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Japanese firm wins world's 1st sustainable label for tuna fishing

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Tuna is being marketed as if it's going out of fashion, not facing extinction.

I do hope this heightens consumer awareness.

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This is all for show as ever, kinda like putting lipstick on a pig. Japan rapes and pollutes the sea and think one National holiday (marine day) atones for it, pfff.

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Younger Japanese that I know actually prefer Norway salmon over tuna in a big way, which will go a long way to helping replenish tuna in the oceans in the world.

I remember when there was never any salmon in a sushi bar, now its all over the place!

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/life/2018/03/10/food/norwegian-campaign-behind-japans-love-salmon-sushi/

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Younger Japanese that I know actually prefer Norway salmon over tuna in a big way

Tell the younger Japanese to watch YouTube videos about Norwegian Salmon farming. I guarantee they will never eat again.

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The only sustainable way is to go vegan!

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The only sustainable way is to go vegan!

Hahahaha......vegan is a religion for the wealthy! Oh and dont talk about not "killing" anything for your sustenance either, as plants and vegetables are living organisms too!

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Tell the younger Japanese to watch YouTube videos about Norwegian Salmon farming. I guarantee they will never eat again.

Yes, unfortunately it is going in the wrong direction. Salmon used to be healthier and rich in oils, now it’s becoming more similar to chicken after being fed soy their whole life. Not to mention the salmon louse problem and the fact that the salmon way too often escapes the farms and destroy the natural salmon population.

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Catching tuna should be a crime as the species is close to being wiped out.

The population, according to statistics shows that the it is around 2.5% of what the unfished population would be.

Future generations will not be able to consume tuna as it will be extinct...

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Seems fishy to me...

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The only sustainable way is to go vegan!

Really?? And how much land and fertilizer are you going to need to grow enough for the entire world population? Veganism is like a boy scout badge for the reach few who constantly announce to everyone they meet that they are vegan and think they are saving the world while driving SUVs, wearing leather trousers, hats, shoes, belts and coats...

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Really?? And how much land and fertilizer are you going to need to grow enough for the entire world population?

It takes way more land and water to produce 1 kilo of animal protein than it does to produce the same amount of vegetable protein. And let's not forget the fertiliser needed to grow the feed for the animals that are destined for the plate.

Legumes, on the other hand, provide dietary protein and add nitrogen to the soil.

Veganism ...think they are saving the world while driving SUVs, wearing leather trousers, hats, shoes, belts and coats...

vegan | ˈvēɡən | 

noun 

a person who does not eat or use animal products

And that includes leather goods.

If anyone sporting leather trousers or shoes, or a leather hat, belts or coat, tells you they're vegan - they're not.

The SUVs I couldn't comment on, but I think you'll find they have nothing to do with diet?

Invalid CSRF

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And how much land and fertilizer are you going to need to grow enough for the entire world population?

The ignorance here is just astounding. Is it your belief that factory farmed animals were raised on sunlight and water in their tiny pens?

Anyway, pescetarianism (fish, fruit, grain, vegetable) is the true way forward if you bother to consider the wider picture as so many devout vegans do not ( no sense practically ignoring the bounty of the vast seas we have on this overpopulated rock). That being the case we need strict oversight of fishing which this licensing represents. Unfortunately I do not trust this attempt. It sounds a bit like my local garbage burning station putting up a brightly lit "Eco" sign on the side. Window dressing. A sham.

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Anyway, pescetarianism (fish, fruit, grain, vegetable) is the true way forward if you bother to consider the wider picture

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Come on, were probably all University educated. What's the first thing you do when reading a research paper? Look at who did it and who paid for it.

A quick looks at MSC

In December 2016 Private Eye reported that a leaked internal WWF document concluded that because the MSC receives royalties from licensing its ecolabel (providing 75% of the organisation's revenue) there is a conflict of interest and it has relaxed its sustainability requirements, enabling more products to carry its label, thereby increasing its own income.

So I'll suggest a corrected title.

"Japanese tuna fisheries first in the world to pay for sustainability certificate from a for profit cooperation"

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That being the case we need strict oversight of fishing which this licensing represents.

Right,and just has "oversight" helped to save the thousands of whales that Japan has harvested in the name of culture....(cough cough cough) sorry, scientific research!

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It's a joke, probably funded by?

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Right,and just has "oversight" helped to save the thousands of whales that Japan has harvested

"Harvested whales" (read "hunted") are obviously not saved so your statement is completely nonsensical. But if you think several whale species have not been saved from extinction due to oversight, you simply were not paying any attention to reality. Sure, Japan and Norway were no help but oversight has been.

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I doubt pescetarians have any issue with eating insects for example

I know many people who happily eat fish, not many (in my immediate personal circle, not one) who would nibble on an insect.

"Harvested whales" (read "hunted") are obviously not saved so your statement is completely nonsensical.

I'm pretty sure the comment was meant to be sarcastic...

But if you think several whale species have not been saved from extinction due to oversight, you simply were not paying any attention to reality.

There is a big difference between saving a species from extinction and saving individual animals from gory, painful and unnecessary death.

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All of the fish species taken commercially are under great pressure. Harvesting amounts are compounded by temperature changes caused by global warming. Because Japan is a big tuna consumer, they were the first to raise farmed Bluefin from eggs. "Farmed" bluefin in the Mediterranean are caught wild small and raised in pens. While Japan is currently the largest end consumer, the largest actual taker of Atlantic Bluefin is the EU. Tuna stocks are also under pressure from increased demand in other Asian nations as well, with China being a potential catalyst for complete decimation in the near future. Without a comprehensive management system available tuna (and other species) will continue to diminish and prices increase until the market will no longer support it. Fortunately, farmed Atlantic Salmon from Norway and Chile have overtaken Tuna as the most popular "sushineta" in Japan for the past few years.

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yubaru:

Hahahaha......vegan is a religion for the wealthy! Oh and dont talk about not "killing" anything for your sustenance either, as plants and vegetables are living organisms too!

Well, to be honest, you are correct in a way. Yesterday, when I was pulling that lettuce out of the soil, I really had to wrestle with my conscience when it started screaming in pain. And with more and more vegans (see UK), carrots are going to have to be factory farmed - it pains me to see all those carrots jam-packed with little space to move.

But yes, only the Royal Family can afford to eat fruit and vegetables. There are days when I'm reduced to eating weeds.

I really am glutton for punishment - there are days when I think I should go back to supporting the torturing of animals in factory farms. Sure beats the hell out of hurting those turnips.

Did you mention whales?

Paul:

Maybe I should also think of getting leather shoes. You know, just to make cows' lives even more miserable.

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Don't teach the Chinese how delcious our Maguro is and Japanese loved fish are. You know they are going to fish the crap of the them until the go instinct.

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“The fishery operates in the eastern Atlantic Ocean, “

Global JP it is, and is it wealth or just money making?

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I know many people who happily eat fish, not many (in my immediate personal circle, not one) who would nibble on an insect.

What I meant is that there is nothing in pescetarianism that prohits eating insects or several other things that are not red meat or bird. I doubt any would have any moral objection.

There is a big difference between saving a species from extinction and saving individual animals from gory, painful and unnecessary death.

The article and thread are about protection from extinction.

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yet the tuna and other fish stocks are collapsing. Japan has a lot of tasty yams though

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"Harvested whales" (read "hunted") are obviously not saved so your statement is completely nonsensical. But if you think several whale species have not been saved from extinction due to oversight, you simply were not paying any attention to reality. Sure, Japan and Norway were no help but oversight has been.

As noted, and to confirm, it is called "sarcasm". Sorry you missed it.

Oh and on another point, dont know if you realize this or not, but Japan doesnt do well will adhering to "oversight" particularly when it comes from abroad, and it is about a "cultural" thing, real or imagined.

Oh, and just to let you know ahead of time, this is both "real" and "sarcasm" too this time!

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