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The government has set up funds worth 30 billion yen ($206 million) to overcome any reputational damage and 50 billion yen to ease potential economic damage and support local fishermen in sustaining their businesses.

Sustaining business? No, it will be just massive subsidy from the day they release the water.

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That’s a lot of water from the 3 full meltdowns.

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nosuke

That’s a lot of water from the 3 full meltdowns.

You need to read up.

There were no full meltdowns. The corium must be cooled 24/7. The water leaks out into the reactor basements and mixtures with underground water increasing the volume of contaminated water. Then it's pumped out for cleaning with the Alps system and placed in the storage tanks. Perpetual motion.

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Well-stuffed brown envelope to be passed under a table, fishermen's union reluctantly agrees all is well with the release of tons of poison.

Japanese taxpayer picks up the tab for decades of subsidies to Japanese fishing industry.

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Fumio Kishida? Hoping to Gain? Understanding? Of Release of Nuclear Waste Water? Into The Largest Ocean On Earth? Can Anyone? On Planet Earth ? Understand ? Fumio Kishida ! The Prime MInister of Japan? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

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The government has set up funds worth 30 billion yen ($206 million) to overcome any reputational damage and 50 billion yen to ease potential economic damage and support local fishermen in sustaining their businesses.

Ah, finally there is a number. It was always going to happen. Pay them off, just like the people were paid off handsomely to host the nuclear plants.

-4 ( +3 / -7 )

Popularity so low he now have to do what he should have done a year ago.

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Posters that talk about brown envelopes are so last century.

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The taxpayer costs of the nuclear disaster site will be ¥80-¥100 trillion.

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TEPCO spent ¥30 billion of taxpayer money constructing the ice wall around the reactor buildings.

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Kishida will tell them to put more wasabi on their fish while his government puts balm on their wounds and bandages them with subsidies.

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There were no full meltdowns

There were full meltdowns. The nuclear fuel rods completely melted, formed a corium which went through the pressure vessels and it’s believed that some parts of it sit at the bottom of the containment vessel and the rest went through the containment vessel itself and ended at the bottom of the building structure. No fuel rods are believed to be present in any shape or form inside the pressure vessels hence a full meltdown occurred on all operating reactors. The rods in the cooling pools of the reactor 4 have also melted and sinked at the bottom of the pools.

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It doesn't matter anymore, the reputation of Japan is tarnished no matter what happens now. The meltdowns were caused by incompetance and or corruption. Not by the Tsunami alone. The damange is done.

Now what we're left with is a "low effort" outcome, treated water containing god knows what (I bet some other trash besides just tritium ended up in the water, solvents etc) will be released into the ocean because it's the only solution they bothered to come up with.

I'm not saying it's safe or unsafe, I'm just referring to the PR disaster this is if the water is discharged.

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...let' face it, most of us will wonder if our next Sushi set is from the Fukishima are or not. I know I'd prefer not to mess with it...

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The inscription laid out on the famous Georgia guidestone states

Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.

The water release is helping

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Don't know why the fishery group have to pay for TEPCO's negligence.

All fisheries and food exportation companies should sue TEPCO for wrongful conduct and interference of business.

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Just release it already, and get it over with since that what you are gonna do anyway despite any opposition.

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Posters that talk about brown envelopes are so last century.

Nah they will be sure to use cash as they have always done: carefully prepared crisp, new 10,000 yen dominations put into large brown envelopes. Not suspicious and leaves no trail.

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Did you know tritium is worth between $24,000 - $30,000 a gram?

There is a commercial market for tritium to be used in luminous watches and signs, medical isotopes, and research laboratories.

Why can't they open it up to private companies to process the water rather than just dump it in the ocean?

There is the Palladium Membrane Reactor Isotope Separation System that has been developed specifically to extract tritium

This technology eliminates all pollution and it also recovers tritium for storage and future use.

It doesn't seem to make a lot of sense to just dump it in the ocean.

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Reputation has already been affected. China is hindering imports already and Korea will always complain.

Not releasing the water will not improve reputation. Neither the Chinese, nor Korean markets will suddenly open up, so what's the point?

Releasing the water as planned is in the best interest of Japan to move forward in the long, difficult road of managing the collected water, and the more difficult task of decommissioning the plant.

We have to deal with the real-world circumstances. Going back in time and rehashing the old doesn't solve the problems of today.

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@James

Why can't they open it up to private companies to process the water rather than just dump it in the ocean?

Because Fukushima radioactive waste water is still contaminated with Plutonium, Cesium, Strontium, etc and these cannot be fully filtered out, ALPS processed water still contain them.

What Japanese government doesn't tell you is that the reason Japan's neighbors oppose the release of Fukushima radioactive waste water is because of Plutonium, Cesium, and Strontium, not Tritium.

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@Roy Sophveason

oftentimes even beneath the detection threshold, confirmed by seven independent laboratories.

Then why won't Japan let China and Korea independently test and verify each tank of processed waste water before release? What's Japan hiding?

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From what I have been reading options have now run out, no magic wand to wave the treated radioactive water from the Fukushima nuclear plant away.

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There are also people here spreading rumors that it still contains radioactive substances other than tritium, even though the contaminated water is being further treated and released in the first place.

If there is no reputational damage in China or South Korea, there is no need to pay a deposit or compensation.

There is no scientific objection to the data provided by the IAEA and scientists from various countries, and China and South Korea are only emotionally opposed, so the harmful rumors about Fukushima cannot be contained.

The EU and other countries have lifted the ban on the import of marine products from Fukushima, but only China and South Korea are going against this and obstructing the economic activities of Fukushima fishermen.

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Did you know tritium is worth between $24,000 - $30,000 a gram?

And what is the cost of extracting a gram of tritium from tritiated water that contains the tritium concentration of the water at the Fukushima Daiichi plant?

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And what is the cost of extracting a gram of tritium from tritiated water that contains the tritium concentration of the water at the Fukushima Daiichi plant?

TEPCO is so incompetent that they don't even know.

The official response from TEPCO is that is not possible to filter out Tritium.

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And what is the cost of extracting a gram of tritium from tritiated water that contains the tritium concentration of the water at the Fukushima Daiichi plant?

No idea, but if what Roy Sophveason says is true then

But if you do the math, at 3.57×10^14 Bq/g those 22 TBq/a only amount to about 0.06 grams.

Probably isn't worth it.

At levels way below any national or international discharge limits for industrial waste water, oftentimes even beneath the detection threshold, confirmed by seven independent laboratories.

This pdf from greenpeace made for an interesting read although a little outdated now but I can't not wonder about Carbon-14 how much is actually in the treated water and how big a concern is it?

https://www.greenpeace.org/static/planet4-japan-stateless/2020/10/5e303093-greenpeace_stemmingthetide2020_fukushima_radioactive_water_crisis_en_final.pdf

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