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Well, they could incorporate, transfer all their assets to the corporation, and be equal shareholders. This setup would also allow for more than two persons in a relationship, as well as unequal relationships, where one part owns more shares. Should be flexible enough for everyones need.

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Disgraceful. We are in the same field as world human rights abusers like Saudi, Qatar, Vatican…

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All mariage = All mariage.

ANYWHERE!

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My partner and I have been together since junior high in the 1990s, and yet we cannot get any legal recognition of our relationship. If one of us gets sick, the other has no visitation rights. We have wills that make sure one gets the others property should one of us die. But that is it. We would love to be "married" in the traditional sense, like our loving parents who support us.

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As someone posted here before, why don't you consider one adopting the other for the purpose of such really important matters such as visitation and other next of kin rights

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This is totally confusing!

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Thank you, Tokyo District Court, for supporting sanity.

”Marriage For All Japan” already exists. The rights and restrictions of matrimony currently apply to ALL citizens equally. However, what does not exist…and should never exist…is any government claiming the power to ignore the objective reality of what marriage is.

Thankfully, again, despite those with a sexual political agenda attempting to use the courts to deconstruct marriage, eviscerating it of its normative content, marriage still stands in Japan.

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A Japanese court on Wednesday ruled the government's ban on same-sex marriage as constitutional, but at the same time laid further groundwork for more favorable future rulings.

the Tokyo District Court pointed out the absence of a legal system to enable homosexuals to constitute a family is in a "state of unconstitutionality" and "is a grave threat and obstacle" to people's humanity.

I'm confused as to what this means. So it's constitutional, but it's not? The status quo will be maintained even though it's a "grave threat and obstacle" to people's humanity, but try again later "for more favorable future rulings"?

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This is the correct ruling. I suspect the Japanese courts have an eye towards the degeneracy of western countries and are not eager to follow them down this cancerous path.

Stay the course, Japan. Stay the course.

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Like it or not, marriage equality is unstoppable..

We are not judges to prohibit people from being themselves and being free to love each other.

LIVE AND LET LIVE..

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This is the correct ruling. I suspect the Japanese courts have an eye towards the degeneracy of western countries and are not eager to follow them down this cancerous path.

Stay the course, Japan. Stay the course.

Going medieval??.. lol..

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Unfortunately for you to speak for all married couples as you can't possibly know them all.

No surprise your miserable !

Iam happily married thankyou very much.

Please Don't assume all married couples are miserable.

Life is to short to be miserable.

Good luck to you.

Ummm, I think it was said in jest, take it easy.

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samuraivunylNov. 30 06:46 pm JST

Daninthepan

advocating something is not the same as breaking the law, is it ? You need to learn to follow an argument.

I was referring to this post you made in which you openly admitted to breaking the law. Perhaps you need to learn to follow the law?

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I wouldn’t know about ‘ romantic ‘ partners but my word I have met some cracking’ professional’ women on some on them and my wallet is a lot lighter for it. No regrets whatsoever.

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This was such a SMALL part of the whole ruling:

Japan court upholds ban on same-sex marriage but voices rights concern | Reuters

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This is the correct ruling. I suspect the Japanese courts have an eye towards the degeneracy of western countries and are not eager to follow them down this cancerous path.

Stay the course, Japan. Stay the course.

Going medieval??.. lol..

Nope. Just looking at the current situation in North America.

History tells us where this ends up.

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it ends up with a father thrown in jail for insisting his daughter is a girl.

Nah, that's just right-wing hatred signalling. As useless as far-left virtue signalling. Let's not forget, you're the guy who posted to his 400 followers a poll, and decided the people who follow you are an accurate representation of humanity. The kind of mind that would come to that conclusion kill their own credibility when it comes to their other conclusions - like the one above.

Same-sex marriage will result in the same things traditional marriage does. Which is to say everything from complete failure, to complete success.

Anyone who thinks different is just a far-right extremist, with an opinion, and indeed, a world view, that clearly has no credibility. They only see the world through a lens of hatred.

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