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Stephen Chin
Seas & Oceans Are For The World's Ships To Sail In Or Out.
diagonalslip
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Fighto!
Typical Communist China behaviour - thumbing their nose at rules and order, and antagonising her neighbors deliberately.
And the PRC have the hide to wonder why Japan needs to build up her defenses and alliances.
Haaa Nemui
So when the U.S. navy sails through international waters in the South China Sea (not territorial waters as was the case here) what are the Chinese complaining about?
englisc aspyrgend
Time for Japan to react in a measured military way instead of protests which are treated with contempt and ignored by China. Perhaps SSM on the islands and turn on the targeting radar when they enter territorial waters.
Mr Kipling
These are disputed islands which China recognises as Chinese territory.
Guess what? When Japanese coast guard ships sail there, China complains.
All just a game.
Michael Machida
Conveying strong concern does not guarantee behavior change in all cases.
Countries like China may resist or dismiss the concerns expressed, especially if they feel threatened or perceive the concern as unwarranted.
Factors such as cultural norms, and motivation can also influence the receptiveness to change.
deanzaZZR
Japan's territorial waters or something else?
Soul Sister
And that includes the Taiwan straight.
Soul Sister
And in return Japan is going to strangle China's chip industry.
JboneInTheZone
You were commenting on an article the other day complaining about how US ships shouldn’t be sailing through the strait of Taiwan. I find it really funny how you change your tune so quickly when China is being aggressive
ian
Just sop. Need to raise protest officially
deanzaZZR
It was? Do you have confirmation that these ships were in Japanese territorial waters? I looked at the Japanese language Mainichi and Yomiuri sites and found nothing about this incident.
JboneInTheZone
A simple google search will turn up multiple articles confirming it
Marc Lowe
Well, it's been almost 78 years since China's Chiang Kai-shek defeated Japanese aggressors in the Second Sino-Japanese War. Maybe the communists still hold a grudge and want to test Japan by continually sailing into her waters and flying thru her airspace. The article is a tad confusing because it mentions:
Now, if it attempted to approach, it would seem that it did not approach. Somehow I don't think a Japanese fishing vessel could deter an approach of Coast Guard vessels from any country. Harpoons and water hoses are no match for machine guns.
Hirokazu Matsuno is the guy who both denies the existence of comfort women and wants to revise Kono's and Murayama's declarations recognizing Japan's wat crimes.
Somehow I don't think he will give CCP a fair shake when it comes to Sino-Japanese errors on the sea or in the air. He might be the catalyst for another Sino-Japanese war.
xin xin
Giving the CCP a fair shake? That should mean teaching it a lesson till it cry uncle. Look what beastly things it did to its own people re 1989 June 4 and even now.
JboneInTheZone
theFu
Rather than complain, Japan should arrest them, hold the vessel and the crew until China apologizes.
Wouldn't hurt to rip the ship apart, like China did to the EP-3 aircraft they hit in 2001, forcing a landing in China. the EP-3 was flying 70 miles away from any Chinese land, clearly in international airspace.
The same should be done to the captured Chinese Coast Guard ships.
deanzaZZR
@theFu lol. Everyone has GPS. We are talking about a meter or two here and both will have data to back up their claim.
wolfshine
China doesn't fear Japan at all. They don't respect Japan. That's why they continue to antagonize Japan like this. Because Japan's foreign policy is aimless. Sucking up to Western European powers and paying Zelenskyy lip service accomplishes nothing. Meanwhile they're endlessly mulling over whether to support or condemn America's military presence in Okinawa.
Japan needs to build a real armed forces and establish military partnerships with other countries nearby like India and Vietnam.
nandakandamanda
These ships come in real close while they are laser mapping the sea floor around the Japanese islands, often during the night. Not the first time and it won't be the last.
中国海軍の測量艦 = Chinese Navy Survey Vessel
【速報】中国海軍の測量艦が屋久島付近の領海に侵入、今回で11回目 (TBS NEWS DIG Powered by JNN) - Yahoo!ニュース
nandakandamanda
Apparently the route past Yakushima is chosen for passage of Chinese subs out to the Pacific because the Kuroshio and extreme changes in water temperature there make echo-location difficult.
「中国測量艦の領海侵入1年で5回」毎回なぜ鹿児島・屋久島沖ばかり?専門家に聞いてみると | TBS NEWS DIG (1ページ)
quercetum
They've done it 11 times already. Obviously Japan is in the weaker position and the US isn’t doing anything about it.
Jandworld
So there is need for the military airstrip to be build on Mageshima, opposed by locals for a few decades?
While called ‘proposed site for a practice shooting range’ until recently.
A no one's living on island overlooked by a town on Tanegashima.
Peter14
Round and round the mulberry bush. China sails in Japanese waters whenever it likes. China harassing Japanese fishing boats in Japanese waters. China complains when other nations sail in international waters.
The Chinese message to the world is simple and straight forward. China can sail anywhere at its pleasure, but China expects others to do as China tells them, about not sailing in international waters in the South China sea, in the Taiwan straight and elsewhere China wants to control totally. A set of rules for everyone but China, and no rules for China.
And China does not seem to understand why other nations refuse to view China as a leader, and see it instead as a belligerent and hostile nation. They probably also cant see the seething unrest in the Chinese population, and write it off for different reasons as being of no great concern.
China has serious problems and all of them are internal centering around the CCP. It will eventually come to a head, when many in the CCP may lose theirs (heads).
theFu
Perhaps you don't know that GPS can be spoofed to lie? That's a real thing and all modern Armies and Navies practice doing it. When it happens to you, it can be subtle or obvious. Additionally, China has their own GPS because they use a different model for the Earth than others like Russia and the USA GPS systems.
Actually, they do see the dissatisfaction, but the CCP passed a law to make complaining or even to show facts illegal. Posting "news" by non-state entities if illegal in China. So, anyone posting (text, photos, videos) that show anything the CCP doesn't want shown can go to jail now. The flooding in their new 4.1km tunnel is an example. Brand new tunnel, opened this week. Already has serious (0.5m) water in it. And it wasn't a slow leak. The people who posted video risked their lives doing so. Literally.
Yep.
25psot
Chinese and Japanese are like brothers, should forgive, not fight.
voiceofokinawa
There seems no choice for the Chinese Navy ship to infringe upon Japan's territorial waters. The Chinese ship must have been engaged in surveying ocean floors near Yakushima for their submarines to navigate there submerged safely.
Why shouldn't a littoral country be internationally open for its surrounding ocean floors for the safe navigation of ships of any origin just as air space is internationally open for the safe flight of aircraft of any origin?