Warlord festival featuring Takuya Kimura draws 460,000 spectators in Gifu

Do we need to celebrate the warlords now?

I recall that Toyotomi, Nobunaga's successor, went crazy and killed many Koreans at the end of his life.

This is why I avoid public events in Japan. Way too crowded, no seating, no space, no litter bins, too many security guards shouting through bullhorns, and not all that interesting anyway.

Give me quiet, empty nature.

Excellent event, wonderful !!..

Do we need to celebrate the warlords now?

Their country..

Their culture..

Their history..

I recall that Toyotomi, Nobunaga's successor, went crazy and killed many Koreans at the end of his life.

Oda was even worse. He slaughtered priests and laid waste to temples and led a campaign of slaughter and nothing short of a holocaust of the Ninja in Iga Province.

The man was detestable.

This is why I avoid public events in Japan. Way too crowded, no seating, no space, no litter bins, too many security guards shouting through bullhorns, and not all that interesting anyway.

Give me quiet, empty nature.

Oh man I hear you LOUD AND CLEAR on that one!

Just watched it on TV, no thank you. So sayeth the shepherd so sayeth the herd type scenario.

Do we need to celebrate the warlords now?

Their country..

Their culture..

Their history..

Well if it's theirs and not yours, why are you commenting?

 Strict crowd control measures were in place, with a deadly Halloween crush in Seoul, South Korea, still a fresh memory.

So there was an event that was clearly going to attract a huge number of people, to a place that usually holds only a tiny fraction of them, but it was done without serious incident because proper planning and control were put in place to avoid problems. And people took this for granted and went there trusting this preparation was in place.

This is the default in the developed world, which is why the Halloween tragedy in Seoul is so difficult to comprehend. Preparation and safety measures that have become the norm around the world are what let this kind of events become a nice memory for the people taking part of it.

This is really cool! Kimura really respects and promotes Japanese culture really well.

That’s 460000 used masks through into the street of local bush or rivers. There was a matsuri near my house with about 250 people, most from out of town judging by car plates. The next morning I found about 20 masks discarded.

If we apply today's standards to everything of the past (AKA presentism), then pretty much everything is off the menu and in 10 years people we look up to now will be villains because then the standards will be different.

Many in China still see Mao as a hero, in Taiwan Chiang Kai-shek, Vietnam Hồ Chí Minh, Mongolia Genghis Khan, in middle East nearly every leader from Saudi Arabia to the Moors, the Ottoman, etc .. we are familiar with what all the western European and North America leaders did, etc..

We cannot continue this judging the past by the present, the term cancel culture is often used but it is in a way accurate.

Nearly every hero or villain from the past were often just as bad as the other.

Very different times very different rules leave people alone.

Who?

The spectacle is always enjoyable but then remembering the history gives a different kind of reflection. When I visit Himeji Castle I can admire the architecture and the grandness of the building. But then I think about what it cost the ordinary working folks.

There was a shortage of stones to finish it. The Lord ordered the people to bring their gravestones. The lives of the poor were just that. Poor and unfair.

It sounds most unpleasant. Crowds, tightly packed crowds, are extremely unpleasant. They are also a bad idea when coronavirus is still around.

Since moving to the countryside, I have found events that attract crowds such as festivals such as fireworks can be enjoyable as the crowd is a manageable size.

Warlord festival featuring Takuya Kimura draws 460,000 spectators in Gifu

And not one person got hurt. This how you do crowd control. Well done!

Obunaga is a dubious, contentious figure at best. It's like if 460K English people flocked to a town to hero worship Oliver Cromwell, ignoring or just not knowing all the blood he spilled and grief he caused, especially in Ireland. Or, for Americans, those who love Andrew Jackson disgust me as well.

Too many Japanese mindlessly worship this guy, that's what worries me.

Obunaga is a dubious, contentious figure at best. It's like if 460K English people flocked to a town to hero worship Oliver Cromwell, ignoring or just not knowing all the blood he spilled and grief he caused, especially in Ireland. Or, for Americans, those who love Andrew Jackson disgust me as well.

I think as long as the history is taught...Hampton Court has great daily plays with reenactors playing Henry VIII, even if the man was detestable. Still, he's not glorified but showed as being a complicated figure.

What’s the issue? It’s simply a historical festival not unlike festivals across the globe.

[quote] "Mina no mono SHUTSUJIN JYA!"

Kenshin

Today 11:53 am JST

What’s the issue? It’s simply a historical festival not unlike festivals across the globe.

Because haven't you heard, we must now judge every person and event from the past based on present day beliefs, morals and laws.

That way we can dismiss all past " concepts" or "views" as wrong, incorrect, bad, patriarchal, sexist, oppressive, discrimination, misogynist, racist, XYZ phonic. ..............(incert your preferred minority/oppression) , etc ..

Yeah, nah. Waaaaay too many people for my liking.

And why Kimu Taku? The guy makes cement sheet look animated in comparison and plays himself in everything he appears in. Talent takes a back seat to pretty-boy looks. If they were going to get an ex-SMAPster, at least give the job to Kusanagi, who can actually act.

History is judged in the time it happens but also in the later moments when it is read.

There was a time when it was acceptable for young children to work in coal mines but today that is no longer acceptable. Women were once considered nothing more than shackles.

The views of any historical change over time.

The history of Nobunaga is not only about a single person but also all the people of that time. People were slaves to their lords.

Superspreader event. Lucky for those masks …..

A megalomanic psychopath transfigured into the handsome, smiling Kimu Taku. How charming. It's nice to have a rich history with powerful heroes, but it's also important that we recognise what vile characters many of were, and the horrific things they did -- and not foster any kind of hero-worship.

How Japanese revere the past when they were literally exterminating themselves in vast numbers?

And it wasn’t just the men in battle but women and children and even the monks formed armies!

The whole samurai myth is like the us cowboy cosplay myth. When is the Tom Mix festival?

So there was an event that was clearly going to attract a huge number of people, to a place that usually holds only a tiny fraction of them, but it was done without serious incident because proper planning and control were put in place to avoid problems. And people took this for granted and went there trusting this preparation was in place.

This is the default in the developed world, which is why the Halloween tragedy in Seoul is so difficult to comprehend. Preparation and safety measures that have become the norm around the world are what let this kind of events become a nice memory for the people taking part of it.

Or maybe it was because it was held on a multilane highway and not a couple of meters wide alleyway, you would need a couple of million more people to fill it up to the same level. But of course they are gonna plan it well, especially after what happened in Seoul.

Do we need to celebrate the warlords now?

What better time? China is on the move, as is their vassal, North Korea.

"Warlord festival featuring Takuya Kimura draws 460,000 spectators in Gifu"

Why does that picture look like a 10 year old's first attempts at Photoshopping a head?

Regarding the 'Samurai Spirit' (see: 'There can be only ONE') still alive and snarling in the bowels of Nihon no bunka, this would seem undeniable evidence and would also 'militate' AGAINST the current extreme fear based push by the Japanese Elite to once again 'militarize' and again pursue the relentless homicidal drive to dominance that has characterized so much, if not all, of Nihon no rekishi. And one of the MOST DECEPTIVE lies that encourage such militarization is "NUCLEAR UMBRELLA". When the U.S. oversteps, trips in its clumsy foreign policy of threat and provocation and missiles are launched, a higasa will offer more 'protection' than the so-called Nuclear Umbrella fantasy. Celebrating "WARLORDS" is just celebrating the Hitlers and Stalins of their times...

"RyderToday 01:27 am JST

Do we need to celebrate the warlords **now?**

*What better time? *** China is on the move, as is their vassal, North Korea."**

If Joseon is a "vassal" of China, it CLEARLY is much LESS of a 'vassal' that Nihon is of the U.S.. BTW, China went home after the 'Korean War' (Chinese: “The War to Resist America and Aid Korea.”) but the Americans stayed as an occupation army and helped to support several highly corrupt and abusive Hanguk governments besides insuring that the Korean People can NEVER make peace with themselves and destroy the U.S.'s faux justification for continuing its military occupation of both Hanguk and Nihon... The Romans used the same justifications in keeping their legions in vassal states to control them.