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Gov't to have national IDs double as health cards by 2023

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The ultimate goal of the government here is to link ALL OF YOUR DATA to the Orwellian named "My Number", from your financial data, tax data, health data, etc etc etc.

They are currently "encouraging" the rubes to get one, but eventually they will be REQUIRING all of the people to use one.

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The Japanese government has decided to take more steps to ENABLE people to use national identification cards in place of health insurance certificates at almost all hospitals by March 2023.

what's in a word?

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The ultimate goal of the government here is to link ALL OF YOUR DATA to the Orwellian named "My Number", from your financial data, tax data, health data, etc etc etc.

They are currently "encouraging" the rubes to get one, but eventually they will be REQUIRING all of the people to use one.

You are 100% spot on.

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One thing I truly liked about Japan, compared to the country I originally came from, one that has something called an SSN, was the relative privacy one would have here.

Now, I feel like the Japanese version of "big brother" is descending into our lives and we are going to end up in a "Minority Report" police state, one with the same mistakes along the way.

Either that, or a system that is so screwed up that the government decides to trash it after a few years and waste more money on something else.

I'll also bet the latter before the former!

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Great! Another card for my wallet. Driver's License (picture ID) Permanent Registration Card (picture ID) My Number (picture ID) Health Insurance Card (No Picture) Even have a COSTCO card (picture ID)

Don't they have anything better to spend my money on?

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The government also outlined plans to launch a portal website which allows users to log in and review details such as their prescription history online.

We will be getting calls from insurance companies, funeral related businesses from our hawked prescription data.

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Sooo the card will be an insurance card - which currently expires yearly. So does that mean that the my-number card will need to be reissued every year?

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How will they know if you have paid the health insurance premiums if you only have this ID card?

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Sooo the card will be an insurance card - which currently expires yearly. So does that mean that the my-number card will need to be reissued every year?

Your insurance card expires yearly only if you are in the National Health Insurance scheme. If you have Shakai Hoken, or the Social Health (workers) insurance, it does not "expire". I have had the same insurance card now for nearly 10 years!

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An invasion of privacy. No one should be compelled to have a My Number card. Having all your personal info on one card is opening the gate wide to hackers. ID thieves and enabling the government to sell off your personal information to the highest bidder.

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Nothing new.... why do you think they're so keen to give everyone an Annual Health check ?

Having a DNA database of the population is great for solving Crime quickly... Also determining who has diseases and who doesn't etc. And, imagine how much value such a Database is when shared with other Countries or Private Companies ?

Well at least its not as bad as Singapore, but certainly heading there ..

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The universities I work absolutely required the My Number, to my distress. There was no choice about it.

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Other jobs out there than unis eh?

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The Japanese government (and many others) are furiously collecting data, especially on financial assets. Many investors have offshored their assets but are / will require disclosure with penalties. In my opinion, this is just another Orwellian move to get all your data for the government to monitor and monetize your assets. Less tax revenues, more older people = let’s tax everyone more.

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An invasion of privacy. No one should be compelled to have a My Number card. Having all your personal info on one card is opening the gate wide to hackers. ID thieves and enabling the government to sell off your personal information to the highest bidder.

You want to work in Japan, you have to have a "My Number". There is no requirement currently for the card, but the government seems to want to change that!

The universities I work absolutely required the My Number, to my distress. There was no choice about it.

Quite so, there is NO choice, the universities, and any and ALL businesses are required by law to ensure that all their employees have a "my number".

Other jobs out there than unis eh?

And if you are working in a position that did not require you to have a "my number" both you and your "sp-called" employer are breaking the law. It's that simple!

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Our family rejected the "My Number" system when the cards first went out, we have not experienced any issues without the card and no employer has asked for the number.

Based on the article its very clear that the Japanese do not like it and do not want it, and as they follow their feelings over the law, I feel it will continue to be rejected.

One way to prevent the card from being used in the future to replace the Health Insurance card is to refuse it.

When you need to seek health care, pay in full and then produce the receipt to the city office and or the company you work for and they will refund the 70% the health insurance system covers.

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You want to work in Japan, you have to have a "My Number".

Nope. I don't have one

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The universities I work absolutely required the My Number, to my distress. There was no choice about it.

Employers want to know your My Number, but you don't need to apply for the plastic card, which is what the government is trying to force on people. It's sufficient to use the paper version that they sent out to everyone.

For some reason, when sending in my tax return they also want a photocopy of the piece of paper with My Number on it. It's not enough to just write the number on the form. It seems ridiculous to me: they seem incapable of checking that the number I write on the tax return is the correct one, the one they gave me in the first place.

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The government are trying to push the plastic card but they cannot force you to apply for the card, just reject it.

My wife works for a Japanese company and has NEVER been asked for her "My Number", however if she was asked for it she would just explain that she has not accepted it.

The end of year tax forms do contain a box for the "My Number", she just leaves it blank and no one says anything.

I work for myself and only deal with Japanese companies, banks etc and have never been asked for "My Number", but then I do not know what it is as we refused them as a family.

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