Japan criticizes Russian ban on its seafood over release of treated radioactive water

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Japan criticizes Russian ban on its seafood overg release of treated radioactive water

Is 'OVERG' even a word?

After Chernobyl Russia has pretty good idea about what radioactive damage is about.

They are being smart.

Japan Inc could have dug into some mountains and placed the waste deep in the ground in secure barrels,

In light of the big concern @ the environment, it is shocking International Bodies ok'd

this massive contamination of our oceans.

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Japan stopped export used car to Russia

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2023/07/19/national/used-car-export-ban-japan-russia/

but Japan still want Russia to eat products that being produced from tainted water?

LOL.

Japan wants to criticize and blacklist Russia because of Ukraine....

But then gets butthurt when Russia bans Japan's seafood because of the Fukushima radioactive water release.

Paybacks are a b**ch, as they say! What a bunch of muppets!

Japan should ban Russian seafood like it should have done back in Feb. 2022.

Japan is stubborn. Japan has never stated dumping the contaminated water into the water is the only option. They have alternative options but refuse to take them due to costs. In the end the opportunity costs of the seafood industry and environmental effects unknown and outside the scope of IAEA outweigh the costs of alternative routes.

This has NOTHING to do with the release!!! It has to do with Russia kissing up to China!!!!

Give priority to domestic markets if you want your business to survive and prosper in the post-globalization era.

Don't worry! Americans will eat all the radioactive fish you can ship them.

Why is this country doing business with that murdering regime at all?

Japan's economic sanctions on Russia do not apply to seafood exports?

Stupid geopolitics is stupid.

A safe move by Russia, no one should be eating radioactive food from Japan, we certainly don't.

Russia is spreading dirty nuclear weapons and threatening nuclear war. Now they are complaining about discharging what is acceptable, by international standards, small amounts of nuclear waste into the ocean over a long period of time and everyone is ignoring the monster that is threatening the world with nuclear war. I must be missing something here. Our old cars are polluting the environment. Are we supposed to stop breathing if we live in a city?

discharging the water into the sea is unavoidable because the tanks will reach capacity early next year

There is nothing safe about this water, it is a lie! The problem is space.

semperfiToday 06:57 am JST

After Chernobyl Russia has pretty good idea about what radioactive damage is about.

They are being smart.

Then, it's a pity they lied about the Chernobyl accident and tried to hide it from the world. Just like China did, and continues to do, with COVID.

I wouldn't listen to either country's opinion on anything, and certainly wouldn't class them as "smart." Their opposition to the Fukushima treated water release is purely political - nothing else.

Japan is doing this release properly, with full transparency and international monitoring by the IAEA. Russia and China could learn a lot from Japan... but they won't.

zones2surfToday 07:10 am JST

Japan wants to criticize and blacklist Russia because of Ukraine....

And this criticism is entirely justified.

Russia has invaded its neighbor; killed, tortured and raped its people; destroyed its infrastructure; and kidnapped its children.

In contrast, Japan is releasing safe, treated water under international monitoring.

indigoToday 09:17 am JST

There is nothing safe about this water, it is a lie!

The IAEA says otherwise:

https://www.iaea.org/sites/default/files/iaea_comprehensive_alps_report.pdf

Based on its comprehensive assessment, the IAEA has concluded that the approach and activities to the discharge of ALPS treated water taken by Japan are consistent with relevant international safety standards. Furthermore, the IAEA notes the controlled, gradual discharges of the treated water to the sea, as currently planned and assessed by TEPCO, would have a negligible radiological impact on people and the environment.

TaiwanIsNotChinaToday  07:14 am JST

Japan should ban Russian seafood like it should have done back in Feb. 2022.

Japan knows it can't ban Russian seafood imports without shooting itself in the foot. Essentially significant elements of the local industry rely on it - and disproportionately in Hokkaido. Russian imports have soared recently - even as Moscow has turned the screw on the Kyiv nationalists and their fellow travellers.

Research it yourself but here are some examples. Snow crab imports from Russia (zuwaigani) now account for the bulk of the market - something like 80-90%. One of the main reasons is the crash of the domestic catch in that type, which has dived by a similar percentage (due to massive over-fishing). This is particularly acute in Hokkaido - where regional seafood wholesalers would be turning out the lights without Russian imports to distribute - and this is regional, small town-fishing port Hokkaido and would a disaster for local economies already under stress on many fronts. The story is repeated over other fish/seafood types. Saury is another one that fits this template.

And now it is coming into the colder season, crab demand will soar. Those ubiquitous "kani doraku" crab restaurants will be forced to turn off their iconic giant, moving crab billboards. The central government is sensitive to the food production industries, fisheries in general and the regional and Hokkaido economies in particular.

Protecting these will take priority over pro-Zelensky moral posturing or reciprocal sanctions. Hands down.

Exactly - the Moscow has an abundant fisheries industry in the Russian Far East. This is a win-win situation for them. They will be aiming to increase exports to China and elsewhere too.

Japan criticizes Russian ban on its seafood

The Russian government is not stupid enough to believe the Fukushima propaganda. Guaranteed that ban is simply political to demonstrate solidarity with China... and alliance they are pushed in by Western governments.

Russia has been an IAEA member since 1957. China since 1984. Both nations using the Fukushima Release which is monitored by the IAEA and meets it's safety standards as a political weapon.

For it's part, Japan needs to stop importing seadood from Russia.

The plant’s first wastewater release began Aug 24 and ended Sept 11. During that release, TEPCO said it discharged 7,800 tons of treated water from 10 tanks. In the second discharge that began Oct 5, TEPCO plans to release another 7,800 tons of treated water into the Pacific Ocean over 17 days.

Did tepco measured the radionuclide contents of the second batch of wastewater before dilution like they did with the first batch?

It was only the first batch that was tested under iaea supervision

As far as I know

Oh my dog, not again. Tritium is all around us, in the atmosphere, it falls in rain water, it is in ALL oceans, but the levels of it are so low one has to use special measurement devices to detect it. High levels of it are dangerous but no one is exposed to these levels.

Japan should publish info on fish exports to friendly countries to show the world their confidence on Japanese seafood.

Surely the friendly countries have increased their demand because prices must have dropped due to the China ban

opheliajadefeldt

Today 11:29 am JST

Oh my dog, not again. Tritium is all around us, in the atmosphere, it falls in rain water, it is in ALL oceans, but the levels of it are so low one has to use special measurement devices to detect it. High levels of it are dangerous but no one is exposed to these levels.

It's not only tritium that is present in the wastewater. There are up to 62 dangerous radionuclides in addition to tritium and carbon 14 according to tepco.

Roy

Today 11:33 am JST

Did tepco measured the radionuclide contents of the second batch of wastewater before dilution like they did with the first batch?

> Is this something one could look up, perchance, instead of asking suggestive questions?

It's info that should be released to the public

Especially since they're saying they want to reassure the public that the wastewater is safe

Roy

Today 11:38 am JST

It's info that should be released to the public

> And what makes you think it isn't?

???

If it's in the news I missed it somehow

Could you post a link?

ianToday 11:28 am JST

It was only the first batch that was tested under iaea supervision

No, that is false information. The IAEA is constantly monitoring the release, and will continue to do so. It set up an office at the Fukushima site for this purpose.

https://english.kyodonews.net/news/2023/07/9e88ebdcdc7e-iaea-chief-attends-meetings-in-fukushima-amid-water-discharge-worries.html

Grossi said his agency will station officials at the Fukushima field office when the discharge starts and keep ensuring the discharge is conducted in accordance with the plan. The process is expected to take over several decades.

There are up to 62 dangerous radionuclides in addition to tritium and carbon 14 according to tepco.

Radionuclides that are removed/reduced to safe levels by ALPS, as many people have explained on JT many times. This is also verified by the IAEA.

For people who don't trust the IAEA, well they probably won't trust anyone on this.

Why is this country doing business with that murdering regime at all?

They aren't. You would know that if you knew what words mean. A regime is not a country and its minor businessmen and their employees.

I have indicated this several times and I will again. I buy Russian fish at the supermarket because its the only fish that is red enough for me to be sure its not farmed crap. And farmed fish really is awful if you know anything about the practice. I want my wild caught fish, and I don't who catches it I just want it caught far from Fukushima.

Politics? Nothing but insanity, lies, stupidity and evil and greedy people behind all of it. I won't sacrifice my health for the BS politics that is the result of people being abysmally stupid in groups. Most of you out there would kill eachother over a gender dispute. I mean damn, you don't even know the difference between a regime and a fisherman on a boat in the middle of the ocean.

Just show data that shows there is no radionuclides other than tritium.

Talking about just tritium does not make the other radionuclides go away

Lol I just answered your comment.

Because ultimately thats what science is about

Randy DaytonaToday 12:22 pm JST

Prove it Isabelle

If you don't believe me, visit the IAEA website and see what they're doing for yourself.

And if you think that the IAEA is posting lies, then, like I say above, you probably won't believe anyone.

There are up to 62 dangerous radionuclides in addition to tritium and carbon 14 according to tepco.

> Radionuclides that are removed/reduced to safe levels by ALPS, as many people have explained on JT many times. This is also verified by the IAEA.

> For people who don't trust the IAEA, well they probably won't trust anyone on this.

Data publicized by tepco showed 67% of all stored wastewater (which was already treated with Alps) has radionuclide levels well above standards.

The wastrwater tested by iaea was only 3% max

First batch of released wastewater tested under iaea supervision.

Can you show measurements data and protocols for the second batch of wastrwater being released now?

That is all thats needed to reassure people probably. Show same data for the succeeding releases as the first one.

Japan stops buying Russian petroleum.

Russia stops buying Japanese seafood.

Anyone not understanding that one is a thousand times more significant than the other understands nothing.

Anyone not understanding that Japan is being screwed royally by itself, and America, over petroleum, and that the seafood bans amount to a minor inconvenience has no clue whatsoever what is happening.

Well, Japan still supports Russia with the gas projects and whatnot despite declaring being against the war in Ukraine and Russia's attack, so Russia should scratch Japan's back in return, right? Japan always wants to have it both ways, so why don't other countries understand and accommodate?

Russia sells plenty of crab to Japan that is now impossible to sell onto China or even back to the Russians-ironic!

Baffling to me that people still think the release of this wastewater is a problem for seafood. Why are so many people impervious to the scientific method? Are IQ's really dropping that low so that people can't do simple math?

What did you expect lol Russia is at war against japan just have not attacked yet and japan sanctions on Russia. Poke the bear will ya

Diddums. What did Japan expect?

MatToday 05:36 pm JST

Baffling to me that people still think the release of this wastewater is a problem for seafood.

Some people genuinely do.

But mostly - like the Russian/Chinese governments' stance (and those on JT that parrot their propaganda) - it's simply political posturing. Nothing whatsoever to do with food safety or science.

If you don't believe me, visit the IAEA website and see what they're doing for yourself.

And if you think that the IAEA is posting lies, then, like I say above, you probably won't believe anyone.

After the IAEA completely refused to admit that the Zaporozhye nuclear power plant was definitely being bombed by the Ukrainian military, I, personally, do not trust a single word of Grossi. Coward corruption is evident. He will say whatever the main customer wants.

But mostly - like the Russian/Chinese governments' stance (and those on JT that parrot their propaganda) - it's simply political posturing. Nothing whatsoever to do with food safety or science.

Well, why are you trying to persuade them, the Russians and the Chinese? Let the bastards eat their own fish. There is the UK that will buy Japanese fish with pleasure and won’t choke :))))

There is no propaganda against Japanese fish in Russia. But even so not a single Russian, spoilt, will buy fish caught by Japan. One just have to read the text on the packaging. The Russians won’t even come out to demonstration or strike or piquet. They just won't buy it and that's it.

And russia criticizes japan over sanctions. Russia coups always just sanction japan in protest.