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In Japan, people who possess a TV set are required to pay for an NHK subscription, but the revised law does not require any additional fee.

No ADDITIONAL fee, but now NHK will come after anyone with an internet connection and a computer - or a smartphone and demand the current extortion, er, fee.

Any guesses on how long it will take them to start?

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in Japan, people who possess a TV set are required to pay for an NHK subscription, but the revised law does not require any additional fee.

"subscription" is not the correct term to use for NHK.

Subscription: the action of making or agreeing to make an advance payment in order to receive or participate in something

I don't agree and have not signed a contract however, by law, must pay it.

I thought that you can not receive a service, i.e. Netflix unless you SUBSCRIBE for it. Once subscription is approved and BOTH parties can you then receive the service. NHK on the other hand, forces the service on you, then requires you to pay for it whether you use it or not, want it or not.

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Funny how DPRK, sorry NHK cadre, sorry again, management, keep these problems regarding collection of fees out of the national/mainstream media.

Anyone who owns a smart-phone, laptop, desktop, tablet, TV, anything that can possibly receive a signal from NHK should by law be paying, for each individual device? That's BS, sorry BS is ANOTHER friggin service of NHK, and it costs more too!

In a (cough cough) friends house, "they" have probably 15 different devices that could receive NHK's signal, "he" told me they lost count when their son moved back from college. So they are supposed to pay nearly 50,000 yen a month for NHK?

I was laughing my butt off!

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The bill cleared the House of Representatives on May 16.

Damn, the folks here are backed up nearly two weeks! Need to find people who can type faster!

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More options to consume Pravda Niponica

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No ADDITIONAL fee, but now NHK will come after anyone with an internet connection and a computer - or a smartphone and demand the current extortion, er, fee.

Any guesses on how long it will take them to start?

Exactly, didn’t see that at first thought, but you are right! By next year, anyone with a computer will be charged. You can imagine the money they must be dreaming that they will be “getting” but I can’t imagine the sheep Japan taking this lying down. Even the cellphone idea isn’t really being enforced because if it was, you would see the LDP lose big time. People are fed up with NHK and another 2,500 fee a month for a cellphone and then another for one’s computer would force a change.

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Just wait until NHK tries to get a major corporation like Toyota to pay the fee for all their employees who have a computer. They have somewhere over 200K or 300K?

The law will get changed right quick!

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“In a (cough cough) friends house, "they" have probably 15 different devices that could receive NHK's signal, "he" told me they lost count when their son moved back from college. So they are supposed to pay nearly 50,000 yen a month for NHK?”

NO. Why is it that every time there is an article related to NHK people post inaccurate comments like this? Why does it need to be repeated every time that for ordinary households the contracts are by household, not the number of devices within the household? No matter how many TVs or other receiving devices you own, you pay the same fee. There are even discounts if you have family members, such as workers assigned a position out of town or students temporarily living elsewhere. This information is available on NHK’s web site, even in English.

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In Japan, people who possess a TV set are required to pay for an NHK subscription, but the revised law does not require any additional fee.

No ADDITIONAL fee, but now NHK will come after anyone with an internet connection and a computer - or a smartphone and demand the current extortion, er, fee.

You beat me to it!!! Let's not fool ourselves. this is another way to force people to pay for the NHK. The gov and its cronies are more rotten to the core than even the worst criminals in this country.

Any guesses on how long it will take them to start?

A couple of months after NHK begins streaming. That's my bet. Expect the NHK man to come knocking.

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Just wait until NHK tries to get a major corporation like Toyota to pay the fee for all their employees who have a computer. They have somewhere over 200K or 300K?

> The law will get changed right quick!

Yes Yubaru, you're probably right. However, my guess is that work computers and work phones will get a special exemption, and that's it. The rest of us who have no lobbying power will still end up getting shafted.

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There are many devices in the household capable of streaming. We have computers, iPads and iPhones and I use all three to watch my cable TV depending on what I'm doing. Listen to the BBC News on my iPhone while baking bread.

One household, one NHK license, is you use that service.

NHK is already streaming online with both TV/news and Radio 1/2/fm.

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The broadcaster has already decided to cut the subscription fee starting in October 2020, a year after a consumption tax hike scheduled for this October.

Doesn't this mean we won't be expected to pay for NHK from October of next year?? Why is everybody complaining?

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MJ1974Today  09:18 am JST

The broadcaster has already decided to cut the subscription fee starting in October 2020, a year after a consumption tax hike scheduled for this October.

“Doesn't this mean we won't be expected to pay for NHK from October of next year?? Why is everybody complaining?”

No, it means the fee will be lowered, not eliminated. It means we will be paying less than we do now.

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So, now consumers have no excuse not to pay the extortion fees of NHK regardless of whether you watch it or not. If you have access to the internet, you have to pay. What a bunch of money-grubbing, conniving a$$holes!

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This is another tax folks

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If you have access to the internet, you have to pay.

its very easy , if they have no laws that fine you or threaten penalties for non payment then just dont pay its simple. Forcing the J governement to mandate laws to punish people for non payment wont happen, too many elderly that cant or wont pay and the J government dont want to pee of those voters. I will never pay this extortion fee until a court hearing or legal fine is presented to me for non compliance, or the fee is mandated as another tax enforced by J law. your move NHK

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@yubaru. Not true. One household, one fee.

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If you have access to the internet, you have to pay.

its very easy , if they have no laws that fine you or threaten penalties for non payment then just dont pay its simple. 

When will they start requiring internet and smartphone service providers to add an additional fee in the customer bills? Some people pay ¥1000-¥3000 for the bills. I doubt they are going to want to pay double or triple their current bill.

When will NHK force employers to remove i from their monthly salaries?

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Step one: Stop the collection service. Step two: Get directly paid by government from the taxes collected.

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People can downvote my posts all they like, whatever floats your leaky boat. Doesn’t change the fact that fees for ordinary folk are set by household, not by the number of devices owned.

wtfjapan,

“too many elderly that cant or wont pay”

There are waivers or discounts for people on welfare, who have disabilities, etc.

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NHK radio is available to anyone with a radio or from the internet. My wife uses the radio/internet for her English learning.

https://www.nhk.or.jp/radio/

FM is good for classical music.

NHK News is also available on the internet.

https://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/

There are also free apps for smart phones and tablets.

NHK TV viewing requires a digital TV, and a receiver box which were handed out free some years back. Also requires a tv aerial. I don't have any of that.

TV is a subscription from Hikari TV via Plala. Some NHK channels with basic fee but I rarely watch it.

When the NHK fee guy knocks I just tell him I don't have a TV which is true. That works.

NHK should block their signal unless users have a license but would require additional boxes to be handed out and connected. Probably too complicated for old folks.

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hahahahahahaha. No thank you. Good luck with that though! Because I know when they come to the door and I say "I don't have a tv, only a PC!" they're going to say "Well you still have to pay because you watch NHK!" To which I shall graciously slam the door in their faces!

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its very easy , if they have no laws that fine you or threaten penalties for non payment then just dont pay its simple. Forcing the J governement to mandate laws to punish people for non payment wont happen, too many elderly that cant or wont pay and the J government dont want to pee of those voters. I will never pay this extortion fee until a court hearing or legal fine is presented to me for non compliance, or the fee is mandated as another tax enforced by J law. your move NHK

WTF Japan, I agree. I also wonder why the 'law' states you must pay NHK the fee but when you buy a brand new TV from the store, the seller never mentions anything about the 'compulsory' NHK charge incurred for having the TV. The legalities of it all is very unclear. How could anybody happily pay the fee when NHK employees are embezzling the revenue earned through these subscriptions and a certain percentage of people just plainly refuse to pay it?

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business expansion could have a negative impact on private broadcasters.

Does this statement mean that NHK can stream live content, but the other (private) broadcasters cannot? That does seem a little strange.

Japan has advanced 4K and 8K TV, but has been held back with live streaming because of the restrictions of the broadcast law. Hopefully now not only NHK but everyone will be able to stream their programs.

It will also be interesting to see how NHK will chose to handle restricting viewership from outside of Japan.

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Backdoor for imposing charges huh :(

PMJ1974 - when you buy TV you can find several leaflets in the box that say you have to pay NHK the fees. Also if you have BS antena and watch NHK BS channels there is semi transparent warning you should call and subscribe with the additional fee.

I wonder why they just don't include a small loyalty fee in the price of the TV-receiving sets like it's done for the DVD standard or the recordable CDs ? I guess the industry will strongly oppose though...

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when you buy a brand new TV from the store, the seller never mentions anything about the 'compulsory' NHK charge incurred for having the TV.

Every shop I've ever bought a TV set from has asked if we already had NHK charges set up. Granted they didn't demand proof of payment, but it isn't the case that it wasn't mentioned at all.

too many elderly that cant or wont pay

There are exemptions for them wot can't afford it - those on welfare, those earning too little to pay income tax, students from low-income families, those with physical/mental/learning disabilities, those who are sight/hearing impaired, etc.

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Why does it need to be repeated every time that for ordinary households the contracts are by household, not the number of devices within the household? No matter how many TVs or other receiving devices you own, you pay the same fee. There are even discounts if you have family members, such as workers assigned a position out of town or students temporarily living elsewhere. This information is available on NHK’s web site, even in English.

The English site only states about TV's in the household and there is no specification regarding other devices. Per a recent court case where a man was forced to pay the NHK fees by a court because of his vehicle having the capability of receiving their TV signal.

The law, again, only states that TV's and there is no mention of anything regarding "other" devices!

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Related court cases:

Dec 2017 

Supreme Court rules television owners legally required to sign up and pay fee. 

Aug 2018

Supreme Court rules resident of rented room with a TV must sign a contract and pay monthly fees as long as the resident has exclusive use of the TV.

Mar 2019

Supreme Court finalizes rulings ordering owners of cellphones with TV functions to pay fees. 

May 2019

Tokyo court orders owner of car with navigation system capable of tv reception to pay.

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Article 64 of the Broadcast Law

(Receiving Contract and Receiving Fee)

ARTICLE 64. Any person who has installed receiving equipment

capable of receiving the broadcasting provided by NHK shall conclude a

contract with NHK with regard to the reception of its broadcasting.

However, this shall not apply to those who have installed receiving

equipment not intended for the reception of broadcasting, or receiving

equipment solely for the reception of radio broadcasting or multiplex

broadcasting (broadcasting of voice and other sound transmissions not

coming under television broadcasting and multiplex broadcasting

classifications; the same shall apply to Article 126 paragraph 1).

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第六十四条 協会の放送を受信することのできる受信設備を設置した者は、協会とその放送の受信についての契約をしなければならない。ただし、放送の受信を目的としない受信設備又はラジオ放送(音声その他の音響を送る放送であつて、テレビジョン放送及び多重放送に該当しないものをいう。第百二十六条第一項において同じ。)若しくは多重放送に限り受信することのできる受信設備のみを設置した者については、この限りでない。

Note that neither the Japanese, nor the English versions specify that the equipment/device must be a TV.

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Dec 2017 

Supreme Court rules television owners legally required to sign up and pay fee.

The Supreme Court made this ruling but they still cannot compel you to sign a contract that you do not agree with. If you refuse to sign the contract there is nothing they can do and no obligation to pay anything.

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Osaka_Doug I am not sure about any restrictions of streaming because the broadcast law.

I'm aware that the program owners are restricting live streaming depending on the rights. For example if the rights for French Open are bought by Wowow no other broadcaster can air or stream live!

I remember there was basketball world cup in Japan several years ago and I couldn't find even news on it because probably only SkyPerfect had the rights...

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No, it means the fee will be lowered, not eliminated. It means we will be paying less than we do now.

I think they will lower by 100yen a month or less....but peasants should be ever grateful.

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The Supreme Court made this ruling but they still cannot compel you to sign a contract that you do not agree with. If you refuse to sign the contract there is nothing they can do and no obligation to pay anything.

exactly , its the government job to make laws enforced with punishments , same as taxation. if you live in Japan you can never avoid consumption & taxation, but you can avoid NHK broadcast. If you don't consume a NHK product them then you should never agree to their conscriptions.

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What people are being compelled to pay for:

NHK apologizes for fabricated documentary on renting friends

THE ASAHI SHIMBUN

May 30, 2019 at 15:40 JSThttp://www.asahi.com/ajw/articles/AJ201905300046.html

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"subscription" is not the correct term to use for NHK.

That's not the correct term. "Contract" is not the correct term.

The correct term is "an offer you can't refuse".

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99% of Japanese TV is so boring, the 1% that's interesting isn't on NHK and it's simply those stupid activity TV Shows.

NHK International as made available via Cable, is just as bad, just listening to their English presentations is like driving a car that stop/starts throughout the entire journey, or fingernails being dragged down a chalk board.... You may as well get Microsoft Sam to read the newstories, or "Talking Tom"...

Also, NHK can't promote themselves as a Service to the Foreign Community, as their information during disasters is either out of date, or simply wrong - 2011 was good example.

Does anyone actually watch NHK ?

To me, this is just another Government Tax - but one that has been disguised as being a fee for having access to a rubbish Service.

One day, I hope, broadcasting Laws will modernize and allow users from anywhere in the World to subscribe to a provider anywhere else in the World. At present, you aren't allowed to circumvent local distributors of media. Though I doubt this will ever happen, as Japan has airbrushing laws to blur parts of the body during nude scenes..... Trump should latch onto this as a Protection racket.... and if he did that, then maybe just maybe we'd start seeing a new Global revolution in media provision without local restrictions, forcing the Dinosaurs such as NHK to produce decent content. Dream talk...

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NHK International as made available via Cable, is just as bad, just listening to their English presentations is like driving a car that stop/starts throughout the entire journey, or fingernails being dragged down a chalk board.... You may as well get Microsoft Sam to read the newstories, or "Talking Tom"...

by your own comment, the NHK presentators speak better English than you speak and write Japanese.

NHK were airborne and live 5 minutes following the Tohoku earthquake bring essential news and info live including showing the arrival of the tsunami.

The majority of the country watch NHK.

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