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Japan may have entered 9th COVID-19 wave: Omi

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He underscored that people at high risk of developing severe illness should be vaccinated.

Instead of a blanket, one-size-fits-all vaccination scheme, why wasn't this the position from beginning? The answer is simply because there is serious money to made from preaching unsubstantiated "medical facts" to a scared populace.

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Instead of a blanket, one-size-fits-all vaccination scheme, why wasn't this the position from beginning?

One, because there never was a blanket one-size-fits-all vaccination scheme, and two, because the widespread immunization is precisely what gives population the ability of properly protect vulnerable population with a booster, specially with the much less risky variants currently predominant, a completely different situation from the beginning.

The answer is simply because there is serious money to made from preaching unsubstantiated "medical facts" to a scared populace.

Treating symptomatic infections (and specially complicated ones) is much more profitable, and calling the scientific consensus "unsubstantiated" without demonstrating the experts are wrong is not an argument, is just wishful thinking.

-10 ( +19 / -29 )

My wife had covid once, I had it twice. I had all the vaccinations, she had none. The severity was the same - like a heavy flu. I'd like to know other people's experience and whether they were vaccinated or not.

17 ( +27 / -10 )

I'd like to know other people's experience and whether they were vaccinated or not.

Wife and I got all vaccines. Followed all J Gov guidelines as best we could. We both knowingly have not gotten Covid yet and have never been healthier, despite myself working in a high risk environment.

Go figure.

4 ( +19 / -15 )

because the widespread immunization is precisely what gives population the ability of properly protect vulnerable population with a booster, specially with the much less risky variants currently predominant, a completely different situation from the beginning.

Can you honestly say, without a hint of irony, that strongly and vigorously encouraging the vaccination of the vast majority of the population was the right thing to do?

Can you honestly say that dismissing the many now-vindicated virologists, epidemiologists, biologists and toxicologists whose counter views were quashed, ridiculed and censored, as "anti-vax conspiracy theorists" - was the correct stance to take?

Because if the answer is yes to either or both, history has proven you to be incorrect, and continuing to hold onto such views would make you a science denier. That would be your legacy.

-5 ( +16 / -21 )

I told everyone almost 2 weeks ago that the wave had already started! My family member told me about so many university students getting sick or coming to Japan already sick!

4 ( +15 / -11 )

I'd like to know other people's experience and whether they were vaccinated or not.

I got all vaccines. Followed all J Gov guidelines as best we could. We both knowingly have not gotten Covid yet and have never been healthier, despite myself working in a high risk environment. 

Go figure.

I didn't get any of vaccines. Ignored all J Gov guidelines. I knowingly have not gotten Covid and have never been healthier, despite myself working in a high risk environment. 

Go figure.

-7 ( +17 / -24 )

I'd like to know other people's experience and whether they were vaccinated or not.

I had it for the first time in January this year. I’ve had the initial vaccination and two subsequent boosters only. Can only speak for myself but, for me, the symptoms were generally milder than the flu. Fever lasted an evening. Worst was the sore throat which lasted two days. Reduced sense of smell for a couple of weeks. I was up and about for most of my quarantine period. I’d rather have it again than this spring’s bout of hay fever or my recent throat infection, but that’s just my personal experience. Many others have had it worse.

2 ( +7 / -5 )

Go figure.

That's an easy one Jay.

-3 ( +6 / -9 )

I can surf on board developed by the Natutal Immunity Co.

Hang Ten brah.

0 ( +9 / -9 )

That's an easy one Jay.

It certainly was.

-7 ( +5 / -12 )

It certainly was.

Indeed.

-2 ( +5 / -7 )

With Russian oil scarce, selling ineffective drugs and masks is the best bet to get rich quick.

-9 ( +8 / -17 )

Time to mask up again in public, especially on trains. Otherwise you might get some dirty looks. "Don't you know there is another wave?"

-8 ( +4 / -12 )

Don’t forget Long Covid people. That’s the real issue here. You can have mild or no symptoms at all, but then be wheelchair bound for the rest of your life with this thing if you’re unlucky. Go on, down vote, I really don’t care!

-6 ( +10 / -16 )

bivalent booster

proves negative in ten weeks

caution, gentle breeze

3 ( +5 / -2 )

Don’t care if I get it as I’ve had it already and apart from one day lounging in the futon, I was fine

However, if I did get infected again then I can easily limit my interactions with others

0 ( +5 / -5 )

Still, about 25 people per day dying from covid.

-8 ( +4 / -12 )

Don’t forget Long Covid people. That’s the real issue here.

"In a recent trial, around 60 percent of long COVID patients recovered from severe fatigue after a four-month course of cognitive behavioral therapy, compared to about a quarter of those who did not receive CBT. "*

It would seem that adopting a positive mental attitude (PMA) would help alleviate long covid symptoms.

*https://slate.com/technology/2023/06/mental-illness-long-covid-body-mind.html

4 ( +9 / -5 )

Still, about 25 people per day dying from covid.

Still about 25 very elderly people with 4 or more comorbidities dying with covid.

The same amount that would be dying if we'd never heard of it,

0 ( +11 / -11 )

A couple of weeks ago, my son's school shut down for a two days because of Covid. There were several cases in my son's class. My son (unvaxxed) did not get sick.

I'd like to know other people's experience and whether they were vaccinated or not.

I had Covid last fall. Had mild symptoms on the 1st day, these went away immediately after I started following part of the FLCCC protocol, and for about two more days I just felt a little tired. I'm unvaxxed.

I think I caught it during a hospital visit for an unrelated issue. The guy taking my blood was coughing, we were both masked.

-5 ( +6 / -11 )

Oh, I got fever…. Does that mean I’ve got COVID ?????

-3 ( +6 / -9 )

I recently caught covid. I never got it until last month and I've never been vaxed. Everyone who got it around me had different experiences. Most of my friends were vaxed (2 or 3) but the symptoms varied from dry coughs, body aches, slight to high fevers, and of course loss of smell and taste. Some more severe than others but everyone recovered within a few days. My case was unique since I only had a slight fever on the last day; however, i was in bed for 3 days not being able stand for a few minutes without being dizzy and feeling extremely exhausted and sore as if I had just climbed Mt. Everest.

-1 ( +4 / -5 )

4Tno

My case was unique since I only had a slight fever on the last day; however, i was in bed for 3 days not being able stand for a few minutes without being dizzy and feeling extremely exhausted and sore as if I had just climbed Mt. Everest.

That was my experience when I caught it in April, 2020 (pre-vax). The people who pop-poo it just don’t understand.

For a few weeks I had a very hard, labored time standing up in the morning. After that, shakes, muscle jerks, and brain fog. Continued for months. The breathing difficulty was the least of my problems. It took about a year to get back to reasonably normal.

I’ve since been vaxxed and have caught it two more times. Both times the symptoms were very mild, and I feel great.

Anyway, hope you’re feeling better!

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It would seem that adopting a positive mental attitude (PMA) would help alleviate long covid symptoms.

I’m all in on PMA, and I’m fit and trim and very active. Like you, I’m here and there in central Osaka every day. But as the good people above have said, it affects everyone differently. Hope you stay well in this latest episode.

4 ( +5 / -1 )

Oh, I got fever…. Does that mean I’ve got COVID ?????

Assumably, everyone got infected by the virus onece or twice. So it is a good question to ask what defines "got COVID". I'd say, if you have to ask the question, you did not "get COVID". It is a pretty severe disease, so you'd know if you really got it.

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Present Japanese society is already in 9th wave after political and unscientific downgrading of Covid19 by government.

But LDP government escape from responsibility, discontinued announcement of daily number of infections and deaths as if Covid19 ended, deprived even information about caution against Covid19 from general citizen, misled general public. 

Japan where learn nothing from past 3 years repeat overload at medical services again, and more increase victim.

This is man-made disaster politics caused.

-5 ( +6 / -11 )

Everybody in my family has 5 vaccinations, I was travelling outside of Japan too for several weeks and nobody of us got covid, except our 2 grandchildren, who were too young for vaccination (3 and 5 years old) and they suffered about 1 week with fever and other symptoms.

About vaccination, we all got Pfizer 3 times, no side effects noticed and 2 times Moderna and we were surprised how strong this vaccine affected us with fever, headache, feeling cold etc., but any discomfort disappeared within 2 days.

It seems, vaccines are not all the same, people react differently to them.

I cannot comment about covid - nobody of us fully vaccinated adults got it, only our unvaccinated 2 grandchildren, but they fully recovered within one week.

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I'd say, if you have to ask the question, you did not "get COVID". It is a pretty severe disease, so you'd know if you really got it.

Fredrik, Covid has a lower IFR than the common Flu. That is the opposite of a severe disease,

It seems, vaccines are not all the same, people react differently to them.

Yohan - vaccines have had, and will have, no effect of how you react to getting infected. With an overall IFR of 0.001, the only people who have a hard time with it are the same people who have a harder time with any sickness; the very very old and the very very unhealthy.

-10 ( +2 / -12 )

Wow covids back in the news

0 ( +2 / -2 )

Here we go again and mask off

-6 ( +1 / -7 )

I don't think we need to count 'waves'. Covid is endemic now. In my opinion it would be more accurate for them to describe 'Covid season' is here again. Coverage and full reporting is important though. I just don't think 'wave' is quite the right expression anymore.

1 ( +3 / -2 )

The government and media seem strangely unconcerned by the excess deaths that have been recorded recently. It's interesting to compare late the early part of the pandemic (late 2019 to mid 2020) against later stages. For more information see https://exdeaths-japan.org/en/graph/weekly/

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Babe Ruth

   Still, about 25 people per day dying from covid.

> Still about 25 very elderly people with 4 or more comorbidities dying with covid.

> The same amount that would be dying if we'd never heard of it,

Are you a doctor or medical examiner now?

People are still dying from covid and many still have the infection.

3 ( +8 / -5 )

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