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Japan grants 1st payment for death related to COVID vaccination

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What a blatant lie we were sold when told 'It's safe!'.

All medicines have side effects. Whether to consume or not is and always should be a personal choice without judgment from others.

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it wont be the last.

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It's a start, but these 1,700 vaccine-related deaths in Japan are just the tip of the iceberg. This was just published in Nature, and thus the pro-vaxxers cannot argue its “mere opinion” or a “conspiracy theory” since it went through the journal’s review process. It is no longer mere speculation that the jabs could wind up causing serious immune damage — and that said damage may well be permanent.

Recently, we (The Lancet) published a study on the effectiveness of COVID-19 vaccines and the waning of immunity with time. The study showed that immune function among vaccinated individuals 8 months after the administration of two doses of COVID-19 vaccine was lower than that among the unvaccinated individuals. According to European Medicines Agency recommendations, frequent COVID-19 booster shots could adversely affect the immune response and may not be feasible…. These clinical alterations may explain the association reported between COVID-19 vaccination and shingles.

Notice a problem in that language — the damage isn’t specific to Covid and it is not transient either as one might expect from an immune challenge by vaccination (or infection) — even at eight months, likely the duration of the study, immune impairment from these jabs was persistent. That’s extraordinarily bad, and exactly why you don’t rush out new things without testing over a long period of time so you can not just find such potential problems but definitively run them into the ground before you go injecting a couple of hundred million people in America alone and billions more world-wide.

The impact may be irreversible and notice that the article talks about mitigating rather than reversing the impact, specifically limiting other drugs that might otherwise suppress or interfere with immune function even on a short-term basis. May I remind you that beyond the impact when it comes to being impaired in fighting off other diseases every single person on the planet today has cancerous cells in their body and it is your immune system that keeps those in check and prevents you from developing clinical cancer. If this damage is permanent then your lifetime cancer risk has been permanently and materially increased, perhaps by a LOT.

What’s worse is that the younger you are the greater the harm because you have more years in front of you for those abnormal cells to get out of control.

Let me point out another very nasty aspect of this: This Lancet report does not describe a random chance event; rather it describes mechanisms of action that are caused when you are given these jabs. Indeed it is logical, given this data, to believe that myocarditis is simply a bad roll on how ugly it was for you in that myocarditis is inflammation which, in the absence of a pathogen is evidence of significant immune dysregulation. That is, every person who took the jabs got screwed. The degree of screwing of course varies from person to person but everyone who took the jab got nailed to some degree because the mechanism of harm was introduced into the body. Whether there is variation with the technology used is not something that is yet in evidence but the presumption at this point has to be that at best it is a result of what I have described as a nasty biological parlor trick through the inducement of the body’s cells to produce spike protein, a trick that was chosen in an attempt to avoid the history of ADE that has repeatedly developed in trials of whole, inactivated virus for various coronavirus strains. What’s worse is that the spike was intentionally genetically modified in the jabs to prevent it from folding and breaking down in order to enhance the immune response and thus it has now been found in the circulation months after vaccination.

We did all of this despite having zero long-term evidence that hijacking the cellular machinery to produce the spike was safe and much worse we had scientific evidence prior to the mass roll-out of these shots that the spike alone, absent the rest of the virus, was capable of producing direct harm to the body. I warned of this repeatedly in my posts here on JT before we started this idiocy on a mass-basis and now, it appears, I was not only right, but I actually underestimated the risk in that my assumption was that the damage would be coronavirus (and maybe Covid) specific.

The evidence now strongly suggests that the damage is to the totality of immune response.

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"A Japanese health ministry panel...3,680 people have had applications accepted"

Claiming deaths?

"A separate health ministry panel...more than 1,700 cases of vaccine-related deaths...."

Do these overlap?

And WHY is the government paying this compensation and not the Big Pharma drug dealers who marketed these 'safe' injections that seem to have had little effect on the ubiquity of the COVID family? And no one seems to have studied the details and found that many who died in the initial waves died because they were treated in the wrong way, that is, using the wrong ventilation protocols that further damaged their lungs? And if this number of fatalities in Japan that we know of, how many in the World? And the most important question to many here, how are Big Pharma stocks doing?

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All of this is, in spite of what many will unfortunately try to refute, a very worrisome development. I continue to believe that, after having already been infected in 2020 by the OG Coronavirus variant (with mild symptoms and no medications other than standard fever/flu drugs), I made the right decision by waiting out the original wave of hype and optimism surrounding the vaccines, because I wanted to see that Japan would actually waive quarantines for inbound/returning they travellers. They did not, and I felt unhappy with them at the time, but perhaps they were more ahead of the curve than I originally thought. I'm not defending their absurd travel restrictions that exist even until now, but it's apparent now Japan was smart for not even suggesting the idea of segmenting society into tiers of vaccinated and unvaccinated.

I don't want this to be a slam dunk on people who legitimately wanted to believe in the vaccines, because they thought their lives would return to normal. I'm actually worried for them and their health. If some of them still want to think of me as a plague rat that's fine, that can be their coping mechanism for the failure that has been the vaccines.

Going forward, this should go without saying: no more boosters. No more emergency authorizations. No more fast track approval processes in which the people greenlighting the vaccine have a financial incentive to do so.

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1,700 cases of vaccine-related deaths in Japan only???

You are assuming vaccine related deaths means vaccine caused deaths, that is not the case.

If you vaccinate literally millions of people with advanced age and several diseases after a year thousands will die even if the vaccine causes absolutely no problem. Those are the vaccine related deaths.

Expecting old and sick people to become immortal just because they were vaccinated is not rational.

To say the vaccine is not safe you would need to have EXCESS deaths in vaccinated people compared with unvaccinated people of the same demographics. This is not what is being reported.

It's a start, but these 1,700 vaccine-related deaths in Japan are just the tip of the iceberg

No, it is not, it is just the expected fatalities from the population that was vaccinated misrepresenting those deaths as if they were automatically produced by the vaccine (or above what is expected even if those people were not vaccinated) is just difinformation.

Recently, we (The Lancet) published a study on the effectiveness of COVID-19 vaccines and the waning of immunity with time. The study showed that immune function among vaccinated individuals 8 months after the administration of two doses of COVID-19 vaccine was lower than that among the unvaccinated individuals.

That is still completely false, no matter how many times you copy-paste this unreviewed letter, the authors of the study never concluded the vaccines made the immunity lower than unvaccinated people, in fact their conclusions said vaccinating and boosting was still the best preventive measure against covid.

What a blatant lie we were sold when told 'It's safe!'.

Because the vaccines do not make people heal from their diseases and go back to being young? that is a very irrational expectation.

Yep, just too many bad things happening with the mRNA vaccines that I flat out refused to have it.

Not becoming superhuman after being vaccinated is not a "bad thing", is normal.

And WHY is the government paying this compensation and not the Big Pharma drug dealers who marketed these 'safe' injections that seem to have had little effect on the ubiquity of the COVID family? 

Because the government is more interested in the public health, and it is also more beneficial for the claimants to just prove it is not impossible for the vaccine to cause the damage, if the people had to prove the vaccine is the only possible cause in a trial they would have a much more difficult task, and much more money would just be lost to laywers without the claimants receiving anything.

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@virusrex,

Great posts. Your patience in shutting down the far-right/religious loon/anti-science crowd is commendable.

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If these 1700 cases of vaccine related deaths are in Japan, do clearly proof that the vaccine is far away from being safe!

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I have heard many doctors here do not give the vaccine to the elderly because of the risks associated with it.

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Yep, just too many bad things happening with the mRNA vaccines that I flat out refused to have it.

When AstraZeneca was quietly dropped as an option it became even more conspiratorial for me-glad that I did now!

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@Ego Sum Lux Mundi

Can you please post a link to the Nature/Lancet study? Thank you.

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First do no harm…

That’s an oath.

Nobody should be forced, pressured, coerced or threatened to undergo an invasive procedure that could kill them.

Consent must be freely given and totalyl voluntary.

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If these 1700 cases of vaccine related deaths are in Japan, do clearly proof that the vaccine is far away from being safe!

Probably Japanese vaccine related deaths. The world-wide numbers (VAERS and others) are much much higher.

By the end of Feb, 2021, Pfizer had already recorded 1,223 vaccine-related deaths, according to documents released by the FDA after a FOIA request and court order.

And yes, these vaccines are far from being safe. The data continues to pour out, showing associations with deaths, heart problems, menstrual problems, miscarriages....

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I mean if they worked in the first place…maybe if you were over 80 or immuno compromised but they don’t event work and as expected can kill you to boot! 

According to the doctors they work, and very importantly reduce the risk to the health and life of the people vaccinated. Yeah, the vaccines do not prevent people from dying of causes completely unrelated to covid, but it would be terribly irrational to expect them to do that, no vaccine makes the vaccinated people invulnerable to everything.

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Elvis is hereToday  05:01 pm JST

Lol. What? You clearly have never been to a vaccine site in Japan. Or know how the vaccine system works.

You think elderly patients in hospitals and nursing homes in Japan are taken to these vaccination sites?

Do you know how the system works?

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Elvis is hereToday  05:41 pm JST

Three family members are nurses. They say the same.

Yeah, sure.

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I have heard many doctors here do not give the vaccine to the elderly because of the risks associated with it.

And yet the official communications from the doctors in Japan clearly contradicts this and make it very clear that vaccination reduce the risk for everybody except for very specific cases.

Have you heard also how many doctors give antibiotics against the common cold? that can help understanding the situation.

Probably Japanese vaccine related deaths. The world-wide numbers (VAERS and others) are much much higher.

Yes because they follow more people, the important part is that the problems happen in the same rates between vaccinated and unvaccinated people. Pretending this is because of the vaccines requires for them to magically affect unvaccinated people in the same way, which obviously is nonsense.

And yes, these vaccines are far from being safe. The data continues to pour out, showing associations with deaths, heart problems, menstrual problems, miscarriages....

When you have to "defend" this misrepresenting the same data that the experts use to prove the vaccines are safe that makes it very clear you dont have a real argument for this. Just vague, unproved and impossible conspiracies that involve every institution of the whole world.

Nobody should be forced, pressured, coerced or threatened to undergo an invasive procedure that could kill them.

And nobody is, people just have to live with the consequences of their decisions when they are irrational and can be proved so.

All of this is, in spite of what many will unfortunately try to refute, a very worrisome development

Really? based on what information? the numbers are completely expected just by looking at the population that is prioritized for vaccination, the same happening all over the world where old people die the same with or without the vaccines (except from covid, where vaccinated people have the advantage).

Plenty have gotten rich quickly from the vaccines despite how ineffective they are against new variants.

Any data to prove this? because the experts, doctors, epidemiologists, etc. keep recommending the vaccines and showing how vaccinated people have a much better prognosis after infection compared with unvaccinated people, even for the omicron variants.

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Flood gates: opened.

"If it saves one life..."

As I realised early on, this whole debacle has been Swine Flu 2.0. Same process, but on a grander scale: https://archive.hshsl.umaryland.edu/bitstream/handle/10713/8270/Doshi_Pandermrix2018.pdf?sequence=1&isAllowed=y

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A separate health ministry panel of experts, which analyzes side effects, has received reports of more than 1,700 cases of vaccine-related deaths from medical facilities

1,700 cases of vaccine-related deaths in Japan only???

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@Ego Sum: You have too much time on your hands.

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Monty - 1700 deaths makes it statistically safer than contracting Covid and merely underlines the how many people the vaccine has prevented from death. Big Picture.

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@painkiller - and let me guess, you never came across a nurse or doctor who approved of the vaccine. Pull the other one mate - its got bells on it.

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theResidentToday  05:13 pm JST

@painkiller - and let me guess, you never came across a nurse or doctor who approved of the vaccine. Pull the other one mate - its got bells on it.

Not for the elderly; after the first dr. advised against it I went for a second opinion, and then a third.

Why don't you check out this issue yourself and see what you are told.

And it is not like I encounter nurses or doctors in everyday life; I had to seek them out.

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Consent must be freely given and totalyl voluntary.

and informed!

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well my J sister in law is a nurse that treats covid patients, and the vast majority of those in serious conditions in hospital are unvaxxed, 1600 cases of deaths associated with the vax, with nearly 100million people vaccinated in Japan, statistically insignificant. but the antivaxxers will latch on to swing from the rafters screeching conspiracy theories

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 reports of more than 1,700 cases of vaccine-related deaths from medical facilities, although no causal relationships have been recognized.

There you have it. No causal relationships between the vaccine and death despite Millions of shots.....

The antivaxxers look crazier than ever. Seems like they have been reduced to spamming JT.

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Plenty have gotten rich quickly from the vaccines despite how ineffective they are against new variants. Even pushing on kiddies now despite new evidence from Singapore that they more cause more harm than good

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I mean if they worked in the first place…maybe if you were over 80 or immuno compromised but they don’t event work and as expected can kill you to boot! Can’t believe the pharma shills are still on here spruiking their wares!

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Luckily, nobody is forced to.

Nobody should be forced, pressured, coerced or threatened to undergo an invasive procedure that could kill them.

Consent must be freely given and totalyl voluntary

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