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Japan to boost financial incentives for clinics to give COVID-19 shots

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The move comes as the country rushes to ramp up its sluggish inoculation program

LOL

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So for giving 50 shots a day I get paid 350,000+ yen/day, a monthly wage for an average Japanese.

Sign me up, I'm in.

I just had my first shot. It took all of 3 seconds. I could easily do the 50 by lunch time.

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Typical neo-liberal governance. First out-source the country's medical services and gut the community health programmes, in the name of lower-cost efficiency, and then use greater amounts of tax funding to hire private services.

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So all clinics can administer the covid vaccine, but not so many are doing so.

Hopefully the additional incentives will encourage more to do so

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I'm all for ramping up the vaccine roll out, but as many people have said, why wasn't this planned before? The Japanese government has just bungled this whole thing, and are trying to make an effort now to save the Olympics. Why aren't the JDF also inoculating people?

Also, I don't really like the way they report the vaccinated people with 5% first, because that is only people who have the first shot. In my opinion, they should write the fully vaccinated numbers first then the partially ones. It gives a false sense of the numbers.

Lastly, I wish they would give the AZ vaccine as an option here instead of keeping it locked up and not administering it. Just tell people about the blood clot risks, then let them decide.

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So months and months of meetings and discussions only to decide to do what was obvious from the beginning?

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Finally ! Just pay the parasites !

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LetLawsonsDoIt

I am sure they would do it for 500 yen a jab

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100 or more shots per week over a span of four weeks, and to 5,070 yen for those that give 150 or more shots.

Living in the urban bubble, they just don’t understand that so many single-doctor clinics cannot do 100 a week. The paperwork alone is strangling the clinics

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The next big question is what will they do with the money ? It s about 5B USD isn't it . I doubt the quasi doctors in Japan will start buying Chinese cars.

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See, now we are talking.

Use tax money for the benefit of vaxxing the population.

Not for giant squids and girl bars.

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The problem isn't the money paid to doctors, my local doctor has been ready and waiting, so have several out clinics he knows.

The problem is the complicated government system for allocating Vaccine, booking system, or just plain getting the need documents to get vaccinated.

All the clinics near my place are well set up to give Vaccine do it every year for influenza.

But they have heard nothing from the ward office or national government after offering their services.

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@n1k1

No, it is about $10 billion because 2 shots are needed.

This windfall goes mainly to the private medical sector whose only contribution to the pandemic so far has been to refuse to treat Covid patients. Parasites indeed, as people suffer and die at home.

Thanks to vaccine czar Kono there will be plenty of funding for the LDP's next election.

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We live in a small town well away from the big cities. My mother-in-law in her 80’s finally yesterday found a clinic locally were she can get a jab. She is on the list and told her the 1st jab could be mid July, hopefully.

To me, it almost sounds like you have problems getting the vaccine in local clinics if you have been healthy and not needed to visit them recently. This may well be because a number of the local clinics and small hospitals only have 1 or 2 doctors.

Maybe to help speed up the vaccine process, the pharmacist checks the patients health form before the nurse gives the vaccine. After all, all the clinics and hospitals have a pharmacy in the car park or across the road linked to them.

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I honestly cannot get over all of the red tape for who can give a shot, when and where. The university I work at has two full-time registered nurses working on campus. Why can't the gov't just drop of a couple of cases of vaccines and syringes and let them take care of al the faculty and staff? They are qualified professionals and could get it done in 2 ~ 3 days. There is a huge Red Cross blood center down the street. Why isn't it being used as a vaccination site? There are doctors and nurses working there, it is a sterile environment and sticking folks with needles is kind of their thing. They do it to me three times a year. Let the people who can give shots, give shots at places that are convenient.

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How about some financial incentives for the avearge Taro to take the vaccine like overseas?

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I just left my doctor's office to renew my prescriptions.

He is completely confused about this.

He charges ¥2,500 to give the influenza vaccine this includes the cost of the vaccine

He said ¥2,070 just to give the shot was a good payment considering the covid Vaccine is supplied for free.

The problem is he and his other colleagues haven't been given any Vaccine despite having the needed facilities and being willing to do it even at the original ¥2,070.

His reception is fielding calls every day asking when or how his patients can get the vaccine.

He gives over 1,000 influenza vaccines each season and estimates 90% of those are ready and willing to get the covid Vaccine.

He doesn't understand the whole registration process, patients have they national healthcare card age is on it, billing system can be used to track those that have been vaccinated and his staff is perfectly capable of setting up appointments for both shots.

He doesn't speak English but does speak French and used a French expression to describe this as basically trying to divert attention and blame.

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How about some financial incentives for the avearge Taro to take the vaccine like overseas?

How about just making the vaccine available!

Everyone I know is willing and waiting, no "incentive" needed just get us the vaccine!

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He doesn't speak English but does speak French and used a French expression to describe this as basically trying to divert attention and blame.

We have discussed this a long time ago. Nothing has to be setup except distribution system, vaccination system is already in place and can be used as is, should be very efficient.

But there's no money to be made that way.

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basically trying to divert attention and blame.

They finally decided that they need the clinics now.

The additional incentive is needed to explain "why the clinics are helping now" and not before.

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I honestly cannot get over all of the red tape for who can give a shot, when and where. The university I work at has two full-time registered nurses working on campus. Why can't the gov't just drop of a couple of cases of vaccines and syringes and let them take care of al the faculty and staff? They are qualified professionals and could get it done in 2 ~ 3 days. There is a huge Red Cross blood center down the street. Why isn't it being used as a vaccination site? There are doctors and nurses working there, it is a sterile environment and sticking folks with needles is kind of their thing. They do it to me three times a year. Let the people who can give shots, give shots at places that are convenient.

Ideally each local government would just "get it done".

But in reality they are all dragging their feet, so Kono and company have to come up with other ways to meet their targets.

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There that should complete the picture. I don't wanna do this supposition thing but might as well now since you confirmed that the clinics are willing and ready

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If all the private clinics are ready and willing, there's no shortage of people to administer the vaccines.

Everyone of us who has visited a clinic since the vaccines were delivered should have been vaccinated by now.

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They are slow to get started as usual but once more private clinics start doing the vaccinations there should be a snowball effect. With the flu, I remember they were giving entire families the vaccine at a local pediatric clinic. They are also talking about giving the covid vaccine at workplaces, like they do with the health examinations.

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Everyone of us who has visited a clinic since the vaccines were delivered should have been vaccinated by now.

80% of my local doctor's patients are over 65, he also still does house calls between 12:30 and 14:30 and late into the evening/night ( see him regularly coming or going from bedridden people's home as late as midnight.

All he wants is the vaccine to give them, he is a strange bird, I wouldn't say he is the best doctor but for the basic needs he is good and cares about his patients.

At this point he is beyond frustrated in the ineptitude of the government.

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With the flu, I remember they were giving entire families the vaccine at a local pediatric clinic. They are also talking about giving the covid vaccine at workplaces, like they do with the health examinations.

That's what I had mistakenly thought they were gonna do from the very beginning.

Vaccinate like usual, only withcovid vaccine instead of flu.

Should have been very fast and efficient

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With the flu, I remember they were giving entire families the vaccine at a local pediatric clinic.

The local small hospital near us was told this was what was going to happen, they even received a small deep freezer.

Then suddenly they were told this would not happen and the ward collected the deep freezer, they haven't heard anything since.

They are also talking about giving the covid vaccine at workplaces, like they do with the health examinations.

This was offered months ago by several of the companies that do large corporation's health checks, flu vaccinations, etc...

People I know and the company that provides these services to my wife's company told us the government said they did not need their services.

Now looks like an about-face by the incompetent government.

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Aside from distribution, main problem is the centralized appointment system.

Clinics have their own individual such systems.

And as these clinics will primarily serve their own established patient base the required paperwork will be kept to a minimum.

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But they chose to build another system from the ground up

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But they chose to build another system from the ground up

The province in my home country known for generally over spending and making a mess of things, is the province that did the best in getting the vaccine to the people.

They purchased a readily available commercially appointment Software/App the same one they use for influenza l, it was up and running in a few weeks without any bugs or problems because it has been around for years and was cheap.

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Won't help. That is not the bottleneck. The bottleneck is the centralized distribution, logistics, and appointment system run by the government.

Clinics, etc. cannot vaccinate people if they cannot receive the shipments and cannot obtain appointments.

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They purchased a readily available commercially appointment Software/App the same one they use for influenza l, it was up and running in a few weeks without any bugs or problems because it has been around for years and was cheap.

Many if not most clinics alreafy have similar online appointment systems but I don't think they even need those, whatever they have now would be good enough since they'll just be mainly serving same people.

In any case what I meant by system was the whole system for covid vaccinations.

The govt didn't need to setup a new appointment system and vaccination centers, they just have to distribute the vaccines to all the clinics and hospitals like they always do with all other vaccines

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It's about time (and four months too late).

China is vaccinating 14 million people a day and the aim to get to 20 million.

If Japan did that, the entire country could be vaccinated in less than two weeks.

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It is already decided it will be extended and then finish at an opportune time before the Olympics and so that it will not be reinstated before the Olympics end.

the experts are trying to work out the best date for this. Obviously a SOE at the time of the Olympics cannot be allowed. Expect record low testing to support this.

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If it is just a distribution logistics problem, as many have written above, then why does Kono have to up the ante to 5000 yen per shot?

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@Ian

Yes I get that here in Japan because "Only" doctors can give the vaccine and nurses within a hospital environment on doctor's orders.

In this province of my country clinics hospitals, private doctors offices and pharmacies all can give the vaccine.

So they register with the government their availability and people just pick the best location and time for them.

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The Japanese government will boost financial incentives for clinics to administer COVID-19 vaccines

Why not just deregulate the whole thing and let the free market so it’s thing.

I’d pay more than that myself to get a dose ASAP.

and consider expanding the pool of medical professionals allowed to give the shots

So how about letting us grownups decide for ourselves?

I don’t give a hoot who the government thinks should be allowed to jab a vaccine into my arm, it’s MY body.

This whole thing is there to protect vested interests, I can’t see any other reason for it.

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Nurses give vaccinations on doctors instructions and take blood samples.

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@AntiqueSaver

Me thinks you are from la belle province. I logged onto their web page a few weeks ago and after about 3 clicks I was offered a shot the following day at my nearest pharmacy.

Canada is a vast sparsely populated country and the army is in charge of the large scale distribution logistics. The kind of thing they are trained to do and very good at. Jabbing someone in the arm, anyone can do.

At the other end of the scale, my local clinic in Kyoto received one bottle, vaccinated 6 people, and called it a day. Luckily I was one of them. No freezer necessary.

LetLawsonsDoIt
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The standard dose per heath worker over a 8 hour shift is 90 for astrazenica. That about 1 dose per patient every 5 min on average. The process go like this. Each file as 30 doses, the health work breaks open 30 needles out of the packaging then place them on the service tray in front of them. Then the health work exacts one dose from the file placing the fill needle back on the tray and picks up another needle until the file is finished (30 doses ). Then the tray is place back into the fridge.next to their station This is done 3 times per shift. Now she is ready to vaccinate a patient. Now with-in this 5 min average the health worker come across people wanting to ask questions and the health work has to know and give the correct answer. with assurance. Then you have old people who move very slow and can not hear. Then you get a person who ask no question just sit down roll up his sleeve get a jab then move on. There are multiplies of veritable that can make a vaccination last 10 minutes. That about 50 to 60 vaccination in a shift.

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Great idea, except, if your information is not censored, side effects and deaths from vaccines are increasing...so a real doctor must be present.

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Hate to say it! but In Japan everything is Transactional.

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Correction: A file of Astrazenica contains 10 doses. That transfer to 10 needles that can prepared each time a file is take out of refrigeration.

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Really pharmacists to monitor people who get shots. Why not get the pharmacists to give the shots already...

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