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Japan plans new COVID-19 vaccine rollout from May for elderly

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Since contracting the virus last year, I’ve yet to have symptoms a second time which proves to me that natural immunity is the only way to prevent infection

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That just means that you haven’t caught it a second time, yet.

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I know of a few people who have had 4 or 5 shots and they still came down with COVID. The shot is not as important as your own immunity by the big pharma businesses want your money and want you to continue to take more and more shots for years to come.

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Never mind Big Farma (sounds like a small ice cream company). Vaccination is a very good idea considering the latest advice from other medical experts is:

The coronavirus (COVID-19) vaccines are safe and effective. They give you the best protection against COVID-19.

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavirus-covid-19/coronavirus-vaccination/coronavirus-vaccine/

COVID-19 vaccination is recommended for all people aged 5 years or older to protect against COVID-19. 

https://www.health.gov.au/our-work/covid-19-vaccines/advice-for-providers/clinical-guidance/clinical-recommendations#primary-vaccination-course-recommendations

Safe and effective vaccines are available that provide strong protection against serious illness, hospitalization and death from COVID-19. 

https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/covid-19-vaccines/advice

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This information should have been announced at the start of the vaccine rollout as part of the informed consent principle.

It is, you refusing to get informed do not means the information is not readily available.

There were of course plenty of experts trying to get this information out 2 years ago but they were accused of spreading disinformation and were silenced.

No they were, the "experts" that were spreading disinformation were those that promoted falsehoods. The vaccines were predicted to lose efficacy against the inevitable variants even before they were developed.

Since contracting the virus last year, I’ve yet to have symptoms a second time which proves to me that natural immunity is the only way to prevent infection

That is not proof, and the scientific reports say vaccination is a much better way to prevent complications and even infections, because it does not come with the full risks you are trying to prevent in the first place. It has been demonstrated that even people previously infected have lower risk after getting vaccinated.

I know of a few people who have had 4 or 5 shots and they still came down with COVID. The shot is not as important as your own immunity by the big pharma businesses want your money and want you to continue to take more and more shots for years to come.

Since it has been easy to prove that being vaccinated reduces the risk for anybody for whom the vaccines are indicated your claim can be proved as false. The vaccines allows for immunity to be achieved without having the full risks of infection. This has made possible to save millions of lives.

So not only are the elderly being forced to mask up indefinitely but will now be jabbed indefinitely?

Nothing in the article can be misinterpreted in this way, those that benefit the most from measures are allowed to benefit from them, this is completely desirable and has helped avoiding uncountable number of deaths according to the experts.

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COVID vaxx no thanks !!!

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BroncoToday 07:08 am JST

As the effects of vaccinations could diminish in six months to one year

This information should have been announced at the start of the vaccine rollout as part of the informed consent principle.

There were of course plenty of experts trying to get this information out 2 years ago but they were accused of spreading disinformation and were silenced.

Those people deserve an apology.

Actually? Everyone knew this. I'm pretty sure you knew it, too, considering that 1) this info has been in every article about the vaccine; 2) this is generally the case with many vaccines so is common knowledge. There is no use pretending you did not know or that this has somehow been hidden.

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So the vaccine for a long gone variant is the "new" vaccine? It has been shown that these non variant related vaccines are next to useless against different variants. Being that the severity of symptoms ha

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So not only are the elderly being forced to mask up indefinitely but will now be jabbed indefinitely

Sounds a a bit hysterical.

Has there been a new law in Japan forcing the elderly, or anyone else for that matter, to wear masks and get vaccinated?

I must have missed that.

I read some posters are ‘influencing’ others by not wearing masks, often drawing gasps of admiration for doing so.

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its not nice to push people get vaccinated.

good product sells itself even without any advertisement or gov help.

let people decide FREELY if they want take a jab or not.

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I assume this something for which some people are wishfully waiting and they seem it as an obligation to be a good citizens getting a shot regularly without believe in any effect

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This thread is so 2020.... Give us all a break!

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So the vaccine for a long gone variant is the "new" vaccine? 

What is this "long gone variant" you are talking about? Omicron variant is still prevalent right now.

 It has been shown that these non variant related vaccines are next to useless against different variants. 

No, it is not. that is a false claim clearly contradicted by the available evidence.

Has now decreased significantly why bother?

As long as the population to be vaccinated are still at a higher risk there is a lot of value in protecting them, you personally may believe there is no point in saving lives, but doctors and other health care professionals fortunately do not share your disregard for human lives.

its not nice to push people get vaccinated.

And they are not, they are being offered the chance to be protected from important risks, everybody can freely choose, this is the whole point, to give them that choice even without an extra cost.

I assume this something for which some people are wishfully waiting and they seem it as an obligation to be a good citizens getting a shot regularly without believe in any effect

Why would this be the case? vaccines are considered a hugely successful medical intervention that are specially useful for the people targeted on this future vaccination effort. Informed people would be obviously happy to be able to reduce their risk precisely because the effect is clear.

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If people want and feel the need to get the shot, go right ahead, but I would never put that stuff in my body, Nope, No way!

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Since contracting the virus last year, I’ve yet to have symptoms a second time which proves to me that natural immunity is the only way to prevent infection

That is not proof...it can be conincidence.

Contra that with my experience...have had the vaccinations, never have contracted covid.

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A better approach would be a vaccine mandate for anyone and everyone living or visiting here .!. This “natural immunity” chatter is just that .!. The vaccines have proven to be effective and safe.!. The marginalized minority of highly irresponsible people have been whining about natural immunity for 3 years now . All that did was lead directly to more unnecessary deaths.!. Every person is at high risk ! Some are just higher .!.

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@virusrex

Immunosenescence is a real issue for people over 65 meaning they are far less likely to respond to vaccines, develop new immunity for fight off an infection. So yes, for people over 65 there is a net benefit to the population.

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The Japanese government has come to the correct science based fact that there is no benefit to these vaccines for people under the age of 65 unless they are immunocompromised.

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As more scientific evidence is arrived at, recommendations based on the available science may change. Who are you going to believe regarding the usefulness of people under the age of 65 getting another shot, a panel of experts or @virusrex?

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kurisupisuToday  07:12 am JST

Since contracting the virus last year, I’ve yet to have symptoms a second time which proves to me that natural immunity is the only way to prevent infection

But you did get infected.

I haven't been infected as far as I know but no conclusions based on that singular example

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This news surely agitated a lot of people =)

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> proxyToday  11:19 am JST

The Japanese government has come to the correct science based fact that there is no benefit to these vaccines for people under the age of 65 unless they are immunocompromised.

Is that the reason why they will expand rollout of vaccinations later?

The latest decision came after a health ministry panel agreed earlier this month that the next round of vaccinations should start in the fall or winter of 2023 at the latest, with the elderly and others at high risk the primary target before vaccinations expand to others.

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