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Authorities say Nigerian died of starvation after immigration hunger strike

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if you die of a hunger strike that would be suicide

5 ( +20 / -15 )

Apparently the Jaoanese authorities have never heard of a feeding tube. (No, I don't know this for a fact, which is why I started the sentence with "apparently.")

-7 ( +8 / -15 )

if you die of a hunger strike that would be suicide

No. Please review the definition of suicide and compare it to the goal of a hunger strike. You will then see the error of your opinion.

-8 ( +14 / -22 )

if you die of a hunger strike that would be suicide

A cruel vision of humanity you portray. A man do in fear of being sent back to Nigeria that he starves to death while the Japanese wheels of judiciary refuse to let someone in - someone so terrified that they would die rather than be deported.

And you have a flippant comment that he committed suicide. Sounds like what some sociopath like Trump would say.

-7 ( +12 / -19 )

Sad but that was his choice. He was a convicted criminal so I have no sympathy for his plight in protesting what was a justifiable move by Japanese authorities.

-2 ( +15 / -17 )

Sad but that was his choice. He was a convicted criminal so I have no sympathy for his plight in protesting what was a justifiable move by Japanese authorities.

Agreed that the Japanese detaining and trying to deport him was justifiable; however, the way they did so is indefensible.

4 ( +13 / -9 )

If the Nigerian man was given an extradition order, why did the Immigration authorities keep him in detention instead of simply deporting him? We need more information on this case before criticizing the authorities for human rights violations.

16 ( +17 / -1 )

A man do in fear of being sent back to Nigeria

There's no indication in the article that he was seeking asylum or in fear of being sent back to Nigeria. He may have just been a standard foreign criminal trying to fight a deportation order after serving his sentence.

12 ( +15 / -3 )

This would not happen in other ‘modern’ countries. They would be force fed before they died. But, a foreigner in a Japanese lock up? No such luck. They just watched him die.

-2 ( +9 / -11 )

Don't come to Japan and make crimes, that guy paid a high price, go to Europe..

-6 ( +10 / -16 )

This would not happen in other ‘modern’ countries.

Japan is not a modern country

1 ( +15 / -14 )

Do the hustleToday  08:11 am JST

They just watched him die.

You don't know that.

Many are quick to portray the criminal as a poor mistreated person when there's just as much chance he could've tried to repeatedly assault an officer who tried to feed him.

0 ( +12 / -12 )

He made his choices.

4 ( +14 / -10 )

The man entered Japan in 2000 and was convicted of crimes including theft, the daily said.

We have no idea what crimes and of what theft.

The man is conveniently unnamed so any chance to reflect adequately on ‘real’ facts is lost.

Being in detention for three years is a prison sentence-I too would severely resent my loss of freedom which could lead to such an extreme outcome as seen in this case!

3 ( +10 / -7 )

If the Nigerian man was given an extradition order, why did the Immigration authorities keep him in detention instead of simply deporting him?

the detainee is responsible for paying for the flight home. either his gov't or family will have to foot the bill. if anyone is responsible for this man's death then it's the nigerian gov't's fault, not the japanese gov't's.

-3 ( +6 / -9 )

He made his choices. He came illegally and a convicted criminal..the consequences of his actions.

5 ( +15 / -10 )

I think he was married to a Japanese but divorced but claiming he should be allowed to stay because of family. He refused to be deported.

3 ( +7 / -4 )

There's not enough information to judge one way or the other.

But the loss of a human life is a tragedy and all measures should be taken to prevent such a thing happening again.

3 ( +6 / -3 )

A person should have the right to choose how they die.

I would never force feed anyone.

I've seen starvation in a family member with cancer up close and personal until the end. Takes about 3 weeks, if you drink water. It is not a good way to die and I would never choose that method myself.

Perhaps the better choice would have been to deport him with some North Korean fishermen caught in the wrong waters?

1 ( +5 / -4 )

The law should be changed allowing for people to be deported. The costs of the flights will be less than the costs of detention.

8 ( +10 / -2 )

The Asahi Shimbun daily reported that the man had lost 13 kilograms over the approximately three weeks since officials noticed he was on a hunger strike.

Okay, quick maths.

1 kilo = 7,200 calories

x13 = 93,600 calories lost

93,600 / 21 = 4,457 calories per day.

The recommended daily calorie intake for men is 2,500 (too many in my opinion), so evening this guy was on hunger strike there is no way he lost 13 kilos over three weeks.

-1 ( +4 / -5 )

This would not happen in other ‘modern’ countries. They would be force fed before they died.

Nope. In the UK unless courts rule they did not have the mental capacity to make decisions you cannot 'force feed a person.

The timeline here is off - starved to death in three weeks? He must have been pretty physically frail to start with. And the authorities say they only 'noticed' he wasn't eating three weeks ago - there job is to ensure the well being of detainees - they should have been aware much sooner.

0 ( +4 / -4 )

The recommended daily calorie intake for men is 2,500 (too many in my opinion), so evening this guy was on hunger strike there is no way he lost 13 kilos over three weeks.

What are you basing that calorie number on?

Most weight loss in the first few days of fast is from fluid loss, but his loss isn't unusually high for fasting.

0 ( +3 / -3 )

I applaud this brother for having chosen his "way"/in total defiance over the legitima

-3 ( +2 / -5 )

Siding with the authorities on this just looks like trolling to me. For all we know his theft conviction was based on finding and using a clearly abandoned bicycle....or some other inane thing. And he served his time. He was in detention/jail for 3 solid years, held without charges or trial and no bail either.

And we should have heard about his hunger strike weeks ago.

3 ( +8 / -5 )

Don't come to Japan and make crimes

Yes, that market is already extensively covered domestically. No labor shortage in that sector.

3 ( +8 / -5 )

This man made the mistake of thinking the Japanese authorities and public cared whether he lived or died.

8 ( +9 / -1 )

"It was the 14th death in Japanese immigration detention facilities since 2007, according to the Japan Federation of Bar Associations." There should be an international inquest into the reasons for this. You can bet that there have been no caucasians among the dead.

-6 ( +1 / -7 )

There's no indication in the article that he was seeking asylum or in fear of being sent back to Nigeria. He may have just been a standard foreign criminal trying to fight a deportation order after serving his sentence.

Just came back from the Immigration here. Visited a few detainees this morning. 90% (or more) are people who once had a visa and all the opportunities to succeed and make a life in Japan but instead chose to commit crimes, such as robbery, scamming and other minor drug offenses. It's extremely rare to meet a real asylum-seeking refugee and I go there every couple of months.

4 ( +7 / -3 )

Why was he locked up for 3 years? Just put him on a plane home

3 ( +5 / -2 )

As Japan has no concept of duty of care (despite all the International Treaties Japan signs) he probably died of neglect.

1 ( +4 / -3 )

Zero sympathy for the guy. If he wants to commit suicide, that is up to him.

0 ( +5 / -5 )

What was he protesting? He is a criminal, came as visitor, commited crimes warranting jail and was asked to leave... and then declined food? Was he expecting to be let out to continue commit crimes?

The only complaint I have is that really authorities should allow only one deportation order appeal and then ship em forcefully.

3 ( +5 / -2 )

Dear Norman, theft is theft... he is lucky he wasnt arrested in SAE, or he could have lost his hand which is really want thieves should pay.

-1 ( +3 / -4 )

Dear Norman, theft is theft... he is lucky he wasnt arrested in SAE, or he could have lost his hand which is really want thieves should pay.

Given that he's dead, I hardly see that her should be considered "lucky".

Saudi punishments are disgusting and based on iron age myths.

3 ( +4 / -1 )

Bravo bro!! Better die before illegitimate dehumanization.

0 ( +2 / -2 )

In all these instances , it's the deafening silence from African embassies thats unsettling.

2 ( +4 / -2 )

Japan's hidden darkness: Deaths, inhumane treatment rife at immigration centers

https://mainichi.jp/english/articles/20190709/p2a/00m/0fe/012000c

0 ( +3 / -3 )

The timelines don't work out though. A human body can survive for around 6-8 weeks without food. So someone dying in 3 weeks of starvation is a bit odd.

Though he could have been sick even before he started fasting.

However the loss of a human life is a tragedy and should be avoided.

2 ( +2 / -0 )

Japan admits very few refugees and asylum seekers, placing a significant burden of proof on those who seek refuge and often detaining migrants for lengthy periods while their cases are processed

Because they have seen what happens to countries that have an "open door" policy.

And I fail to see why Japan has to shoulder the burden of looking after refugees and asylum seekers. Japan is a mountainous island with already cramped living conditions and high prices. Not to mention frequent earthquakes and other natural disasters. Authorities and health care organizations already have their hands full looking after their own people. More refugees will only strain these resources. Why can't these people go to countries that have large living spaces and plenty of resources such as Canada?

2 ( +4 / -2 )

A few others have mentioned this, but the definition of suicide is to essentially kill oneself, regardless of reason. A victim of cyberbullying may commit suicide to show how he was hurt by others - indeed no one has thought of another word for such...some others who incited him are even charged with murder or incitement to suicide. As such, a victim of detention may commit suicide as well, even by hunger strike. Both examples show they are trying to show the world or at least their families and friends the issues.

-3 ( +0 / -3 )

  Why was he locked up for 3 years? Just put him on a plane home

He either refused to leave Japan or his country refused to accept him back.

2 ( +3 / -1 )

That's their choice then let them be.

-1 ( +1 / -2 )

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